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Cody Sietz
Unkn0wn Killers
Renegade Alliance
1545
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Posted - 2013.11.24 15:12:00 -
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Just wondering.
I support partial SP reallocation when new content is released.
I also not need to reallocate my SP since I only spec Gallente. |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
7946
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Posted - 2013.11.24 15:16:00 -
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I'd wait until 1.7 to make sure they aren't already in there, considering they've already teased us with their skills in the skill tree.
I can't imagine them and racial dropsuits taking any longer than 1.8
You'd think they'd want to release them with the vehicle changes and respec, and the removal of 10 vehicle assets might provide the room needed to add in the new vehicles. That's all wild speculation though, best to assume they'll be released in late 2076.
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Kasote Denzara
A Vulture
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Posted - 2013.11.24 15:18:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:I'd wait until 1.7 to make sure they aren't already in there, considering they've already teased us with their skills in the skill tree.
Proof of this are the pilot suits. Not that they would affect me specifically, but it's a good example. Hell, the slot of them is even there in the assets and market.
"I am a mercenary, I do as I need. I'll shed Amarrian blood for the freedom of my Minmitar allies but only for a price."
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pyramidhead 420
Carbon 7
CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.11.24 15:21:00 -
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you see all these punk A$$ little crybabies, this time around? you think another respec is coming? |
Infamous Erich
Inf4m0us
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Posted - 2013.11.24 15:24:00 -
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When you spec into ADS in 1.7 you will be able to try all type of racial dropships so skillpoint respec when they release would be useless. I'll see you guys in my python in 1.7 stuck in my incubus right now but its not that bad
Closed Beta Vet
Shield Tank Vet
Bring back my Sagaris
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R F Gyro
Clones 4u
662
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Posted - 2013.11.24 15:28:00 -
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There is no precedent for a respec (even a partial one) when adding new stuff: CCP generally give respecs or SP refunds when they remove things, or when they change things to be radically different from how they were previously.
RF Gyro: 12.5% damage bonus; 10.5% rate of fire bonus
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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
7947
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Posted - 2013.11.24 15:30:00 -
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Infamous Erich wrote:When you spec into ADS in 1.7 you will be able to try all type of racial dropships so skillpoint respec when they release would be useless. I'll see you guys in my python in 1.7 stuck in my incubus right now but its not that bad
That's actually an excellent point that I had forgotten about, the same can be said of dropsuits if they decide to follow that trend, which would be pretty cool. That would help avoid another respec, though new suits really do dictate how you spend your SP because you can only fit it in so many ways that play to its strengths.
I just want my Gallente Heavy, I've only been waiting since the day I started playing this game (May 25, 2012)
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Cody Sietz
Unkn0wn Killers
Renegade Alliance
1545
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Posted - 2013.11.24 16:07:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Infamous Erich wrote:When you spec into ADS in 1.7 you will be able to try all type of racial dropships so skillpoint respec when they release would be useless. I'll see you guys in my python in 1.7 stuck in my incubus right now but its not that bad That's actually an excellent point that I had forgotten about, the same can be said of dropsuits if they decide to follow that trend, which would be pretty cool. That would help avoid another respec, though new suits really do dictate how you spend your SP because you can only fit it in so many ways that play to its strengths. I just want my Gallente Heavy, I've only been waiting since the day I started playing this game (May 25, 2012) You, me and my buddy Dante.
I didn't know about the system for vehicles, maybe this is CCPs way of avoiding a potential problem in the future.
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Roger Cordill
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.11.24 16:09:00 -
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R F Gyro wrote:There is no precedent for a respec (even a partial one) when adding new stuff: CCP generally give respecs or SP refunds when they remove things, or when they change things to be radically different from how they were previously.
Message from Godin: Bullshit. 1.0 is proof of that. |
Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders
1925
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Posted - 2013.11.24 16:11:00 -
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Dropsuits are being looked at starting in 1.8. Maybe we should have a respec then too? Maybe we should just respec every patch since there is no end to the changes.
// Logistics / Scout / Dropship Pilot Trainee // https://twitter.com/reesnoturana
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Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star.
EoN.
