DUST Search - Logistics Rebalance

Arc-08 wrote:

Alena Ventrallis wrote:

A decent proposal. However, I think a better idea would be:

1. remove 10% damage buff from weapons
2. change shield recharge skill from assaults to 2% damage per level
3. require logis to fill all equipment slots in addition to weapon slots.

Run metrics from there, and see if anything else needs tweaking.

Fist off, hello guys nice post you have here.

Now to business!

Logi's are fine where they are now just looking at the logi's and not anything else in this game (ex TTK or weapon damage or anything like that) A logi is after all a Logistics dropsuit, as a logi you need to be with your group of people supporting them, however if you got rid of their grenade slot then you drastically decrease their chance of survival (that is already slim) when they are between groups or lagging behind.

You aren't a complete support only.. i can only defend others not myself type of suit, you are still supposed to be able to defend yourself and grenades are a major part of a defensive game style.

Now however if you were to say remove the grenade slot i would have to say that it be added in at the advanced tier logi suit, If you didn't give it until proto then that would severely decrease the function of being a good advanced logi, remember some people cannot afford proto's and it would not be fair to force them to go proto just to get an essential part of the logi's self defense.

Few are my equal in one of these specialties, and there are none who can compare in all of them.


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Leovarian L Lavitz NECROM0NGERS 799	Posted - 2013.11.24 02:54:00 - [1] - Quote To bring the logistics back into line with the Assault and Basic suits and allow each to have its own identity, I propose the following balance. Remove the grenade slot from the logistics. Here is why: Currently the assault starts with three weapons and one equipment, for a total of four carry slots. That's fine, until you realize that the logistics suit comes with two weapons and three to four equipment, for a total maximum of six slots, or 50% more carry ability than an assault suit. Removing the grenade slot will allow the logistics suit to become the inverse of the assault suit; versatility against firepower. With the grenade slot removed, the Logistics then gets 1 weapon and 3 equipment With this change, the assault continues to have 3 Weapons and 1 Equipment Each suit specialization then stands out, for raw fire-power you can go assault. For raw versatility you can go Logistics. Omni-Soldier Few are my equal in one of these specialties, and there are none who can compare in all of them.
Leovarian L Lavitz NECROM0NGERS 799	Posted - 2013.11.24 05:36:00 - [2] - Quote Arc-08 wrote: Alena Ventrallis wrote: A decent proposal. However, I think a better idea would be: 1. remove 10% damage buff from weapons 2. change shield recharge skill from assaults to 2% damage per level 3. require logis to fill all equipment slots in addition to weapon slots. Run metrics from there, and see if anything else needs tweaking. Fist off, hello guys nice post you have here. Now to business! Logi's are fine where they are now just looking at the logi's and not anything else in this game (ex TTK or weapon damage or anything like that) A logi is after all a Logistics dropsuit, as a logi you need to be with your group of people supporting them, however if you got rid of their grenade slot then you drastically decrease their chance of survival (that is already slim) when they are between groups or lagging behind. You aren't a complete support only.. i can only defend others not myself type of suit, you are still supposed to be able to defend yourself and grenades are a major part of a defensive game style. Now however if you were to say remove the grenade slot i would have to say that it be added in at the advanced tier logi suit, If you didn't give it until proto then that would severely decrease the function of being a good advanced logi, remember some people cannot afford proto's and it would not be fair to force them to go proto just to get an essential part of the logi's self defense. So, what you are saying is that if your gamestyle includes grenades that you would have to choose a different suit? It wouldn't be one logi fits all anymore? Omni-Soldier Few are my equal in one of these specialties, and there are none who can compare in all of them.
Leovarian L Lavitz NECROM0NGERS Covert Intervention 801	Posted - 2013.11.26 13:36:00 - [3] - Quote SteelheadPep wrote: It seems that people are upset about slayer logis and/or the fact that support logis can score higher than some mercenaries. These threads popup like mushrooms on a pile of cow s**t. As stated in numerous prior threads; solution#235, logistics suits cannot fit damage mods as stated by Dericha but the stacking penality and CPU /PG. Requirements should be increased for everyone else.You keep crying for the nerf hammer, it is only fair that you experience a little loving from CCP aswell. I have and use all of the advanced suits in the game (which also means that I have via aurum all of the proto specialty suits in the game). I'm not biased towards any particular suit, and have experience in all of them. I feel, from my background as an omni-soldier that the logistics suit would be perfectly balanced by loosing its grenade slot. It would then have 1 weapon and three to four equipment, and the assault and basic suits would have 3 weapons and 1 equipment. Omni-Soldier Few are my equal in one of these specialties, and there are none who can compare in all of them.
Leovarian L Lavitz NECROM0NGERS Covert Intervention 802	Posted - 2013.11.26 14:45:00 - [4] - Quote Sgt Buttscratch wrote: Is this an attempt to stop Nyain san from ever killing again. Gallente logi and core locus is all they know!! They'll then spec into the assault suit and assault with it. Omni-Soldier Few are my equal in one of these specialties, and there are none who can compare in all of them.
Leovarian L Lavitz NECROM0NGERS Covert Intervention 802	Posted - 2013.11.26 14:55:00 - [5] - Quote Sgt Buttscratch wrote: Leovarian L Lavitz wrote: Sgt Buttscratch wrote: Is this an attempt to stop Nyain san from ever killing again. Gallente logi and core locus is all they know!! They'll then spec into the assault suit and assault with it. but how would they carry 2 sets of triage hives, 1 ammo hive and a scanner? By giving up their grenade. Omni-Soldier Few are my equal in one of these specialties, and there are none who can compare in all of them.