how are they bad for the economy?

they are mlt and std.... all those proto stompers sure aren't using them

PC makes billions with broken mechanics, why didn't they remove PC?

even people who use bpo's need to buy gear, I spend about 30 mil a week...

they only don't function anymore because ccp chose to make them not function... they could have done it differently or at least be straight about it and give fair compensation...

so logibro lied?

I don't think you understand that ccp chose to make them useless... why?
also I'm ok with the removal if it really improves the game... time will tell... if it doesn't than they were all the more wrong for taking them from us.

if they are right, great! but I still deserve an item of equal value. either a permant useful item like maybe a bpo of the new module, or a psn credit or a mark up in aur as great as the mark up those who paid 50 aur are getting.....

I buy a lot of stuff:) I get my suits by the 100s bpo's don't win matches so no risk low isk... the risk vs isk thing working as intended and all vehicle users have to buy vehicles to use those mods... which they don't competitively...

what about the people who paid 50 aur.... they are getting 4800 too... why do they get to make a profit and I don't?

favoritism?

lol... so you admit your bpo tank isn't competitive, you admit you are making profit on this deal... of course your not upset.

your biased and making out like a bandit....

lol now you also admit you don't use aur proving my point that its worthless.

get out of your own head and only worrying about what you want.... I want us all to be treated fairly... I don't even use these modules but I did buy them andthat should be respected... not with worthless aur.

I also want a risk game and a reason to log on... but I also want my purchase to be honored.

nobody cares about 4 insignificant modules. fair enough. but what about lav bpo's, suit bpo's and every other bpo that people use to augment their fits. people definitely care about these modules because there was massive uproar about their removal after eve vegas.

the whole reason ccp came out with the statement was to calm the community. we all relaxed as soon as the statement came out and continued our daily carnage meanwhile ccp goes ahead and plans for their removal while we are all preoccupied with events and a false sense of security.

it may have started with a few insignificant items but now ccp have grounds to remove all bpos. we buy them from packs, off the market get given them as gifts but as ccp have now proven they will remove them from our inventory without warning. nothing is safe anymore. bpo's, that so called safe investment costing significant amounts of money are now far from it. people have potentially wasted hundreds on something that ccp can delete at will and then refund us with aurum we didn't want in the first place.

the problem here is not the removal of bpo's so much as the deceitful way ccp has gone about doing it. the statement is irrefutable no matter what you say."will not remove inventory" yet they did it a few weeks later. all changes to dust are set in motion months before we get the patch notes. this means the statement given was after they had already made the decision to remove bpos yet they still said they would not.

-bpo is a permanent item yet apparently not anymore
-will not remove bpo's from inventory yet they are doing so anyway
-we are removing bpo's from the market so buy them now while you can, oh but we are going to delete them in a few weeks
-bpo's are a problem so we are trying to get rid of new sources yet they still release them in in collectors editions etc and encourage people to buy them.

i can't believe people don't see this worrying trend of ccp lying to us and not just about bpo's

please just stop. stop replying when you blatantly don't have the slightest clue about what the issues are.

Wow.....stupidly irrelevant & misused IRL Comparison is bad, & you should feel bad about it. IDGAF about the situation @ hand , but.....you look like an ignoramus IWS Alt Kool-Aid sipping Duncecap for posting this...... Don't be an IWS bro

Your argument is terrible & falls flat in every way......& as a Vehicle User you should be most ashamed. Deleting BPOs for Vehicles sets a Precedent..... This tells CCP if you simply change the Stat of.....let's say Shield Extender to have a Profile Penalty, or Assault Rifle is Name Changed to Blaster Rifle, & you have no Toxin/Recruiter/Exile/Dren Blaster Rifle, it goes to "The Void". & you invalidate everything you said by essentially defending the existence of Infantry BPOs & Starter Fits.

Debates.....you're doing it wrong

my god man you are dumb....

No, some people are just stubborn :) I disagree with your argument and I think you're wrong, that doesn't make me dumb, it doesn't make you dumb.

Against Tanks? Sure, my 250k ANTI INFANTRY TANK is not very good against another Tank which is quite well equipped to deal with other Tanks, go figure. And mate, I don't even use Aurum so I don't give a damn, I wouldn't care if they gave me the 30 Aurum back. If CCP could find a way to see who bought their modules at a certain price, sure go for it.

