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Aeon Amadi A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. Renegade Alliance 3897	Posted - 2013.11.24 05:18:00 - [1] - Quote So, as an introduction I'd like to say that my opinions and words (in this case) do not represent my corporation or alliance - rather, they are my own. To reinforce this I have resigned from my role as the corporation's diplomat. That being said I have to begin by saying that I am very disappointed that things progressed the way they did and I am sympathetic - even apologetic - toward those other corporations who got roped into all of this by circumstance. This particular grievance was silly and started over a mis-communication, escalating beyond necessary proportions despite my best attempts to quell the fire before it got too large; which I feel that I did so very stalwartly. Now, I'd like to get to the core of why I am posting. First of all, I am deeply disgusted with the gross abuse of diplomatic negotiations to betray my trust as I had done everything in my power to create a co-operative, cohesive atmosphere with which ANONYMOUS and The Southern Legion could make amends and repair what damage had been created from past grievances. I was told to reduce (or cease all together) the hostilities against The Umbra Combine for one week and we would open negotiations in regards to districts - of which we only wanted one and were willing to compensate accordingly. At which point, rather than meeting with me a week after I had made due on my end, The Southern Legion launched a full scale attack on all of our districts - essentially declaring war amidst talks of peace. This struck me to a degree and I felt as though it was unwarranted as I had spoken with earnest and sincerity during all of the peace talks as I genuinely did not wish to go to war over something trivial, hallmarking on the fact that ANONYMOUS only attacks out of defense (which up until lately was true). That being said we have been at war (officially) for several days and with the results of those battles I have but one question: What the **** is the point of all of this? Honest to god there isn't enough damage being done to our clone reserves to make any sizable impact, resulting not only in our troops being paid for a victory but completely recovering from the losses. Issuing out clone packs repeatedly, with which re-attacks occur as soon as the battle is over, is doing nothing more than costing The Southern Legion ISK and considering the diminutive size of your territories I can only assume that you have enough to continue this facade for a short time. What's worse is that you have dragged other corporations to your flock in an effort to press the attacks on our American timers which go well into your downtime, there are too many disadvantages on your end for this to continue and while I understand paying mercenaries or appealing for foreign aid the only thing that has accomplished is destroying otherwise good standings across the board with everyone involved. As I am genuinely concerned, I implore that you cease the hostilities, as I had before, before you bankrupt yourselves. This is a war that will continue until one side or the other cannot continue and suffice to say, you're not doing yourselves any favors by paying us for your assaults. I Support SP Rollover ^_^
Derrith Erador Pradox One Proficiency V. 448	Posted - 2013.11.24 06:44:00 - [2] - Quote This has nothing to do with anything, but it must be done. I love kittens with mittens
Wako 75 SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 96	Posted - 2013.11.24 06:52:00 - [3] - Quote Derrith Erador wrote: This has nothing to do with anything, but it must be done. It has everything to do with everything For Riches, For Honor, For The Brotherhood STB 4 Life Dust Will Survive!!!
Scrote Schroder The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 71	Posted - 2013.11.24 08:47:00 - [4] - Quote I have never seen this video. But it was amazing. Need more music vids like this one. +1 2IC The Southern Legion www.tsole.co \| [email protected]
Cenex Langly D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 414	Posted - 2013.11.24 10:18:00 - [5] - Quote Don't feel bad. I'm almost certain it started with The Southern Legion guys. They have a couple of their leadership with the temper of a menstruating teenage girl. Next time you and your diplomats need to recognize such hostile players and ignore their rage mails. With that said, their leadership is as competent in the dealings of war as a cat is to landing on its back. (That was for the kittens comment above). All the same, may your victory drain them dry. I'm glad we were able to help on one front, whether you were aware of it or not. Director (Management) D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
Dengru Fatal Absolution 159	Posted - 2013.11.24 10:24:00 - [6] - Quote Are dark legion and anon in a forum warrior alliance?
