DUST Search - The Amarrian Symbol, ancient texts and Terrans?

Yun Hee Ryeon wrote:

DeadlyAztec11 wrote:

The very theory of Terrans is entertained by the beginnings of the aforementioned civilizations. Archaeological dating shows that they had technology that was more advanced than that if today's.

There beginnings are also askewed due to them, the Yan Jung and Talocan, not having any known primitive period. They just suddenly appear on the archaeological timeline and then progress forward.

So the question is an obvious one, why did these civilizations have very advanced technology thousands of years ago?

Because they came from elsewhere. That much is not really a matter of debate. The Sisters believe they came through the Eve Gate, and that seems as likely an explanation as any.

Our common genetic root is apparent enough. What is NOT apparent is any set of specifics concerning that common origin. If you're content to label whatever world we originated on "Terra" and its inhabitants "Terrans," then you're on somewhat solid ground. If you're looking, however, to cite "Terran" customs, appearance, technologies, geography, politics, history, or much of anything else with any level of detail, you're working at the level of purest speculation, at best.

A common origin is likely. Anyone who claims to know the details, however, is almost certainly fibbing.

Madness is the emergency exit. You can just step outside, and close the door on all those dreadful things that happened.

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DeadlyAztec11 Gallente Federation 2194	Posted - 2013.11.23 13:12:00 - [1] - Quote We have all seen the crisscrossing half circles that designates the Amarr. Though, did you know that the symbol derives from an ancient religion that was active before the Amarrian Faith? It was originally two complete circles with a diamond shape fitting perfectly in the common area of the two circles. There was also an equilateral triangle, the same length from tip to base as the diamond, perfectly positioned in the middle, just as the diamond. When I talked to a priest of my Order, he showed me the following text, which had been translated from an original source: How the Vesica Pisces Explains the Arrow of Time The Vesica Pisces is two circles overlapping one another each representing a spontaneous dimensional expansion out of its original state of the Oneness as represented by the original circle. As the observer observes (or becomes GÇ£awareGÇ¥ of itself through spontaneous dimensional expansion) a very significant event occurs that establishes the permanent arrow of time created by the polarity of the observer and the observed because one must always follow the other in a very definite sequence. The Observer (God) always comes first, followed by the observed (Creation), and coincidentally, the two GÇ£OGÇÖsGÇ¥ in the Vesica Pisces are like overlapping initials GÇ£O.O.GÇ¥ standing for both the Observer and the Observed. Time therefore always goes forward in this sequence of the GÇ£onenessGÇ¥ followed by the GÇ£twonessGÇ¥ (duality of the observer and observed) creating a universal polarity of space, all logical sequences, the thermodynamic arrow of time, and the universal order of creation itself. This is why time (the universal flow of energy) never goes backward, and why time is basically asymmetric and not always symmetric, and why the whole universe is always expanding and never contracting. The universal vibration started by the original separation from the Oneness is so intense that it causes all space to have an ever-expanding sub-atomic quantum energy texture or pattern which sustains all things in creation. Atoms could not be sustained without this quantum energy, the electrons vibrating around every atom would simply collapse into the nucleus, which in turn (being a vibration of the quantum texture of space) would dissipate into nothing. All living organisms, including the human form are sustained by this cosmic (dark) energy. This ancient religion seems to be far more scientific and literal then contemporary religions of today. It also strikes me as odd that they reference Atoms. Why were these people so well educated on this? Modern historians say that the Atom was discovered no earlier then a few hundred years before space travel in every civilization that achieved it. So how did these people know about this? Is it possible that this religion was Terran in origin? This must be deliberated upon further. Madness is the emergency exit. You can just step outside, and close the door on all those dreadful things that happened.
Denak Kalamari Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative 642	Posted - 2013.11.23 13:40:00 - [2] - Quote Terrans again? Why does every speculation and conspiracy theory involve Terrans? I'm getting tired of them. Grahisha of ILF // Writer of Thoughts of a Clone Soldier // Latest entry published 17/11/13
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 4242	Posted - 2013.11.23 13:42:00 - [3] - Quote You do not get to share your interpretations of our holy symbols, you have openly stated you follow a non orthodox school of Khanid religion, one that openly contradicts the Amarr Faith, and is likely denounced by the Theological Council. "All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
