DUST Search - Early Call To The Powers That Be

Vinsarrow wrote:

DeadlyAztec11 wrote:

True Adamance wrote:

DeadlyAztec11 wrote:

I am not sure I support your stance.
Sansha's Nation would bring about order. Peace. Unity.
No more war. No more needless suffering. An ever lasting point of enlightenment.

The Federation is my home. Though, it lacks the order that is needed. Sansha would finally all unite as one.

The Nation, whatever it is, has the same goals we all do, although they would bring it about in a very different way....I would not be so quick to embrace their ways Aztec....I doubt you have seen half the horrors they bring with them....

They may try to manipulate your mind and may always monitor you, but, if you become part of their aristocratic class, life is not so bad.

You dedicate yourself to finding the truth of all, unimpeded by human obstacles. Would be rather quaint.

They have no exact life they only believe in only The Nation & that people must be "saved" from individuality & force them to do so plus The Nation was controlled by Sansha he created they're belief & if he willed it he could change the belief to whatever he wanted at any given time so technically they aren't much of a people or culture just puppets in his game of power nothing more.

The Nation also has they're own constallation oddly if you look in it The Nation hasn't named any of the systems or planets further adding to the belief they are without culture nor act as a people.

Nor does The Nation really have a government it's mostly doing as Sansha says nothing more hence why you don't see Nation representitives other then Sansha trying to talk with The 5 Empires or declaring war for they're people or culture.

Madness is the emergency exit. You can just step outside, and close the door on all those dreadful things that happened.

