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Mordecai Sanguine
What The French
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Posted - 2013.11.24 12:47:00 -
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xSir Campsalotx wrote:Agreed but your scrabler rifle can have upwards of 1200dps and duvolle barely breaks 600 i think it should have a advantage but does it really have to be twice as deadly. I run HMG so they beat me either way.
37.5 duvolle x 1.15 (15%) prof times the 2 damage mods at 1.18 for both (18%) x 12.5 rof =636 dps a common setup i see run
78.5 imperial x 1.15 (15%) prof times the 2 damage mods at 1.18 for both (18%) x 11.7 rof= 1246 dps a common setup i see run (the dps on this weapon is similar to that of the prenerfed duvolle tac)
as you can see your 1 vs 1 advantage is insane
This is stupid.
Your duvolle is fully automatic wity no recoil.
SCR is semi auto and has a huge Heat factor you can't fire as you wish.
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Mordecai Sanguine
What The French
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Posted - 2013.11.24 16:58:00 -
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Sylwester Dziewiecki wrote:WoW, - 910 of total HP(pretty much like heavy, but without immobility), - 4 different equipment items: a) that heal you, b) resupply you, c) give you advantage over enemy by knowing where he is hiding(pretty much like scout, but without just 200HP and 1e-slot), d) to all of this Nanite Injector so you can pick up friendly, and you know where heat of battle is. - Like to all this you would still need some grenades. Proto weapon is not primary problem here, logistic suit is, it's covers way too many roles. 
STOP SAYIN SHHHHIIIT...... 
FIRST : Heavies with same level than an Logi with 910ehp have 1500-2000 hp if he want.
Secondly : He have Imperial SCR and lot of life because he have ****** equipements.
Seriously i'm tired of people like you "Logistics is bad blah blah blah" Real Logi using it as intended are balanced it's not our fault if YOU noob assaults has come in logistics suits to not use it as intended.
When fitting good equipements we can't make a good combat suits.
So we are not overpowered.
Exemple : My Amarr Logi suit. (The suit intended as a Combat Logi he's supposed to be the most powerful logi in combat)
89 PG.
Fit equipement :
Nanohive (Don't remember the name but takes 11/12PG.)
Drop uplinks : 11PG
Triage BDR-8 : 8 PG
30PG used for equipement. (And i didn't unlock my Proto repair tools)
59 PG left and i'm supposed to be the most powerful Logi suit ? HA!
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Mordecai Sanguine
What The French
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Posted - 2013.11.24 16:59:00 -
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Zaria Min Deir wrote:LittleCuteBunny wrote:CCP just needs to fix the overheat bypass This. The point that the ScR has it's drawback of (supposedly) not being able to kill multiple enemies because of the overheat is lovely in theory, but when the overheat is so easy to ignore... 
Are you kidding me ? Without Amarr assault suits it overheat in less than 8-9 shots......
Making you cannot run or do anything during 3sec (makes you die...) |
Mordecai Sanguine
What The French
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Posted - 2013.11.24 20:54:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Mordecai Sanguine wrote:Zaria Min Deir wrote:LittleCuteBunny wrote:CCP just needs to fix the overheat bypass This. The point that the ScR has it's drawback of (supposedly) not being able to kill multiple enemies because of the overheat is lovely in theory, but when the overheat is so easy to ignore... Are you kidding me ? Without Amarr assault suits it overheat in less than 8-9 shots...... Making you cannot run or do anything during 3sec (makes you die...) 8-9 shots? Without Amarr Assault - 18 With Amarr Assault - 24
I'm using it and if you spam the trigger it overheats before 18 shots.
If you shoot normally it cooldown a little between 2 shots.
So in fact the theorical DPS is no sense.
Anyway YES ScR must be nerfed.
But AR too.
AR must be nerf on range (and/Or accuracy) because it's supposed to be the lowest range Rifle in the game in fact because of his high RoF and Accuracy he can still be the best weapon far beyond his range.
ScR should lose some RoF and not be a "Shoot as fast as i use the trigger" ScR range and Damage is fine it's supposed to be the DMR of Dust. |
Mordecai Sanguine
What The French
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Posted - 2013.11.24 21:04:00 -
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Doc Noah wrote:I believe SCR is getting a range buff in 1.7 and TAR is getting a range nerf. TAR will be worse in every aspect.
You need to understand than ScR is the Racial specialist of TAR.
So YES it's NORMAL than he's way more powerful than TAR with better range.
And TAR is using plasma which is a Low range ammo. (But don't overheat)
While Laser is a long range ammo with same damage. (But Overheat)
But i'll also agree than AscR should be less effective than Duvolle.
In reality ScR is way less powerful than Assualt rifles.
Since armor values everybody got a huge amount of armor.
And Laser receive a 20% drawback on armor while Assault rifles drawback is only 10%.
So in fact Most of the time ScR is 20% less effective and Assault rifles Only 10%.
Assault rifles are more versatile.
While ScR is really good gainst Shield (But shield actually is low) but sucks against Armor (Which is 80% of eHP)
What the point about being great on something that sucks ?
That is the bigger advantages of AR against ScR.
I'm a ScR user.
Have you already tried to kill an heavy with 1000Hp ONLY on Armor ????
Impossible without overheat like 3/4 time......
With assault rifle (Militia) i melted this heavy with no problem in less than a MAG without stop firing. (Yes sometime i'm using the basic suit who cost nothing.) |
Mordecai Sanguine
What The French
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Posted - 2013.11.25 07:43:00 -
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Atiim wrote:How long do you think it will take CCP to patch the overheat exploit?
Now before you answer, remember how long it took to patch the Melee glitch.
I didn't know thereas a glitch.
So that's ******* weird !!!!
The weapon is Op because of a glitch so you ask a general Nerf ? what the hell ?
Why i should be nerf if that's because of a glitch i don't use huh ??
Fix the nerf reduce the RoF and it will be balanced i'm sure. |
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