DeadlyAztec11 Gallente Federation 2196	Posted - 2013.11.23 15:24:00 - [4] - Quote Denak Kalamari wrote: Terrans again? Why does every speculation and conspiracy theory involve Terrans? I'm getting tired of them. Well, considering the Empress has stated that she used a weapon of Terran descent, I don't believe the notion of Terrans is as silly as it used to be. Madness is the emergency exit. You can just step outside, and close the door on all those dreadful things that happened.
DeadlyAztec11 Gallente Federation 2200	Posted - 2013.11.23 16:39:00 - [5] - Quote True Adamance wrote: You do not get to share your interpretations of our holy symbols, you have openly stated you follow a non orthodox school of Khanid religion, one that openly contradicts the Amarr Faith, and is likely denounced by the Theological Council. We were already denounced twice by the council. The Acumen Order, the sect I am a part of, is merely the second spiritual successor of a line of abstract thinking aristocrats and theologians. The first free thinking school was formed after the death of Dano Gheinok. It was an order of sorts where early theologians could express non canon views. Though was dismantled centuries later by the Theological Council, as they saw the order as heretical for their beliefs. The order then became secret. It was not officially restarted until the Udorians were conquered. They were soon after destroyed once again, when a member failed the trust of his brothers, by revealing the order to the Council. The modern Order is far more secret and with far less members. Madness is the emergency exit. You can just step outside, and close the door on all those dreadful things that happened.
DeadlyAztec11 2264	Posted - 2013.11.27 04:25:00 - [6] - Quote Another excerpt we hold to be feasible, Quote: The Grand Architect shaped all life, structure, laws of nature. Though the Grand Architect did not shape outcomes, did not finish the play nor direct it. We use this old excerpt to support our idea that God is not active in all aspects of life. No, rather, God shaped manners in which things can occur. This was done by making the laws of nature and science set in stone, as well as by providing a set amount of matter and elements. Making a plan and getting the materials a Grand Architect sets off to design a master piece, but the Architect does not build it. The Humans do that. Madness is the emergency exit. You can just step outside, and close the door on all those dreadful things that happened.
Galm Fae Eskola Ergonomics 148	Posted - 2013.11.30 06:23:00 - [7] - Quote Gah. Too many people have been watching episodes of "Ancient Terrans" on GalNet. ** will rot your brain. In the moment when I truly understand my enemy, understand him well enough to defeat him, then I also love him.**
Yun Hee Ryeon Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 366	Posted - 2013.11.30 07:11:00 - [8] - Quote Wait. The Empress said what? ((Pretty sure that's OOC knowledge, there, Aztec. You may have read Tony G's train wrecks, but your character hasn't.))
True Adamance Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 4448	Posted - 2013.11.30 12:02:00 - [9] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Denak Kalamari wrote: Terrans again? Why does every speculation and conspiracy theory involve Terrans? I'm getting tired of them. Well, considering the Empress has stated that she used a weapon of Terran descent, I don't believe the notion of Terrans is as silly as it used to be. And when did she say this to a heretic like you or any of your ilk. I doubt you even know anyone who has seen the Empress before, let alone someone who has been let into her private councils and one who might be privy to her more personal thoughts. Your credibility is certainly lacking if you believe some fairytail nonsense about these Terrans you go on about. "All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
DeadlyAztec11 2391	Posted - 2013.11.30 16:37:00 - [10] - Quote True Adamance wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Denak Kalamari wrote: Terrans again? Why does every speculation and conspiracy theory involve Terrans? I'm getting tired of them. Well, considering the Empress has stated that she used a weapon of Terran descent, I don't believe the notion of Terrans is as silly as it used to be. And when did she say this to a heretic like you or any of your ilk. I doubt you even know anyone who has seen the Empress before, let alone someone who has been let into her private councils and one who might be privy to her more personal thoughts. Your credibility is certainly lacking if you believe some fairytail nonsense about these Terrans you go on about. The evidence is all over outer space. Even the ancient verification method of carbon dating shows that there are artifacts that existed before any of the primal civilizations we have discovered. Madness is the emergency exit. You can just step outside, and close the door on all those dreadful things that happened.