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Vinsarrow New Eden Blades Of The Azure Zero-Day 92	Posted - 2013.11.22 19:51:00 - [1] - Quote I bring to all a worthy topic of importance here today.... Though this may not happen now or ever I'd like to set the ground-work in advance. - 1 Small Yet Serious Sentence. SanshaGÇÖs Nation It has been discussed before, yes but this is a new topic. However if a attacked by The Nation happens in both EVE & Dust 514 then it will lead to a war but before-hand we should be ready, therefore.... I am calling all powers that be for The 5 Empires themselves have united against them & are still in general agreement that The Nation is a relative dark force that must be stopped at all & every cost, in advance I call upon all Clone Mercenaries (as well as Capsuleers) to take up arms and have a general a agreement that if The Nation launches such a attack we will unite & crush them, as well as any alliances or affilates to them. Those among us that agree to this, please do speak & sign up here. Agree to raise up arms against them in such a massive event of great of importance & seriousness. http://community.eveonline.com/backstory/chronicles/uplifted-1/
DeadlyAztec11 Gallente Federation 2191	Posted - 2013.11.22 23:03:00 - [2] - Quote I am not sure I support your stance. Sansha's Nation would bring about order. Peace. Unity. No more war. No more needless suffering. An ever lasting point of enlightenment. The Federation is my home. Though, it lacks the order that is needed. Sansha would finally all unite as one. Madness is the emergency exit. You can just step outside, and close the door on all those dreadful things that happened.
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 4239	Posted - 2013.11.22 23:18:00 - [3] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: I am not sure I support your stance. Sansha's Nation would bring about order. Peace. Unity. No more war. No more needless suffering. An ever lasting point of enlightenment. The Federation is my home. Though, it lacks the order that is needed. Sansha would finally all unite as one. The Nation, whatever it is, has the same goals we all do, although they would bring it about in a very different way....I would not be so quick to embrace their ways Aztec....I doubt you have seen half the horrors they bring with them.... "All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
DeadlyAztec11 Gallente Federation 2191	Posted - 2013.11.23 00:27:00 - [4] - Quote True Adamance wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: I am not sure I support your stance. Sansha's Nation would bring about order. Peace. Unity. No more war. No more needless suffering. An ever lasting point of enlightenment. The Federation is my home. Though, it lacks the order that is needed. Sansha would finally all unite as one. The Nation, whatever it is, has the same goals we all do, although they would bring it about in a very different way....I would not be so quick to embrace their ways Aztec....I doubt you have seen half the horrors they bring with them.... They may try to manipulate your mind and may always monitor you, but, if you become part of their aristocratic class, life is not so bad. You dedicate yourself to finding the truth of all, unimpeded by human obstacles. Would be rather quaint. Madness is the emergency exit. You can just step outside, and close the door on all those dreadful things that happened.
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 4239	Posted - 2013.11.23 02:19:00 - [5] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: True Adamance wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: I am not sure I support your stance. Sansha's Nation would bring about order. Peace. Unity. No more war. No more needless suffering. An ever lasting point of enlightenment. The Federation is my home. Though, it lacks the order that is needed. Sansha would finally all unite as one. The Nation, whatever it is, has the same goals we all do, although they would bring it about in a very different way....I would not be so quick to embrace their ways Aztec....I doubt you have seen half the horrors they bring with them.... They may try to manipulate your mind and may always monitor you, but, if you become part of their aristocratic class, life is not so bad. You dedicate yourself to finding the truth of all, unimpeded by human obstacles. Would be rather quaint. Its is a chosen few who become that class....and even they are not beyond the manipulative implants. Given more scope and will than the less slaves but not beyond the masters whip. I also would believe the Nation would not trust us. it is unlikely that we as cloned soldiers can be implanted with the same devices. "All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
21yrOld Knight Pradox One Proficiency V. 315	Posted - 2013.11.23 14:03:00 - [6] - Quote Your a call is simply a call. It has no true value, because of that it looks like a poor decision to follow with your plan. If you are going to be fake, don't be made in china.