1773
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Posted - 2013.11.24 16:14:00 -
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TBH if and when they add new things no i dont think a SP respec is needed as such because the vehicle tree is not being turned upside down for the new things
But i can understand if you are in a gallente tank and want a minnie tank for example |
Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders
1925
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Posted - 2013.11.24 16:24:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:TBH if and when they add new things no i dont think a SP respec is needed as such because the vehicle tree is not being turned upside down for the new things
But i can understand if you are in a gallente tank and want a minnie tank for example
This is the exact situation where a respec is not needed. Your core vehicle skills will transfer over and unlocking the new tank will be trivial. In the end you'll have two tanks in your arsenal to be able to adapt to the current battle and changing trends. Only those that believe you need that last level 5 skill to get another 2% bonus will complain about training times.
Eventually real tankers will train all racial models.
// Logistics / Scout / Dropship Pilot Trainee // https://twitter.com/reesnoturana
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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
7949
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Posted - 2013.11.24 16:26:00 -
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Reav Hannari wrote:Eventually real tankers will train all racial models.
Caldari tech
Ew
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Cody Sietz
Unkn0wn Killers
Renegade Alliance
1545
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Posted - 2013.11.24 16:29:00 -
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Reav Hannari wrote:Dropsuits are being looked at starting in 1.8. Maybe we should have a respec then too? Maybe we should just respec every patch since there is no end to the changes.
I just mean once they release all the content for certain classes and vehicles. |
Benjamin Ciscko
The Generals
EoN.
231
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Posted - 2013.11.24 16:36:00 -
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R F Gyro wrote:There is no precedent for a respec (even a partial one) when adding new stuff: CCP generally give respecs or SP refunds when they remove things, or when they change things to be radically different from how they were previously.
? So if I want say the Amarr tank I should wait 5 months or more holding onto millions of SP and not be able to have fun tanking in the mean time.
Vehicle rework scheduled for 1.5.... 1.6.... 1.7........
Tanker/Logi
Wait until AV feels the pain vehicle users have
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Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders
1925
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Posted - 2013.11.24 16:38:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:Reav Hannari wrote:Dropsuits are being looked at starting in 1.8. Maybe we should have a respec then too? Maybe we should just respec every patch since there is no end to the changes. I just mean once they release all the content for certain classes and vehicles.
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1528338#post1528338
// Logistics / Scout / Dropship Pilot Trainee // https://twitter.com/reesnoturana
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Benjamin Ciscko
The Generals
EoN.
231
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Posted - 2013.11.24 16:39:00 -
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Reav Hannari wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:TBH if and when they add new things no i dont think a SP respec is needed as such because the vehicle tree is not being turned upside down for the new things
But i can understand if you are in a gallente tank and want a minnie tank for example This is the exact situation where a respec is not needed. Your core vehicle skills will transfer over and unlocking the new tank will be trivial. In the end you'll have two tanks in your arsenal to be able to adapt to the current battle and changing trends. Only those that believe you need that last level 5 skill to get another 2% bonus will complain about training times. Eventually real tankers will train all racial models.
I got a tank down to 15 hit points had he neglected to up his armor skill an extra 2% he would have died in PC and in general against experienced tankers 2% makes all the difference in the world.
Vehicle rework scheduled for 1.5.... 1.6.... 1.7........
Tanker/Logi
Wait until AV feels the pain vehicle users have
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Cody Sietz
Unkn0wn Killers
Renegade Alliance
1545
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Posted - 2013.11.24 16:44:00 -
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Reav Hannari wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:Reav Hannari wrote:Dropsuits are being looked at starting in 1.8. Maybe we should have a respec then too? Maybe we should just respec every patch since there is no end to the changes. I just mean once they release all the content for certain classes and vehicles. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1528338#post1528338See my post there. Takes too much time to explain while typing on an iPad. Weapons are one thing, I support being able to move your SP from to another version but ultimately it will only take you a extra week or 2 to get them. Plus I don't think we should get our SP back if they introduce a new type of weapon or something.
It seems they are making it easier to train vehicles and not have to lock into a specific race(at least that's how it looks)
Dropsuits on the other hand, should have SP refunded once they get the different racial models for heavy and scout only. Not for when pilot or commander suit is released. |
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