Yun Hee Ryeon Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 367	Posted - 2013.12.01 02:35:00 - [11] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: The evidence is all over outer space. Even the ancient verification method of carbon dating shows that there are artifacts that existed before any of the primal civilizations we have discovered. The Ancients are historical fact. We have names for them: Sleepers, Talocan, Yan Jung, Takhmal. Jove, arguably. We know full well that they probably came from elsewhere. "Terrans," however, are, thus far, a legend at best.
DeadlyAztec11 2481	Posted - 2013.12.04 20:10:00 - [12] - Quote Yun Hee Ryeon wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: The evidence is all over outer space. Even the ancient verification method of carbon dating shows that there are artifacts that existed before any of the primal civilizations we have discovered. The Ancients are historical fact. We have names for them: Sleepers, Talocan, Yan Jung, Takhmal. Jove, arguably. We know full well that they probably came from elsewhere. "Terrans," however, are, thus far, a legend at best. The very theory of Terrans is entertained by the beginnings of the aforementioned civilizations. Archaeological dating shows that they had technology that was more advanced than that if today's. There beginnings are also askewed due to them, the Yan Jung and Talocan, not having any known primitive period. They just suddenly appear on the archaeological timeline and then progress forward. So the question is an obvious one, why did these civilizations have very advanced technology thousands of years ago? Madness is the emergency exit. You can just step outside, and close the door on all those dreadful things that happened.
Vinsarrow New Eden Blades Of The Azure Zero-Day 128	Posted - 2013.12.04 21:50:00 - [13] - Quote ty for letting us know
True Adamance Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 4543	Posted - 2013.12.04 23:09:00 - [14] - Quote ((AERO LIKED SOMETHING HE HATH RETURNED! SUPER AMARR!)) "All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3694	Posted - 2013.12.04 23:38:00 - [15] - Quote True Adamance wrote: ((AERO LIKED SOMETHING HE HATH RETURNED! SUPER AMARR!)) /emote slips back into shadows Amarr faithful, join PIE Inc, the oldest EVE/Dust Amarr loyal corporation! Amarr Victor!
True Adamance Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 4544	Posted - 2013.12.04 23:41:00 - [16] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: True Adamance wrote: ((AERO LIKED SOMETHING HE HATH RETURNED! SUPER AMARR!)) /emote slips back into shadows You are still in PIE//// I am not lol. "All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3694	Posted - 2013.12.04 23:42:00 - [17] - Quote The Amarrian symbol is very simply man and god reunited imperfectly, with god on top. Oh and True, I would very much appreciate to speak with you in another medium ((facebook, skype, whatever)). Amarr faithful, join PIE Inc, the oldest EVE/Dust Amarr loyal corporation! Amarr Victor!
Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3694	Posted - 2013.12.04 23:43:00 - [18] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: True Adamance wrote: ((AERO LIKED SOMETHING HE HATH RETURNED! SUPER AMARR!)) /emote slips back into shadows You are still in PIE//// I am not lol. I strongly suggest you edit this. Amarr faithful, join PIE Inc, the oldest EVE/Dust Amarr loyal corporation! Amarr Victor!
Yun Hee Ryeon Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 371	Posted - 2013.12.04 23:56:00 - [19] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: The very theory of Terrans is entertained by the beginnings of the aforementioned civilizations. Archaeological dating shows that they had technology that was more advanced than that if today's. There beginnings are also askewed due to them, the Yan Jung and Talocan, not having any known primitive period. They just suddenly appear on the archaeological timeline and then progress forward. So the question is an obvious one, why did these civilizations have very advanced technology thousands of years ago? Because they came from elsewhere. That much is not really a matter of debate. The Sisters believe they came through the Eve Gate, and that seems as likely an explanation as any. Our common genetic root is apparent enough. What is NOT apparent is any set of specifics concerning that common origin. If you're content to label whatever world we originated on "Terra" and its inhabitants "Terrans," then you're on somewhat solid ground. If you're looking, however, to cite "Terran" customs, appearance, technologies, geography, politics, history, or much of anything else with any level of detail, you're working at the level of purest speculation, at best. A common origin is likely. Anyone who claims to know the details, however, is almost certainly fibbing.
DeadlyAztec11 2484	Posted - 2013.12.05 00:37:00 - [20] - Quote Yun Hee Ryeon wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: The very theory of Terrans is entertained by the beginnings of the aforementioned civilizations. Archaeological dating shows that they had technology that was more advanced than that if today's. There beginnings are also askewed due to them, the Yan Jung and Talocan, not having any known primitive period. They just suddenly appear on the archaeological timeline and then progress forward. So the question is an obvious one, why did these civilizations have very advanced technology thousands of years ago? Because they came from elsewhere. That much is not really a matter of debate. The Sisters believe they came through the Eve Gate, and that seems as likely an explanation as any. Our common genetic root is apparent enough. What is NOT apparent is any set of specifics concerning that common origin. If you're content to label whatever world we originated on "Terra" and its inhabitants "Terrans," then you're on somewhat solid ground. If you're looking, however, to cite "Terran" customs, appearance, technologies, geography, politics, history, or much of anything else with any level of detail, you're working at the level of purest speculation, at best. A common origin is likely. Anyone who claims to know the details, however, is almost certainly fibbing. And I do not claim to be solid on anything. My religious order is open to all theories of life, this is the one I am behind. Madness is the emergency exit. You can just step outside, and close the door on all those dreadful things that happened.

True Adamance Fatal Absolution 4558	Posted - 2013.12.05 03:38:00 - [21] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: The Amarrian symbol is very simply man and god reunited imperfectly, with god on top. Oh and True, I would very much appreciate to speak with you in another medium ((facebook, skype, whatever)). 4SHORE! "All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
Templar Twelve PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 24	Posted - 2013.12.05 15:46:00 - [22] - Quote While I praise history as the librarian I am, I certainly know for fact that there is only one symbol that is important to the modern day society, for the betterment and unity of the human race.


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