DeadlyAztec11 Gallente Federation 2201	Posted - 2013.11.23 16:48:00 - [7] - Quote True Adamance wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: True Adamance wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: I am not sure I support your stance. Sansha's Nation would bring about order. Peace. Unity. No more war. No more needless suffering. An ever lasting point of enlightenment. The Federation is my home. Though, it lacks the order that is needed. Sansha would finally all unite as one. The Nation, whatever it is, has the same goals we all do, although they would bring it about in a very different way....I would not be so quick to embrace their ways Aztec....I doubt you have seen half the horrors they bring with them.... They may try to manipulate your mind and may always monitor you, but, if you become part of their aristocratic class, life is not so bad. You dedicate yourself to finding the truth of all, unimpeded by human obstacles. Would be rather quaint. Its is a chosen few who become that class....and even they are not beyond the manipulative implants. Given more scope and will than the less slaves but not beyond the masters whip. I also would believe the Nation would not trust us. it is unlikely that we as cloned soldiers can be implanted with the same devices. Probably, a new hybrid implant would need to be devised. Shouldn't be too difficult. Madness is the emergency exit. You can just step outside, and close the door on all those dreadful things that happened.
Vinsarrow New Eden Blades Of The Azure Zero-Day 97	Posted - 2013.11.24 22:25:00 - [8] - Quote 21yrOld Knight wrote: Your a call is simply a call. It has no true value, because of that it looks like a poor decision to follow with your plan. Says the guy leaning towards siding with The Nation
Vinsarrow New Eden Blades Of The Azure Zero-Day 97	Posted - 2013.11.24 22:29:00 - [9] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: True Adamance wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: True Adamance wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: I am not sure I support your stance. Sansha's Nation would bring about order. Peace. Unity. No more war. No more needless suffering. An ever lasting point of enlightenment. The Federation is my home. Though, it lacks the order that is needed. Sansha would finally all unite as one. The Nation, whatever it is, has the same goals we all do, although they would bring it about in a very different way....I would not be so quick to embrace their ways Aztec....I doubt you have seen half the horrors they bring with them.... They may try to manipulate your mind and may always monitor you, but, if you become part of their aristocratic class, life is not so bad. You dedicate yourself to finding the truth of all, unimpeded by human obstacles. Would be rather quaint. Its is a chosen few who become that class....and even they are not beyond the manipulative implants. Given more scope and will than the less slaves but not beyond the masters whip. I also would believe the Nation would not trust us. it is unlikely that we as cloned soldiers can be implanted with the same devices. Probably, a new hybrid implant would need to be devised. Shouldn't be too difficult. Regardless we still need to stop them & it still be doubtful we can simply have a automatic death system in our suit if it detects a infiltration ^ thus we would die & awake in a new clone also 1 could also develop systems & technology against it. Note in that 1 link that Sansha's Nation members appear to be wearing armor very interesting that because it seems to be something us clone soldiers could end up fighting.
Vinsarrow New Eden Blades Of The Azure Zero-Day 97	Posted - 2013.11.24 22:37:00 - [10] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: True Adamance wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: I am not sure I support your stance. Sansha's Nation would bring about order. Peace. Unity. No more war. No more needless suffering. An ever lasting point of enlightenment. The Federation is my home. Though, it lacks the order that is needed. Sansha would finally all unite as one. The Nation, whatever it is, has the same goals we all do, although they would bring it about in a very different way....I would not be so quick to embrace their ways Aztec....I doubt you have seen half the horrors they bring with them.... They may try to manipulate your mind and may always monitor you, but, if you become part of their aristocratic class, life is not so bad. You dedicate yourself to finding the truth of all, unimpeded by human obstacles. Would be rather quaint. They have no exact life they only believe in only The Nation & that people must be "saved" from individuality & force them to do so plus The Nation was controlled by Sansha he created they're belief & if he willed it he could change the belief to whatever he wanted at any given time so technically they aren't much of a people or culture just puppets in his game of power nothing more. The Nation also has they're own constallation oddly if you look in it The Nation hasn't named any of the systems or planets further adding to the belief they are without culture nor act as a people. Nor does The Nation really have a government it's mostly doing as Sansha says nothing more hence why you don't see Nation representitives other then Sansha trying to talk with The 5 Empires or declaring war for they're people or culture.

