DUST Search - CCP please explain the 180

Jason Pearson wrote:

ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:

Jason Pearson wrote:

xLuca Brasi wrote:

only because we have given you all the arguments but you fail to see our logic. and we are tired of telling the same 3 people the same thing. some people are just dumb....

No, some people are just stubborn :) I disagree with your argument and I think you're wrong, that doesn't make me dumb, it doesn't make you dumb.

how can you possibly disagree with our argument when you don't have the slightest clue what we are going on about about.

Right, well we started out arguing about CCP doing a 180 on their BPO "policy", in which CCP Logibro stated that they weren't going to remove BPOs - https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=116404

Hey all,

We just wanted to clarify statements made about the removal of BPOs.

We are in the process of removing BPOs from the market. We have already removed them from the in game market, and we will eventually be removing them from packs available on the PSN Store. We are not removing any existing BPOs from any player inventories and there are no plans to do so. BPOs are currently not functioning as intended so we are looking at the way they work in game.

Again, we would like to reiterate that they will not be removed from any inventories

Now, one must assume that the OP thought that the 180 was due to the fact that when 1.7 is released it will be removing four BPOs - https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1513116

4800 AUR Militia 180mm Reinforced Steel Plates Blueprint
4800 AUR Militia Shield Regenerator Blueprint
4800 AUR Militia Shield Resistance Amplifier
4800 AUR Militia Power Diagnostic System Blueprint

The OP would go on to complain that it was unfair that he was only being refunded the Aurum, he wanted either his money back for the aurum he spent, or an item of "equivalent value" (Which rereading that has just made me realize CCP should give the OP four Exile Rifle BPOs, right?)

The gist of nearly every reply from the OP was about how it was unfair to be removing these four BPOs and that getting only Aurum for it back was an outrage, not only this he had a bone to pick with the Vets who purchased the BPOs at 30 Aurum. He also says something about CCP lying, when they clearly have not, they've removed four BPOs that don't fit into the system anymore and given you a refund.

Your post mentioned several things, such as how CCP has the grounds to remove all BPOs, which has actually always been the case, if CCP wanted to remove all the BPOs they could just do it, there is no physical force stopping them and it's well within their rights to do so and just give you an aurum refund (read terms and ****), but they've approached it from a different way, rather than remove every BPO in the game, they'll remove the ones that don't fit with the game (see vehicle modules for details) and let you keep the ones that won't be changed.

You then go on to say how CCP are deceitful, which I argued you were wrong about, because there is nothing from CCP about being deceitful;

noun
[mass noun]
the action or practice of deceiving someone by concealing or misrepresenting the truth:
a web of deceit
hypocrisy and deceit were anathema to her
[count noun]:
a series of lies and deceits

CCP didn't hide the truth, they haven't made a series of posts lying about it nor have they mislead us in anyway about BPOs so again I disagree with your idea they were deceitful.

Alright, TBBT time, soz guy, but yeah, I get your argument, I don't much care for your side of it nor do I agree with any of the points any of you have made at all, and Luca, refer to earlier post, kthx.


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Pvt Numnutz Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State 298	Posted - 2013.11.24 11:44:00 - [1] - Quote xLuca Brasi wrote: so logibro lied? I don't think you understand that ccp chose to make them useless... why? also I'm ok with the removal if it really improves the game... time will tell... if it doesn't than they were all the more wrong for taking them from us. if they are right, great! but I still deserve an item of equal value. either a permant useful item like maybe a bpo of the new module, or a psn credit or a mark up in aur as great as the mark up those who paid 50 aur are getting..... Oh so now your okay with it.....whatever stops you posting this crap. Now we just have to get you to stop being so self entitled, though I won't hold my breath on that one.
Pvt Numnutz Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State 300	Posted - 2013.11.24 19:46:00 - [2] - Quote Jason Pearson wrote: ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: Jason Pearson wrote: xLuca Brasi wrote: only because we have given you all the arguments but you fail to see our logic. and we are tired of telling the same 3 people the same thing. some people are just dumb.... No, some people are just stubborn :) I disagree with your argument and I think you're wrong, that doesn't make me dumb, it doesn't make you dumb. how can you possibly disagree with our argument when you don't have the slightest clue what we are going on about about. Right, well we started out arguing about CCP doing a 180 on their BPO "policy", in which CCP Logibro stated that they weren't going to remove BPOs - https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=116404 Hey all, We just wanted to clarify statements made about the removal of BPOs. We are in the process of removing BPOs from the market. We have already removed them from the in game market, and we will eventually be removing them from packs available on the PSN Store. We are not removing any existing BPOs from any player inventories and there are no plans to do so. BPOs are currently not functioning as intended so we are looking at the way they work in game. Again, we would like to reiterate that they will not be removed from any inventories Now, one must assume that the OP thought that the 180 was due to the fact that when 1.7 is released it will be removing four BPOs - https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1513116 4800 AUR Militia 180mm Reinforced Steel Plates Blueprint 4800 AUR Militia Shield Regenerator Blueprint 4800 AUR Militia Shield Resistance Amplifier 4800 AUR Militia Power Diagnostic System Blueprint The OP would go on to complain that it was unfair that he was only being refunded the Aurum, he wanted either his money back for the aurum he spent, or an item of "equivalent value" (Which rereading that has just made me realize CCP should give the OP four Exile Rifle BPOs, right?) The gist of nearly every reply from the OP was about how it was unfair to be removing these four BPOs and that getting only Aurum for it back was an outrage, not only this he had a bone to pick with the Vets who purchased the BPOs at 30 Aurum. He also says something about CCP lying, when they clearly have not, they've removed four BPOs that don't fit into the system anymore and given you a refund. Your post mentioned several things, such as how CCP has the grounds to remove all BPOs, which has actually always been the case, if CCP wanted to remove all the BPOs they could just do it, there is no physical force stopping them and it's well within their rights to do so and just give you an aurum refund (read terms and ****), but they've approached it from a different way, rather than remove every BPO in the game, they'll remove the ones that don't fit with the game (see vehicle modules for details) and let you keep the ones that won't be changed. You then go on to say how CCP are deceitful, which I argued you were wrong about, because there is nothing from CCP about being deceitful; noun [mass noun] the action or practice of deceiving someone by concealing or misrepresenting the truth: a web of deceit hypocrisy and deceit were anathema to her [count noun]: a series of lies and deceits CCP didn't hide the truth, they haven't made a series of posts lying about it nor have they mislead us in anyway about BPOs so again I disagree with your idea they were deceitful. Alright, TBBT time, soz guy, but yeah, I get your argument, I don't much care for your side of it nor do I agree with any of the points any of you have made at all, and Luca, refer to earlier post, kthx. Good points. The op just feels butthurt about it. Even though we all know its fair he feels entitled to ask for more....yes I believe in a post I made on the subject he stated that his time wasn't free. Oh my yes, you must pay for the pleasure of this fools time. He also stated the issues weren't just about bpos, its more about how he feels betrayed because logibro lied! Which of course he didn't, they have been shown this many times yet they cannot seem to hear with their heads so far up their own asses. Logic fails these crusaders.