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Ansiiis The Trustworthy
Ahrendee Mercenaries
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Posted - 2013.11.24 00:05:00 -
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I'm looking for low requirment stuff. Is counter strike any good to learn how to aim? Cause I'm not sure how well AK shots transfer to Dust.
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Dunk Mujunk
RestlessSpirits
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Posted - 2013.11.24 00:09:00 -
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I don't know man, I think the best FPS game to train aim is..........Dust lol. |
Bethhy
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
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Posted - 2013.11.24 00:10:00 -
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Ansiiis The Trustworthy wrote:I'm looking for low requirment stuff. Is counter strike any good to learn how to aim? Cause I'm not sure how well AK shots transfer to Dust.
The aiming mechanics in games where you would train your aim would gimp you in DUST.
Aiming in DUST is about as consistent as a promise being kept by CCP Shanghai.. Which makes it hard to take a consistent aiming game and transfer that ability over to DUST.
DUST makes me worse at other games because of this.
Edit* CS-GO is worth a peak for aiming on the ps3. |
Dunk Mujunk
RestlessSpirits
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Posted - 2013.11.24 00:12:00 -
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It's made me a bit better at other games. Feels like i'm trying to aim with a burlap sack over my head and torso in Dust. |
Ansiiis The Trustworthy
Ahrendee Mercenaries
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Posted - 2013.11.24 00:12:00 -
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Bethhy wrote:Ansiiis The Trustworthy wrote:I'm looking for low requirment stuff. Is counter strike any good to learn how to aim? Cause I'm not sure how well AK shots transfer to Dust. The aiming mechanics in games where you would train your aim would gimp you in DUST. Aiming in DUST is about as consistent as a promise being kept by CCP Shanghai.. Which makes it hard to take a consistent aiming game and transfer that ability over to DUST. DUST makes me worse at other games because of this.
That can't be real, can it? I am downloading CS 1.6 right now. :(
Dust was my first FPS so I didn't notice any wonky mechanics, until Uprising ruined me.
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Eversor Beercase
Beer For Evil Mercs
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Posted - 2013.11.24 00:18:00 -
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Try these: http://www.aim400kg.ru/en/ |
Rei Shepard
The Rainbow Effect
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Posted - 2013.11.24 00:18:00 -
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Ansiiis The Trustworthy wrote:I'm looking for low requirment stuff. Is counter strike any good to learn how to aim? Cause I'm not sure how well AK shots transfer to Dust.
Download APB Reloaded, grab a Scout Sniper rifle, use it as a shotgun in cqc, then lose 50% - 70% of that well trained aim again when you try Dust again....
Dust screwed with my Muscle memory patch after patch after patch ....until i had literally none left...then they released Uprising and put my Muscle Memory under their boot, cocked the shotgun and offed it ....
I still can't aim a damn on this game.....but yeah go for APB R and a Scout Sniper if you want to build aim....after a while you might even aim like me in my Accuracy movie :p
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Bethhy
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
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Posted - 2013.11.24 00:20:00 -
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Ansiiis The Trustworthy wrote:Bethhy wrote:Ansiiis The Trustworthy wrote:I'm looking for low requirment stuff. Is counter strike any good to learn how to aim? Cause I'm not sure how well AK shots transfer to Dust. The aiming mechanics in games where you would train your aim would gimp you in DUST. Aiming in DUST is about as consistent as a promise being kept by CCP Shanghai.. Which makes it hard to take a consistent aiming game and transfer that ability over to DUST. DUST makes me worse at other games because of this. That can't be real, can it? I am downloading CS 1.6 right now. :( Dust was my first FPS so I didn't notice any wonky mechanics, until Uprising ruined me.
Most people in Counter-strike have had one sensitivity for 5-10 years... if not longer.. it is the very definition of a consistent aiming platform..
They will change and or mess with analog/mouse sensitivity in DUST every patch. seriously can go on forever... |
Roy Ventus
Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2013.11.24 00:21:00 -
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I've heard many times that Dust actually helps you in other games.
I haven't played another shooter since Dust but I'm fairly sure my tactical analysis has shot up since playing.
"There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all."