21yrOld Knight Pradox One Proficiency V. 326	Posted - 2013.11.25 03:55:00 - [11] - Quote Vinsarrow wrote: 21yrOld Knight wrote: Your a call is simply a call. It has no true value, because of that it looks like a poor decision to follow with your plan. Says the guy leaning towards siding with The Nation I am waiting. If you are going to be fake, don't be made in china.
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 4280	Posted - 2013.11.25 03:58:00 - [12] - Quote 21yrOld Knight wrote: Vinsarrow wrote: 21yrOld Knight wrote: Your a call is simply a call. It has no true value, because of that it looks like a poor decision to follow with your plan. Says the guy leaning towards siding with The Nation I am waiting. I am unsure what to say at this time..... I'm surprised no one has brought up True's first corporation..... "All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
21yrOld Knight Pradox One Proficiency V. 326	Posted - 2013.11.25 04:00:00 - [13] - Quote True Adamance wrote: 21yrOld Knight wrote: Vinsarrow wrote: 21yrOld Knight wrote: Your a call is simply a call. It has no true value, because of that it looks like a poor decision to follow with your plan. Says the guy leaning towards siding with The Nation I am waiting. I am unsure what to say at this time..... I'm surprised no one has brought up True's first corporation..... What is you first corporation true .( ) If you are going to be fake, don't be made in china.
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 4282	Posted - 2013.11.25 04:42:00 - [14] - Quote 21yrOld Knight wrote: True Adamance wrote: 21yrOld Knight wrote: Vinsarrow wrote: 21yrOld Knight wrote: Your a call is simply a call. It has no true value, because of that it looks like a poor decision to follow with your plan. Says the guy leaning towards siding with The Nation I am waiting. I am unsure what to say at this time..... I'm surprised no one has brought up True's first corporation..... What is you first corporation true .( ) Ahem..... "All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
21yrOld Knight Pradox One Proficiency V. 326	Posted - 2013.11.25 04:57:00 - [15] - Quote 21yrOld Knight wrote: What was your first corporation true .( ) Edit: ( Damn that was some bad grammar. ) If you are going to be fake, don't be made in china.
DeadlyAztec11 2255	Posted - 2013.11.25 10:27:00 - [16] - Quote Vinsarrow wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: True Adamance wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: I am not sure I support your stance. Sansha's Nation would bring about order. Peace. Unity. No more war. No more needless suffering. An ever lasting point of enlightenment. The Federation is my home. Though, it lacks the order that is needed. Sansha would finally all unite as one. The Nation, whatever it is, has the same goals we all do, although they would bring it about in a very different way....I would not be so quick to embrace their ways Aztec....I doubt you have seen half the horrors they bring with them.... They may try to manipulate your mind and may always monitor you, but, if you become part of their aristocratic class, life is not so bad. You dedicate yourself to finding the truth of all, unimpeded by human obstacles. Would be rather quaint. They have no exact life they only believe in only The Nation & that people must be "saved" from individuality & force them to do so plus The Nation was controlled by Sansha he created they're belief & if he willed it he could change the belief to whatever he wanted at any given time so technically they aren't much of a people or culture just puppets in his game of power nothing more. The Nation also has they're own constallation oddly if you look in it The Nation hasn't named any of the systems or planets further adding to the belief they are without culture nor act as a people. Nor does The Nation really have a government it's mostly doing as Sansha says nothing more hence why you don't see Nation representitives other then Sansha trying to talk with The 5 Empires or declaring war for they're people or culture. The True Slaves have no will, but the Aristocratic Class is very much free to do anything they want, except plot against Sansha. Madness is the emergency exit. You can just step outside, and close the door on all those dreadful things that happened.
Luna Angelo We Who Walk Alone 152	Posted - 2013.11.25 12:08:00 - [17] - Quote Anyone who tries to enslave me will die, whether Amaar or the Nation. Therefore, Kador, in this and only this, I will side with you. I will fight against the Nation. Contact WaTcHoUt1219 ZARTA for Logos. More are available. 500K ISK.
Vinsarrow New Eden Blades Of The Azure Zero-Day 110	Posted - 2013.11.25 17:04:00 - [18] - Quote The Amarr version of The Black Eagles he killed innocent people on behalf of The Empire among other varying dark & secret things dramatic music Lol jk no idea, personally I would assume it was a default corporation after that my second guess be PIE Inc.
Vinsarrow New Eden Blades Of The Azure Zero-Day 110	Posted - 2013.11.25 17:05:00 - [19] - Quote Or.... True Sons Syndicated Aquisitions.... Am I right? True, lol me & my sources. But that Corporation is long closed. Besides I think PIE Inc. suits him better but that's just my opinion.
Vinsarrow New Eden Blades Of The Azure Zero-Day 110	Posted - 2013.11.25 17:48:00 - [20] - Quote And if Sansha won what would happen to his supporters & The Aristocratic Class, their be no need plus they'd be a threat. Sansha would simply order them to be "saved" from they're individuality. The Nation would also fall apart & be nothing but a dull shell if Sansha died. No win in aiding The Nation in anyway....