Arirana Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 278	Posted - 2013.11.24 10:31:00 - [7] - Quote War is war, they wanted it they got it. If peace between anon and TSL matters that much to you Aeon then crush them utterly, and offer to restart peacetalks. AAAATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATA~ WOOOAAATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATA
Kaughst 0uter.Heaven Proficiency V. 42	Posted - 2013.11.24 11:09:00 - [8] - Quote Arirana wrote: War is war, they wanted it they got it. If peace between anon and TSL matters that much to you Aeon then crush them utterly, and offer to restart peacetalks. As the saying goes..."If you want peace prepare for war." Kaughst, kost, kogist, kaust, kahst, kog. I go by many names. Mostly because people do not know how to pronounce my name
843 Epidemic BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder. 471	Posted - 2013.11.24 13:52:00 - [9] - Quote Heh, Tsole stated that they would take any districts Burgezz owns too... not quite sure why. We repelled every attack easily, but then they brought in Outer.Heaven, Pradox and Rogue Spades to do what they couldn't. Real shame I wasn't there to be honest. Oh well, GG. 843-BANE Director // Ranking Officer // BurgezzE.T.F Contact me here
TooL 10000dayz Unkn0wn Killers Renegade Alliance 4	Posted - 2013.11.24 14:37:00 - [10] - Quote 843 Epidemic wrote: Heh, Tsole stated that they would take any districts Burgezz owns too... not quite sure why. We repelled every attack easily, but then they brought in Outer.Heaven, Pradox and Rogue Spades to do what they couldn't. Real shame I wasn't there to be honest. Oh well, GG. noane likes to fight their own wars anymore maynard james keenan can fart into his microphone and still sound better than 90% of shit out there

843 Epidemic BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder. 472	Posted - 2013.11.24 14:48:00 - [11] - Quote TooL 10000dayz wrote: 843 Epidemic wrote: Heh, Tsole stated that they would take any districts Burgezz owns too... not quite sure why. We repelled every attack easily, but then they brought in Outer.Heaven, Pradox and Rogue Spades to do what they couldn't. Real shame I wasn't there to be honest. Oh well, GG. noane likes to fight their own wars anymore We do 843-BANE Director // Ranking Officer // BurgezzE.T.F Contact me here
Aeon Amadi A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. Renegade Alliance 3900	Posted - 2013.11.24 18:35:00 - [12] - Quote Arirana wrote: War is war, they wanted it they got it. If peace between anon and TSL matters that much to you Aeon then crush them utterly, and offer to restart peacetalks. It doesn't. I dropped the role of Diplomat so that I can take a more aggressive approach, starting with this thread - have made it a point to go directly for the ones responsible when I see them on the field and I'm sure that Lysander and Q Starfighter regret knowing my name at this point. Bringing in War Ravens, Rogue Spades, Outer Heaven... That's just the icing on the cake. Reminds me of the Catch War in a way. I Support SP Rollover ^_^
CUSE TOWN333 KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 27	Posted - 2013.11.24 19:18:00 - [13] - Quote 843 Epidemic wrote: TooL 10000dayz wrote: 843 Epidemic wrote: Heh, Tsole stated that they would take any districts Burgezz owns too... not quite sure why. We repelled every attack easily, but then they brought in Outer.Heaven, Pradox and Rogue Spades to do what they couldn't. Real shame I wasn't there to be honest. Oh well, GG. noane likes to fight their own wars anymore We do There are few corps out there that are man enuf to fight there own wars and they get all the respect from me the rest are a bunch of scared little boys win or lose we do it as a corp. The clever combatant imposes his will on the enemy, but does not allow the enemy"s will to be imposed upon him. Sun Tzu
843 Epidemic BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder. 472	Posted - 2013.11.24 19:31:00 - [14] - Quote CUSE TOWN333 wrote: 843 Epidemic wrote: TooL 10000dayz wrote: 843 Epidemic wrote: Heh, Tsole stated that they would take any districts Burgezz owns too... not quite sure why. We repelled every attack easily, but then they brought in Outer.Heaven, Pradox and Rogue Spades to do what they couldn't. Real shame I wasn't there to be honest. Oh well, GG. noane likes to fight their own wars anymore We do There are few corps out there that are man enuf to fight there own wars and they get all the respect from me the rest are a bunch of scared little boys win or lose we do it as a corp. Exactly, the motto at Burgezz is that we'd rather die together than win hiding behind the coattails of another. It seems SL will put ISK and Winning in front of their own pride, a shame for them. 843-BANE Director // Ranking Officer // BurgezzE.T.F Contact me here
21yrOld Knight Pradox One Proficiency V. 318	Posted - 2013.11.24 20:07:00 - [15] - Quote If i was a member of southern legion i would be thinking " Since this guy doesn't represent his corp in any way. Why should i listen to him" your first statement makes this whole topic useless. It also looks like you were scared of being punished by your corps leaders because of this your post. I mean this in no offensive way. I am just saying that first statement takes away the true force of your whole point. If you are going to be fake, don't be made in china.
