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Cat Merc
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Posted - 2013.11.24 21:32:00 -
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SG - Works well, if you're not in a scout
LR - Is an underpowered POS and should not be compared to any other weapon
Mass Driver - Takes little to no aiming, so you are rewarded with lowered performance
AR's, and this is coming straight from CCP, are supposed to be the general purpose bastards that you bring to any engagement you aren't sure what to bring in.
TTK is just too low, way too low.
Stop blaming it on rifles.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
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Posted - 2013.11.24 21:38:00 -
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Beeeees wrote:Every time you say that ScR has no downsides God kills a kitten.
Has one downside, and it's not that bad when you consider how powerful this weapon is.
Even with the downside I would say SCR >= AR (They are almost equal, with the balance tipping slightly for the SCR)
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
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Posted - 2013.11.24 21:55:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Cat Merc wrote:
LR - Is an underpowered POS and should not be compared to any other weapon
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You know nothing John Snow....
Oh yeah it's effective at a very specific range VoV
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
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Posted - 2013.11.24 21:56:00 -
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hackerzilla wrote:Cat Merc wrote:SG - Works well, if you're not in a scout
LR - Is an underpowered POS and should not be compared to any other weapon
Mass Driver - Takes little to no aiming, so you are rewarded with lowered performance
AR's, and this is coming straight from CCP, are supposed to be the general purpose bastards that you bring to any engagement you aren't sure what to bring in.
TTK is just too low, way too low.
Stop blaming it on rifles. What I'm saying is that if there were only "POS" weapons there would be balance because everyone is using a niche gun!
LR is so terrible, literally every weapon beats it, even the PLC.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
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Posted - 2013.11.24 22:04:00 -
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Oswald Rehnquist wrote:Definitely an interesting idea,
You can't do rock, paper, scissors with the auto rifles,
Yes you can.
What beats AR's?
Anything within their range. (I.E shotguns)
It's just that the paper is slightly larger :P
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
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Posted - 2013.11.24 22:05:00 -
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Flix Keptick wrote:I have been thinking of it a lot lately, imagine how much fun the game would be if rifles (save the laser) were nerfed by at least 50% damage. Imagine the diversity we would be seing. God it would be fun.
It would be mass drivers everywhere, as they would have the same DPS but without the aiming 
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
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Posted - 2013.11.24 22:06:00 -
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Flix Keptick wrote:Cat Merc wrote:SG - Works well, if you're not in a scout
LR - Is an underpowered POS and should not be compared to any other weapon
Mass Driver - Takes little to no aiming, so you are rewarded with lowered performance
AR's, and this is coming straight from CCP, are supposed to be the general purpose bastards that you bring to any engagement you aren't sure what to bring in.
TTK is just too low, way too low.
Stop blaming it on rifles. Its only too low with the rifles, a mass driver will never kill you in less than a second.
Because a Mass Driver is area denial, not an easy kill noob tube.
A grenade launcher with 6 shots and a very wide blast radius?
It MUST have low TTK to balance for it's ease of use.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
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Posted - 2013.11.24 22:07:00 -
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Let me just leave this here:
Bandwagon:
"You appealed to popularity or the fact that many people do something as an attempted form of validation.
The flaw in this argument is that the popularity of an idea has absolutely no bearing on its validity.
If it did, then the Earth would have made itself flat for most of history to accommodate this popular belief."
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
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Posted - 2013.11.24 22:23:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Oswald Rehnquist wrote:Definitely an interesting idea,
You can't do rock, paper, scissors with the auto rifles, Yes you can. What beats AR's? Anything within their range. (I.E shotguns) It's just that the paper is slightly larger :P Really? You really think the niche weapons are balanced in comparison to the rifles? When they are pulling over 300 dps? When you can fire 20 rounds without any recoil, when every shot has a natural grouping less than a fifty pence piece, when you have a mag that will take down 3 people before reloading, takes no skill to hip fire. Need I go on?
What niche weapons?
Laser rifle is terrible as I said and needs a buff.
Shotgun works well as I said. (Yes it's deadly as ****, just not in the hands of a scout)
Sniper rifles are easy point and shoot from 90292 meters away at an enemy that can't retaliate.
What else?
Do you see my point?