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Ansiiis The Trustworthy
Ahrendee Mercenaries
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Posted - 2013.11.24 00:26:00 -
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Rei Shepard wrote:Ansiiis The Trustworthy wrote:I'm looking for low requirment stuff. Is counter strike any good to learn how to aim? Cause I'm not sure how well AK shots transfer to Dust. Download APB Reloaded, grab a Scout Sniper rifle, use it as a shotgun in cqc, then lose 50% - 70% of that well trained aim again when you try Dust again.... Dust screwed with my Muscle memory patch after patch after patch ....until i had literally none left...then they released Uprising and put my Muscle Memory under their boot, cocked the shotgun and offed it .... I still can't aim a damn on this game.....but yeah go for APB R and a Scout Sniper if you want to build aim....after a while you might even aim like me in my Accuracy movie :p GL o7 I doubt about aiming as good as you but thanks. I am starting to notice that some guys can just outsrafe my aim and it feels humiliating :)
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Rei Shepard
The Rainbow Effect
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Posted - 2013.11.24 00:27:00 -
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Roy Ventus wrote:I've heard many times that Dust actually helps you in other games.
I haven't played another shooter since Dust but I'm fairly sure my tactical analysis has shot up since playing.
If by Tactical Analysys you mean Zerg the bluedots, spam scanners, grenades, noobtubes & Tanks ...yeah you are absolutely correct...
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Bethhy
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
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Posted - 2013.11.24 00:29:00 -
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Roy Ventus wrote:I've heard many times that Dust actually helps you in other games.
I haven't played another shooter since Dust but I'm fairly sure my tactical analysis has shot up since playing.
Situational awareness... in DUST is probably the least usefull skill i've translated over to DUST from other FPS's. You don't have to plan/guess enemy movement's you don't have to guess enemy positions... there is no Prone, duck... cover mechanics... Camping players are countered with a scanner.. Everyone in DUST uses a MOB mentality cuz of the new TTK, cowardice and ignorance so it's rare to get flanked or surrounded.
About the only major situational awarerness used in DUST.. is vehicle positions, sniper's...where the other team is. And who your fighting on the other team and their capabilities. Otherwise we have modules that do all the other stuff we have to do in other FPS's.
Edit* When every player could see everyone... There was 200 times more Tactical nature to this game... it was like chess and everyone could see the board... it was amazing... Scanners are a neat idea... but thats about where my praise stops. |
Thor McStrut
Reckoners
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Posted - 2013.11.24 00:30:00 -
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Bethhy wrote:Ansiiis The Trustworthy wrote:I'm looking for low requirment stuff. Is counter strike any good to learn how to aim? Cause I'm not sure how well AK shots transfer to Dust. The aiming mechanics in games where you would train your aim would gimp you in DUST. Aiming in DUST is about as consistent as a promise being kept by CCP Shanghai.. Which makes it hard to take a consistent aiming game and transfer that ability over to DUST. DUST makes me worse at other games because of this.Edit* CS-GO is worth a peak for aiming on the ps3.
Maybe it's just an indication of how much I suck at FPS games, but Dust has improved my gun game considerably in Halo, and I did rather well in local games of Ghosts against my son. |
Rei Shepard
The Rainbow Effect
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Posted - 2013.11.24 00:33:00 -
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Ansiiis The Trustworthy wrote:Rei Shepard wrote:Ansiiis The Trustworthy wrote:I'm looking for low requirment stuff. Is counter strike any good to learn how to aim? Cause I'm not sure how well AK shots transfer to Dust. Download APB Reloaded, grab a Scout Sniper rifle, use it as a shotgun in cqc, then lose 50% - 70% of that well trained aim again when you try Dust again.... Dust screwed with my Muscle memory patch after patch after patch ....until i had literally none left...then they released Uprising and put my Muscle Memory under their boot, cocked the shotgun and offed it .... I still can't aim a damn on this game.....but yeah go for APB R and a Scout Sniper if you want to build aim....after a while you might even aim like me in my Accuracy movie :p GL o7 I doubt about aiming as good as you but thanks. I am starting to notice that some guys can just outsrafe my aim and it feels humiliating :)
Its still in the hitdetection / drop of framerates and or lag when you absolutely will not hit your opponent, even if your reticule is dead center over his chest ...
Happens quite allot, guy strafes from around the corner, aim like a boss, dead center chest, squeeze trigger, Everything misses, except the round that missed gave a hit marker ....aaand you die ...
On other occasions when the framerates drop to sub 10 FPS, its impossible to track your target...ive been at this game for 10 months now and i still miss shots in a game where the strafing speed is allot slower then in APB R.