21yrOld Knight Pradox One Proficiency V. 329	Posted - 2013.11.25 22:27:00 - [21] - Quote Vinsarrow wrote: And if Sansha won what would happen to his supporters & The Aristocratic Class, their be no need plus they'd be a threat. Sansha would simply order them to be "saved" from they're individuality. The Nation would also fall apart & be nothing but a dull shell if Sansha died. No win in aiding The Nation in anyway.... Unless you gain power. If you are going to be fake, don't be made in china.
XANDER KAG Red Star. EoN. 525	Posted - 2013.11.25 22:29:00 - [22] - Quote 21yrOld Knight wrote: Vinsarrow wrote: And if Sansha won what would happen to his supporters & The Aristocratic Class, their be no need plus they'd be a threat. Sansha would simply order them to be "saved" from they're individuality. The Nation would also fall apart & be nothing but a dull shell if Sansha died. No win in aiding The Nation in anyway.... Unless you gain power. For how long would you keep that power though? Sansha has ultimate power in his domain, who's to say he doesn't have fits of anger at his subjects? And what form would that anger take? Who says you can't kill in style? When CCP plays Dust514
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 4299	Posted - 2013.11.25 22:33:00 - [23] - Quote XANDER KAG wrote: 21yrOld Knight wrote: Vinsarrow wrote: And if Sansha won what would happen to his supporters & The Aristocratic Class, their be no need plus they'd be a threat. Sansha would simply order them to be "saved" from they're individuality. The Nation would also fall apart & be nothing but a dull shell if Sansha died. No win in aiding The Nation in anyway.... Unless you gain power. For how long would you keep that power though? Sansha has ultimate power in his domain, who's to say he doesn't have fits of anger at his subjects? And what form would that anger take? We don't know how he would react to immortal mercenaries though.... can he even implant us without interfering with our current implants? Would he even need to? "All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
Vinsarrow New Eden Blades Of The Azure Zero-Day 113	Posted - 2013.11.26 20:02:00 - [24] - Quote 21yrOld Knight wrote: Vinsarrow wrote: And if Sansha won what would happen to his supporters & The Aristocratic Class, their be no need plus they'd be a threat. Sansha would simply order them to be "saved" from they're individuality. The Nation would also fall apart & be nothing but a dull shell if Sansha died. No win in aiding The Nation in anyway.... Unless you gain power. That would mean over throwing Sansha which is impossible
Vinsarrow New Eden Blades Of The Azure Zero-Day 113	Posted - 2013.11.26 20:04:00 - [25] - Quote True Adamance wrote: XANDER KAG wrote: 21yrOld Knight wrote: Vinsarrow wrote: And if Sansha won what would happen to his supporters & The Aristocratic Class, their be no need plus they'd be a threat. Sansha would simply order them to be "saved" from they're individuality. The Nation would also fall apart & be nothing but a dull shell if Sansha died. No win in aiding The Nation in anyway.... Unless you gain power. For how long would you keep that power though? Sansha has ultimate power in his domain, who's to say he doesn't have fits of anger at his subjects? And what form would that anger take? We don't know how he would react to immortal mercenaries though.... can he even implant us without interfering with our current implants? Would he even need to? Who said he'll use clone mercenaries against clone mercenaries? He may just use those already apart of The Nation &/or abducted people to fight clone mercenaries all he has to do is - abduct - implant them - outfit with combat gear & send them our way we'd be fighting regular mind controlled people in combat gear that aren't clones then....
Vinsarrow New Eden Blades Of The Azure Zero-Day 113	Posted - 2013.11.26 20:10:00 - [26] - Quote Only possible line of thought to over-throw Sansha is to convince The Nation Sansha needs "saved" from his individuality which is impossible as he has absolute control on them & he can change they're belief/culture at anytime. Upon his death The Nation just be a sad mindless shell of nothingness unless he clones himself. Which he may have already illegally which is how he's supposedly back. Which adds on to how over-throwing him is impossible....
Vyzion Eyri The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 2123	Posted - 2013.11.27 06:10:00 - [27] - Quote Chronicles wrote: They walked out into the green tinted glare of wide-angle tractor beams, which lifted them off the ground by the thousands. Their bodies tumbled slowly, out of control, up into the waiting dropships. Wouldn't mind getting my hands on those dropships to try out. Tractor beams sound mighty useful. Although the pay from the combined five empires does sound a little better than what I could get from a marginalised, shunned, brainwashed nation. Ah, the choices. "When nothing is going your way, go out of your way to do nothing."
21yrOld Knight Pradox One Proficiency V. 331	Posted - 2013.11.27 18:25:00 - [28] - Quote Vinsarrow wrote: 21yrOld Knight wrote: Vinsarrow wrote: And if Sansha won what would happen to his supporters & The Aristocratic Class, their be no need plus they'd be a threat. Sansha would simply order them to be "saved" from they're individuality. The Nation would also fall apart & be nothing but a dull shell if Sansha died. No win in aiding The Nation in anyway.... Unless you gain power. That would mean over throwing Sansha which is impossible Or somehow get into his inner circle. If you are going to be fake, don't be made in china.
Vinsarrow New Eden Blades Of The Azure Zero-Day 117	Posted - 2013.11.28 19:08:00 - [29] - Quote That be The Aristocratic Class which is Sansha's inner circle & we just discussed how over-throwing him is impossible even if your in The Aristocratic Class. The Nation obeys Sansha only & are without culture so convincing The Nation is impossible. If he wins he would see The Aristocratic Class as the last threat to him & simply order The Nation to "save" them from they're individuality as I said. The only benefits & right sight is currently The 5 Empires.
Vinsarrow New Eden Blades Of The Azure Zero-Day 117	Posted - 2013.11.28 19:11:00 - [30] - Quote Vyzion Eyri wrote: Chronicles wrote: They walked out into the green tinted glare of wide-angle tractor beams, which lifted them off the ground by the thousands. Their bodies tumbled slowly, out of control, up into the waiting dropships. Wouldn't mind getting my hands on those dropships to try out. Tractor beams sound mighty useful. Although the pay from the combined five empires does sound a little better than what I could get from a marginalised, shunned, brainwashed nation. Ah, the choices. Well you get the 5 Empires paying you, then you get all The Nation's salavage & more pay by us mercenaries & EVE pilots. The Nation doesn't do trading I hear so I guess The Nation salavage would be going very high in the Market.... Plus you'll be hailed as a hero, maybe get your own statue.



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