There aren't any niche weapons to speak of.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
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Posted - 2013.11.24 23:01:00 -
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hackerzilla wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Flix Keptick wrote:Cat Merc wrote:SG - Works well, if you're not in a scout
LR - Is an underpowered POS and should not be compared to any other weapon
Mass Driver - Takes little to no aiming, so you are rewarded with lowered performance
AR's, and this is coming straight from CCP, are supposed to be the general purpose bastards that you bring to any engagement you aren't sure what to bring in.
TTK is just too low, way too low.
Stop blaming it on rifles. Its only too low with the rifles, a mass driver will never kill you in less than a second. The difference being that the mass driver round has a 14 metre wide blast zone. 7.2 is the max radius for the proto assault MD than on does like 70 damage splash. Pretty useless, except with fluxs, and even then it isn't close to the militia ARs dps...
7.2 from the blast point.
It's 14.4 meters wide across.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
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3992
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Posted - 2013.11.24 23:03:00 -
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Shotty GoBang wrote:Cat Merc wrote:
TTK is just too low, way too low.
Stop blaming it on rifles.
Which primary kills faster up-close than an AR or ScR? Which primary kills faster at-range than an AR or ScR? Which primary kills faster from the hip than an AR or ScR? Which primary kills faster when ADS than an AR or ScR? Which primary has benefited more from AA than the AR or ScR? 1) TTK is too low. 2) The AR and ScR are almost entirely to blame. 3) Soon, we'll have two more OP Rifles to complain about. Have a look around. Which primary weapons are people using? The smart merc prefers the all-powerful, all-purpose Rifle.
Which primary kills faster up-close than an AR or ScR? - Shotty
Which primary kills faster at-range than an AR or ScR? - Sniper
Which primary kills faster from the hip than an AR or ScR? - Shotty.
Which primary kills faster when ADS than an AR or ScR? - How many weapons NEED to be ADS?
Which primary has benefited more from AA than the AR or ScR? - Lazors.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
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4052
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Posted - 2013.11.26 16:07:00 -
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hackerzilla wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Shotty GoBang wrote:Cat Merc wrote:
TTK is just too low, way too low.
Stop blaming it on rifles.
Which primary kills faster up-close than an AR or ScR? Which primary kills faster at-range than an AR or ScR? Which primary kills faster from the hip than an AR or ScR? Which primary kills faster when ADS than an AR or ScR? Which primary has benefited more from AA than the AR or ScR? 1) TTK is too low. 2) The AR and ScR are almost entirely to blame. 3) Soon, we'll have two more OP Rifles to complain about. Have a look around. Which primary weapons are people using? The smart merc prefers the all-powerful, all-purpose Rifle. Which primary kills faster up-close than an AR or ScR? - Shotty Which primary kills faster at-range than an AR or ScR? - Sniper Which primary kills faster from the hip than an AR or ScR? - Shotty. Which primary kills faster when ADS than an AR or ScR? - How many weapons NEED to be ADS? Which primary has benefited more from AA than the AR or ScR? - Lazors. Ok, this is a troll. At first you say the laser is a piece of ****, then you say it benefits the most from AA (which is too high, signifying that it is indeed a good gun, if it even did benefit the most from AA). You also say a sniper has a faster TTK than a ScR and AR a range. Maybe at extreme range, but thats not even an argument because thats out of the rifles' range. You also say the shotty has a faster TTK at close range and at the hip. This is laughable, because it takes skill to use a shotty, which many rifle advocates lack...
Uhh...
No.
The laser rifle benefitted hugely from the AA, but it's not enough.
Just like the addition of the red dot benefitted hugely the laser, but it's not enough.
AR's do 30% damage at 70 meters, and then it drops even faster.
Snipers have more DPS at that point.
It takes as much skill to use a shotty as it takes to get in close and personal.
If you manage to do that, it's as easy as aiming, which rifles require too.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
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Posted - 2013.11.26 16:08:00 -
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Beeeees wrote:Cat Merc wrote:
Even with the downside I would say SCR >= AR (They are almost equal, with the balance tipping slightly for the SCR)
This is bullsh!t and you know it.
Do I?
Because I have both at proficiency IV and it's my favorite gun
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
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