Gave up on them fixing it and ill just take the good days with the bad days i guess...but if i went back to APB R right now and record a new movie, i guess idd be hilarious :p (in a bad way)
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Bethhy
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
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Posted - 2013.11.24 00:34:00 -
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Thor McStrut wrote:Bethhy wrote:Ansiiis The Trustworthy wrote:I'm looking for low requirment stuff. Is counter strike any good to learn how to aim? Cause I'm not sure how well AK shots transfer to Dust. The aiming mechanics in games where you would train your aim would gimp you in DUST. Aiming in DUST is about as consistent as a promise being kept by CCP Shanghai.. Which makes it hard to take a consistent aiming game and transfer that ability over to DUST. DUST makes me worse at other games because of this.Edit* CS-GO is worth a peak for aiming on the ps3. Maybe it's just an indication of how much I suck at FPS games, but Dust has improved my gun game considerably in Halo, and I did rather well in local games of Ghosts against my son.
Halo has bullet magnetism so your bullets will curve in the air to hit the target... and CoD used for an example to anything AIM related.... hurt's my brain... |
Rei Shepard
The Rainbow Effect
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Posted - 2013.11.24 00:38:00 -
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Quote:Edit* When every player could see everyone... There was 200 times more Tactical nature to this game... it was like chess and everyone could see the board... it was amazing... Scanners are a neat idea... but thats about where my praise stops
Kinda agree with your whole post, before every had a wallhack and could acts accordingly, now only the teams or the Logambos have one and everyone else is just f*cked.
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all match long, i have to think ....how is the scanner a tactical tool again ? Oh ...wait it isnt ...its another Core Nade...but the exploding part of it is just rushing you from around the wall...all 16 of em ...:p
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Ansiiis The Trustworthy
Ahrendee Mercenaries
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Posted - 2013.11.24 00:41:00 -
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Rei Shepard wrote:Ansiiis The Trustworthy wrote:Rei Shepard wrote:Ansiiis The Trustworthy wrote:I'm looking for low requirment stuff. Is counter strike any good to learn how to aim? Cause I'm not sure how well AK shots transfer to Dust. Download APB Reloaded, grab a Scout Sniper rifle, use it as a shotgun in cqc, then lose 50% - 70% of that well trained aim again when you try Dust again.... Dust screwed with my Muscle memory patch after patch after patch ....until i had literally none left...then they released Uprising and put my Muscle Memory under their boot, cocked the shotgun and offed it .... I still can't aim a damn on this game.....but yeah go for APB R and a Scout Sniper if you want to build aim....after a while you might even aim like me in my Accuracy movie :p GL o7 I doubt about aiming as good as you but thanks. I am starting to notice that some guys can just outsrafe my aim and it feels humiliating :) Its still in the hitdetection / drop of framerates and or lag when you absolutely will not hit your opponent, even if your reticule is dead center over his chest ... Happens quite allot, guy strafes from around the corner, aim like a boss, dead center chest, squeeze trigger, Everything misses, except the round that missed gave a hit marker ....aaand you die ... On other occasions when the framerates drop to sub 10 FPS, its impossible to track your target...ive been at this game for 10 months now and i still miss shots in a game where the strafing speed is allot slower then in APB R. Gave up on them fixing it and ill just take the good days with the bad days i guess...but if i went back to APB R right now and record a new movie, i guess idd be hilarious :p (in a bad way)
Gimme your youtube.
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Thor McStrut
Reckoners
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Posted - 2013.11.24 00:44:00 -
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Bethhy wrote:Thor McStrut wrote:Bethhy wrote:Ansiiis The Trustworthy wrote:I'm looking for low requirment stuff. Is counter strike any good to learn how to aim? Cause I'm not sure how well AK shots transfer to Dust. The aiming mechanics in games where you would train your aim would gimp you in DUST. Aiming in DUST is about as consistent as a promise being kept by CCP Shanghai.. Which makes it hard to take a consistent aiming game and transfer that ability over to DUST. DUST makes me worse at other games because of this.Edit* CS-GO is worth a peak for aiming on the ps3. Maybe it's just an indication of how much I suck at FPS games, but Dust has improved my gun game considerably in Halo, and I did rather well in local games of Ghosts against my son. Halo has bullet magnetism so your bullets will curve in the air to hit the target... and CoD used for an example to anything AIM related.... hurt's my brain...