mini rehak The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 137	Posted - 2013.11.24 20:23:00 - [16] - Quote Scrote Schroder wrote: I have never seen this video. But it was amazing. Need more music vids like this one. +1 Yeah man that was a good video. Know that you mean nothing to me,Nor the lies that seep from your teeth. Won't piss on you if you're on fire.
Heimdallr69 Imperfect Bastards 1338	Posted - 2013.11.24 20:42:00 - [17] - Quote Kaughst wrote: Arirana wrote: War is war, they wanted it they got it. If peace between anon and TSL matters that much to you Aeon then crush them utterly, and offer to restart peacetalks. As the saying goes..."If you want peace prepare for war." "Kill everyone but your own or there will never truly be peace..." Heimdallr I'm everyone's type
21yrOld Knight Pradox One Proficiency V. 322	Posted - 2013.11.24 20:46:00 - [18] - Quote Heimdallr69 wrote: Kaughst wrote: Arirana wrote: War is war, they wanted it they got it. If peace between anon and TSL matters that much to you Aeon then crush them utterly, and offer to restart peacetalks. As the saying goes..."If you want peace prepare for war." "Kill everyone but your own or there will never truly be peace..." Heimdallr "Can I quote my self " 21yrold Knight If you are going to be fake, don't be made in china.
Cody Sietz Unkn0wn Killers Renegade Alliance 1550	Posted - 2013.11.24 20:47:00 - [19] - Quote Kaughst wrote: Arirana wrote: War is war, they wanted it they got it. If peace between anon and TSL matters that much to you Aeon then crush them utterly, and offer to restart peacetalks. As the saying goes..."If you want peace prepare for war." "You cannot simultaneously prepare for war and plan for peace"
Heimdallr69 Imperfect Bastards 1338	Posted - 2013.11.24 20:49:00 - [20] - Quote "Peace only occurs on full moons" random werewolf I'm everyone's type

DJINN Rampage Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 871	Posted - 2013.11.24 21:04:00 - [21] - Quote i like you aeon, but truth is... TL;DR GÿúLevel 1 Forum WarriorGÖô GÿáTemplar of the Exiled.GäóGÖå Gÿå GÖí.GÖí Gÿ» Gÿ« ... Who Gives A Flux
Aeon Amadi A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. Renegade Alliance 3901	Posted - 2013.11.24 21:51:00 - [22] - Quote 21yrOld Knight wrote: If i was a member of southern legion i would be thinking " Since this guy doesn't represent his corp in any way. Why should i listen to him" your first statement makes this whole topic useless. It also looks like you were scared of being punished by your corps leaders because of this your post. I mean this in no offensive way. I am just saying that first statement takes away the true force of your whole point. I plan on them making that mistake. I Support SP Rollover ^_^
ANON Illuminati 462	Posted - 2013.11.24 23:00:00 - [23] - Quote tbh southern legion has lost 90% or more of these battles..... by getting cloned not only that but i guess they are unsure of their members as ringers from alot of differant corps have been involved and not thier own. ive recieved mails from their members stating i dont see why we are attacking you or im not trying to be in these battles because of the respect i have for you guys. ask anybody who has participated in these battles. we have non stop won. but the truth is i could care less about peace the fact that aeon was trying to prove was their word is as good as dirt. they wanted peace talk after the demented minds pfc district was took and given back only to play it off and attack us when they thought we least expected it. another thing is they can field alot of players on our timers but have thier timers set to 08:00 ours times where us americans cant attack them you guys really tho lol not made at all just pointing out the b** tactic your pulling. good players dont hide there times and fight win or lose you know sort of like anon does it. I Sware It Wasnt Me**
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 4253	Posted - 2013.11.24 23:21:00 - [24] - Quote ANON Illuminati wrote: tbh not made at all just pointing out the b**** tactic your pulling. good players dont hide there times and fight win or lose you know sort of like anon does it. Good Dust/EVE player do whatever they can to win. Simple as that. "All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 2115	Posted - 2013.11.24 23:27:00 - [25] - Quote ANON Illuminati wrote: tbh another thing is they can field alot of players on our timers but have thier timers set to 08:00 ours times where us americans cant attack them you guys really tho lol not made at all just pointing out the b** tactic your pulling. good players dont hide there times** and fight win or lose you know sort of like anon does it. QFT? weRideNDie2getha since 2010