I'm not biased, more I want a risk game, I want a reason to log on and I want a reason to not want to die other than my KDR.

Edit: lol, you spent 500$ on a free game? LOL. Oh and 10 months, good job, wooh, so what?

so logibro lied?

I don't think you understand that ccp chose to make them useless... why?
also I'm ok with the removal if it really improves the game... time will tell... if it doesn't than they were all the more wrong for taking them from us.

if they are right, great! but I still deserve an item of equal value. either a permant useful item like maybe a bpo of the new module, or a psn credit or a mark up in aur as great as the mark up those who paid 50 aur are getting.....

Right, well we started out arguing about CCP doing a 180 on their BPO "policy", in which CCP Logibro stated that they weren't going to remove BPOs - https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=116404

Hey all,

We just wanted to clarify statements made about the removal of BPOs.

We are in the process of removing BPOs from the market. We have already removed them from the in game market, and we will eventually be removing them from packs available on the PSN Store. We are not removing any existing BPOs from any player inventories and there are no plans to do so. BPOs are currently not functioning as intended so we are looking at the way they work in game.

Again, we would like to reiterate that they will not be removed from any inventories

Now, one must assume that the OP thought that the 180 was due to the fact that when 1.7 is released it will be removing four BPOs - https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1513116

4800 AUR Militia 180mm Reinforced Steel Plates Blueprint
4800 AUR Militia Shield Regenerator Blueprint
4800 AUR Militia Shield Resistance Amplifier
4800 AUR Militia Power Diagnostic System Blueprint

The OP would go on to complain that it was unfair that he was only being refunded the Aurum, he wanted either his money back for the aurum he spent, or an item of "equivalent value" (Which rereading that has just made me realize CCP should give the OP four Exile Rifle BPOs, right?)

The gist of nearly every reply from the OP was about how it was unfair to be removing these four BPOs and that getting only Aurum for it back was an outrage, not only this he had a bone to pick with the Vets who purchased the BPOs at 30 Aurum. He also says something about CCP lying, when they clearly have not, they've removed four BPOs that don't fit into the system anymore and given you a refund.

Your post mentioned several things, such as how CCP has the grounds to remove all BPOs, which has actually always been the case, if CCP wanted to remove all the BPOs they could just do it, there is no physical force stopping them and it's well within their rights to do so and just give you an aurum refund (read terms and ****), but they've approached it from a different way, rather than remove every BPO in the game, they'll remove the ones that don't fit with the game (see vehicle modules for details) and let you keep the ones that won't be changed.

You then go on to say how CCP are deceitful, which I argued you were wrong about, because there is nothing from CCP about being deceitful;

noun
[mass noun]
the action or practice of deceiving someone by concealing or misrepresenting the truth:
a web of deceit
hypocrisy and deceit were anathema to her
[count noun]:
a series of lies and deceits

CCP didn't hide the truth, they haven't made a series of posts lying about it nor have they mislead us in anyway about BPOs so again I disagree with your idea they were deceitful.

Alright, TBBT time, soz guy, but yeah, I get your argument, I don't much care for your side of it nor do I agree with any of the points any of you have made at all, and Luca, refer to earlier post, kthx.

the problem is this is likely just the start of things to come. and if we let ccp off lightly then we will suffer later down the line. insignificant modules now and more important ones later. letting them off with a simple refund is not enough to let them get away with it

why cant they. if its an ingame item they can change anything they want. if they removed assault rifles from the game what would happen to bpo's based on them. this is the issue here. no matter the compensation ccp gives the fact remains all bpos are based on ingame isk items and removing any of these items would force a removal of the bpos they are based on. a simple compensation is not acceptable because some of these items have no aurum value. also some items in packs were also available on the market at some point.

i believe the toxin's were available on the market at 1 point. now that item has a aur value so they can remove it. lets say they had a pack only version of a toxin. while it is not a aur item in the pack there is /was an item exactly the same on the market at some point that did and nothing is stopping ccp from basing the value on that item and then removing it.

dren logistics - pack item
sever logistics - same item just different name but market bought

now ccp has a comparison aur value to compensate you for it and snatch the suit from you