So what current console game has the best bullet physics? Those are the only games I have to compare Dust to. |
Bethhy
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
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Posted - 2013.11.24 00:48:00 -
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Rei Shepard wrote:Ansiiis The Trustworthy wrote:Rei Shepard wrote:Ansiiis The Trustworthy wrote:I'm looking for low requirment stuff. Is counter strike any good to learn how to aim? Cause I'm not sure how well AK shots transfer to Dust. Download APB Reloaded, grab a Scout Sniper rifle, use it as a shotgun in cqc, then lose 50% - 70% of that well trained aim again when you try Dust again.... Dust screwed with my Muscle memory patch after patch after patch ....until i had literally none left...then they released Uprising and put my Muscle Memory under their boot, cocked the shotgun and offed it .... I still can't aim a damn on this game.....but yeah go for APB R and a Scout Sniper if you want to build aim....after a while you might even aim like me in my Accuracy movie :p GL o7 I doubt about aiming as good as you but thanks. I am starting to notice that some guys can just outsrafe my aim and it feels humiliating :) Its still in the hitdetection / drop of framerates and or lag when you absolutely will not hit your opponent, even if your reticule is dead center over his chest ... Happens quite allot, guy strafes from around the corner, aim like a boss, dead center chest, squeeze trigger, Everything misses, except the round that missed gave a hit marker ....aaand you die ... On other occasions when the framerates drop to sub 10 FPS, its impossible to track your target...ive been at this game for 10 months now and i still miss shots in a game where the strafing speed is allot slower then in APB R. Gave up on them fixing it and ill just take the good days with the bad days i guess...but if i went back to APB R right now and record a new movie, i guess idd be hilarious :p (in a bad way)
This happens frequently, You'll hit every shot perfect and then all of a sudden with that last sliver of health they have left... they are invisible no matter how many sound effect's you get in your ear telling you that your bullet's are hitting.
Most player's don't know what or who is the cause of this and often blame their own aiming inadequacies. After a decade in FPS's and getting a consistent result it sticks out pretty clearly to others.. specially when it will replicate sometimes several times in a match.
The frame rate drop's hurt me more then almost anything because it's been a solid staple to a competitive edge with First person shooter gaming.. Is having the max frame rate solid even through the most grueling fire fights, often reducing resolution to rediculous level's to achieve this in early years..
Well even players do that now on DUST reduce resolution below HD to achieve a more stable frame rate. |
SgtDoughnut
Red Star Jr. EoN.
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Posted - 2013.11.24 00:49:00 -
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Usually games like Counterstrike and TF2 are the FP's you play to get better at other fps. However dust's aiming is so wonky it can seriously throw you off. |
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Bethhy
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
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Posted - 2013.11.24 01:00:00 -
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Thor McStrut wrote:Bethhy wrote:Thor McStrut wrote:Bethhy wrote:Ansiiis The Trustworthy wrote:I'm looking for low requirment stuff. Is counter strike any good to learn how to aim? Cause I'm not sure how well AK shots transfer to Dust. The aiming mechanics in games where you would train your aim would gimp you in DUST. Aiming in DUST is about as consistent as a promise being kept by CCP Shanghai.. Which makes it hard to take a consistent aiming game and transfer that ability over to DUST. DUST makes me worse at other games because of this.Edit* CS-GO is worth a peak for aiming on the ps3. Maybe it's just an indication of how much I suck at FPS games, but Dust has improved my gun game considerably in Halo, and I did rather well in local games of Ghosts against my son. Halo has bullet magnetism so your bullets will curve in the air to hit the target... and CoD used for an example to anything AIM related.... hurt's my brain... So what current console game has the best bullet physics? Those are the only games I have to compare Dust to.
CS is a good game to look at... there are thing's you learn there that will translate to every FPS. There is a Gamer "God" that gives good video's on some of the technique's used.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuOZ1_-4vdg&list=PL9495E17A734F45E7
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Thor McStrut
Reckoners
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Posted - 2013.11.24 01:06:00 -
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Thanks. I'll be sure to watch those. |
Happy Violentime
OMFGZOMBIESRUN
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Posted - 2013.11.24 01:19:00 -
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Ansiiis The Trustworthy wrote:I'm looking for low requirment stuff. Is counter strike any good to learn how to aim? Cause I'm not sure how well AK shots transfer to Dust.
Play any other FPS and you will lose your Dust 'muscle memory'
Go play another FPS for a week and you won't be able to shoot for **** in dust - although, you will still be better than a blueberry :) |
Roy Ventus
Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2013.11.24 17:25:00 -
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Rei Shepard wrote:Roy Ventus wrote:I've heard many times that Dust actually helps you in other games.