SponkSponkSponk The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 525	Posted - 2013.11.25 01:49:00 - [26] - Quote So when we pull in other corps to attack you outside our core tz but inside yours, that's bad? But when we set our defense timers to be inside our core tz but not in yours, that's also bad? I am in awe of the cognitive dissonance required to simultaneously believe both those things. "Pulvis et umbra sumus. (We are but dust and shadow.)" GÇò Horace, The Odes of Horace
The Loathing The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 295	Posted - 2013.11.25 01:54:00 - [27] - Quote Honestly I was gonna stay out of this one since I'm not an active Dust player at the stage, but two things require clarification: 1. TSOLE, for the LONGEST time, fielded nothing but TSOLE players. We were actually known for it, especially after leaving ROFL. Recent appearances of ringers is due the good relationships TSOLE have made with good players, and the fact that a lot of battles are out of our peak time. But EVERY Corp is guilty of ringers, any who say different are talking out of their a**. 2. Speaking of peak times, a lot of US Corps find it frustrating that we put our timers when we do. The simple matter of the fact is it is our PEAK time. It's after normal work hours, but no so late that it affects early morning starts. There's always method in placing your timers, but TSOLE would be stupid not to place their timers at peak attendance. So quit complaining and smash a few red bulls if you're that keen, but TSOLE is not hiding. Why is it the ladies in Dust seem to have more Testosterone than most of the Estrogen fueled whiners in here?
Aeon Amadi A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. Renegade Alliance 3901	Posted - 2013.11.25 01:57:00 - [28] - Quote SponkSponkSponk wrote: So when we pull in other corps to attack you outside our core tz but inside yours, that's bad? But when we set our defense timers to be inside our core tz but not in yours, that's also bad? I am in awe of the cognitive dissonance required to simultaneously believe both those things. I'm in awe that spamming nanohives on an objective to induce lag is a viable tactic. I Support SP Rollover ^_^
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 2115	Posted - 2013.11.25 02:21:00 - [29] - Quote The Loathing wrote: Honestly I was gonna stay out of this one since I'm not an active Dust player at the stage, but two things require clarification: 1. TSOLE, for the LONGEST time, fielded nothing but TSOLE players. We were actually known for it, especially after leaving ROFL. Recent appearances of ringers is due the good relationships TSOLE have made with good players, and the fact that a lot of battles are out of our peak time. But EVERY Corp is guilty of ringers, any who say different are talking out of their a**. 2. Speaking of peak times, a lot of US Corps find it frustrating that we put our timers when we do. The simple matter of the fact is it is our PEAK time. It's after normal work hours, but no so late that it affects early morning starts. There's always method in placing your timers, but TSOLE would be stupid not to place their timers at peak attendance. So quit complaining and smash a few red bulls if you're that keen, but TSOLE is not hiding. I'm definitely aware that TSOLE is an aussie corp so those timers are definitely good for you guys and that makes sense. And I wouldn't expect you guys to change your timers to appease US players. But what does bother me is how come you guys aren't attacking other corps that are close to your peak times.....i.e. Nyain San? Why go out of your way to attack US corps when you can more comfortably launch against Japanese corps or any of those 0900 - 1200 timers? weRideNDie2getha since 2010
The Loathing The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 295	Posted - 2013.11.25 02:38:00 - [30] - Quote Well, I can't speak for the Corp right now, but Nyain were good mates of ours, and before then TSOLE and Nyain had some epic battles in the days of Hellstorm supremacy. All other Asia Pacific timer Corps are gone, wiped out or too small to be pricks to. And besides, the likes of SALUKI, etc still battle with TSOLE now and then. Why is it the ladies in Dust seem to have more Testosterone than most of the Estrogen fueled whiners in here?



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