I haven't played another shooter since Dust but I'm fairly sure my tactical analysis has shot up since playing. If by Tactical Analysys you mean Zerg the bluedots, spam scanners, grenades, noobtubes & Tanks ...yeah you are absolutely correct...
Ehh...I actually get pissed at simple and cheap tactics.
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Ridire Greine
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Posted - 2013.11.24 17:28:00 -
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Hm, this thread just reminded me.
I dont think the EU PS Store has gotten CS:GO yet.
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Nexxous Strain
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.11.24 17:35:00 -
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Bethhy wrote:Rei Shepard wrote:Ansiiis The Trustworthy wrote:Rei Shepard wrote:Ansiiis The Trustworthy wrote:I'm looking for low requirment stuff. Is counter strike any good to learn how to aim? Cause I'm not sure how well AK shots transfer to Dust. Download APB Reloaded, grab a Scout Sniper rifle, use it as a shotgun in cqc, then lose 50% - 70% of that well trained aim again when you try Dust again.... Dust screwed with my Muscle memory patch after patch after patch ....until i had literally none left...then they released Uprising and put my Muscle Memory under their boot, cocked the shotgun and offed it .... I still can't aim a damn on this game.....but yeah go for APB R and a Scout Sniper if you want to build aim....after a while you might even aim like me in my Accuracy movie :p GL o7 I doubt about aiming as good as you but thanks. I am starting to notice that some guys can just outsrafe my aim and it feels humiliating :) Its still in the hitdetection / drop of framerates and or lag when you absolutely will not hit your opponent, even if your reticule is dead center over his chest ... Happens quite allot, guy strafes from around the corner, aim like a boss, dead center chest, squeeze trigger, Everything misses, except the round that missed gave a hit marker ....aaand you die ... On other occasions when the framerates drop to sub 10 FPS, its impossible to track your target...ive been at this game for 10 months now and i still miss shots in a game where the strafing speed is allot slower then in APB R. Gave up on them fixing it and ill just take the good days with the bad days i guess...but if i went back to APB R right now and record a new movie, i guess idd be hilarious :p (in a bad way) This happens frequently, You'll hit every shot perfect and then all of a sudden with that last sliver of health they have left... they are invincible no matter how many sound effect's you get in your ear telling you that your bullet's are hitting. Most player's don't know what or who is the cause of this and often blame their own aiming inadequacies. After a decade in FPS's and getting a consistent result it sticks out pretty clearly to others.. specially when it will replicate sometimes several times in a match. The frame rate drop's hurt me more then almost anything because it's been a solid staple to a competitive edge with First person shooter gaming.. Is having the max frame rate solid even through the most grueling fire fights, often reducing resolution to rediculous level's to achieve this in early years.. Well even players do that now on DUST reduce resolution below HD to achieve a more stable frame rate.
So, are you saying that my preference for a sharp, defined overall image puts me at a disadvantage because my visual preference promotes an unstable frame rate?
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Sylwester Dziewiecki
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Posted - 2013.11.24 17:36:00 -
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Ansiiis The Trustworthy wrote:I'm looking for low requirment stuff. Is counter strike any good to learn how to aim? Cause I'm not sure how well AK shots transfer to Dust. Call of Duty (1). But honestly I think that all you need is lamp or other stationary object to train your reflex at aiming stuff(just look at it, make 90* degree into other direction, ten come back, and try to stop at exactly same spot).
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Mortedeamor
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL
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Posted - 2013.11.24 18:11:00 -
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Bethhy wrote:Ansiiis The Trustworthy wrote:I'm looking for low requirment stuff. Is counter strike any good to learn how to aim? Cause I'm not sure how well AK shots transfer to Dust. The aiming mechanics in games where you would train your aim would gimp you in DUST. Aiming in DUST is about as consistent as a promise being kept by CCP Shanghai.. Which makes it hard to take a consistent aiming game and transfer that ability over to DUST. DUST makes me worse at other games because of this. Edit* CS-GO is worth a peak for aiming on the ps3. +1 |
Mortedeamor
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Posted - 2013.11.24 18:13:00 -
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you cant transfer skills from any modern fps to dust better go grab 007 golden eye on n64..the graphics and lvl of game are just about the same...dust is like an fps from1-3 generations ago |
Scheherazade VII
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Posted - 2013.11.24 18:22:00 -
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Try battlefield 3, reasonably similar time to kill, slight autoaim but not very strong.
it's a pretty tense game in a kill or be killed environment
I don't have BF4 so couldn't possibly comment.
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