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Vinsarrow
New Eden Blades Of The Azure
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Posted - 2013.11.22 19:51:00 -
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I bring to all a worthy topic of importance here today.... Though this may not happen now or ever I'd like to set the ground-work in advance. - 1 Small Yet Serious Sentence.
SanshaGÇÖs Nation
It has been discussed before, yes but this is a new topic. However if a attacked by The Nation happens in both EVE & Dust 514 then it will lead to a war but before-hand we should be ready, therefore....
I am calling all powers that be for The 5 Empires themselves have united against them & are still in general agreement that The Nation is a relative dark force that must be stopped at all & every cost, in advance I call upon all Clone Mercenaries (as well as Capsuleers) to take up arms and have a general a agreement that if The Nation launches such a attack we will unite & crush them, as well as any alliances or affilates to them.
Those among us that agree to this, please do speak & sign up here. Agree to raise up arms against them in such a massive event of great of importance & seriousness.
http://community.eveonline.com/backstory/chronicles/uplifted-1/ |
Vinsarrow
New Eden Blades Of The Azure
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Posted - 2013.11.24 22:25:00 -
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21yrOld Knight wrote:Your a call is simply a call. It has no true value, because of that it looks like a poor decision to follow with your plan.
Says the guy leaning towards siding with The Nation |
Vinsarrow
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Posted - 2013.11.24 22:29:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:True Adamance wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:True Adamance wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:I am not sure I support your stance.
Sansha's Nation would bring about order. Peace. Unity.
No more war. No more needless suffering. An ever lasting point of enlightenment.
The Federation is my home. Though, it lacks the order that is needed. Sansha would finally all unite as one. The Nation, whatever it is, has the same goals we all do, although they would bring it about in a very different way....I would not be so quick to embrace their ways Aztec....I doubt you have seen half the horrors they bring with them.... They may try to manipulate your mind and may always monitor you, but, if you become part of their aristocratic class, life is not so bad. You dedicate yourself to finding the truth of all, unimpeded by human obstacles. Would be rather quaint. Its is a chosen few who become that class....and even they are not beyond the manipulative implants. Given more scope and will than the less slaves but not beyond the masters whip. I also would believe the Nation would not trust us. it is unlikely that we as cloned soldiers can be implanted with the same devices. Probably, a new hybrid implant would need to be devised. Shouldn't be too difficult.
Regardless we still need to stop them & it still be doubtful we can simply have a automatic death system in our suit if it detects a infiltration ^ thus we would die & awake in a new clone also 1 could also develop systems & technology against it.
Note in that 1 link that Sansha's Nation members appear to be wearing armor very interesting that because it seems to be something us clone soldiers could end up fighting. |
Vinsarrow
New Eden Blades Of The Azure
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Posted - 2013.11.24 22:37:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:True Adamance wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:I am not sure I support your stance.
Sansha's Nation would bring about order. Peace. Unity.
No more war. No more needless suffering. An ever lasting point of enlightenment.
The Federation is my home. Though, it lacks the order that is needed. Sansha would finally all unite as one. The Nation, whatever it is, has the same goals we all do, although they would bring it about in a very different way....I would not be so quick to embrace their ways Aztec....I doubt you have seen half the horrors they bring with them.... They may try to manipulate your mind and may always monitor you, but, if you become part of their aristocratic class, life is not so bad. You dedicate yourself to finding the truth of all, unimpeded by human obstacles. Would be rather quaint.
They have no exact life they only believe in only The Nation & that people must be "saved" from individuality & force them to do so plus The Nation was controlled by Sansha he created they're belief & if he willed it he could change the belief to whatever he wanted at any given time so technically they aren't much of a people or culture just puppets in his game of power nothing more.
The Nation also has they're own constallation oddly if you look in it The Nation hasn't named any of the systems or planets further adding to the belief they are without culture nor act as a people.
Nor does The Nation really have a government it's mostly doing as Sansha says nothing more hence why you don't see Nation representitives other then Sansha trying to talk with The 5 Empires or declaring war for they're people or culture. |
Vinsarrow
New Eden Blades Of The Azure
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Posted - 2013.11.25 17:04:00 -
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The Amarr version of The Black Eagles he killed innocent people on behalf of The Empire among other varying dark & secret things  *dramatic music*
Lol jk no idea, personally I would assume it was a default corporation after that my second guess be PIE Inc.
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Vinsarrow
New Eden Blades Of The Azure
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Posted - 2013.11.25 17:05:00 -
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Or.... True Sons Syndicated Aquisitions.... Am I right? True, lol me & my sources.
But that Corporation is long closed. Besides I think PIE Inc. suits him better but that's just my opinion. |
Vinsarrow
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Posted - 2013.11.25 17:48:00 -
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And if Sansha won what would happen to his supporters & The Aristocratic Class, their be no need plus they'd be a threat. Sansha would simply order them to be "saved" from they're individuality. The Nation would also fall apart & be nothing but a dull shell if Sansha died.
No win in aiding The Nation in anyway.... |
Vinsarrow
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Posted - 2013.11.26 20:02:00 -
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21yrOld Knight wrote:Vinsarrow wrote:And if Sansha won what would happen to his supporters & The Aristocratic Class, their be no need plus they'd be a threat. Sansha would simply order them to be "saved" from they're individuality. The Nation would also fall apart & be nothing but a dull shell if Sansha died.
No win in aiding The Nation in anyway.... Unless you gain power.
That would mean over throwing Sansha which is impossible |
Vinsarrow
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Posted - 2013.11.26 20:04:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:XANDER KAG wrote:21yrOld Knight wrote:Vinsarrow wrote:And if Sansha won what would happen to his supporters & The Aristocratic Class, their be no need plus they'd be a threat. Sansha would simply order them to be "saved" from they're individuality. The Nation would also fall apart & be nothing but a dull shell if Sansha died.
No win in aiding The Nation in anyway.... Unless you gain power. For how long would you keep that power though? Sansha has ultimate power in his domain, who's to say he doesn't have fits of anger at his subjects? And what form would that anger take? We don't know how he would react to immortal mercenaries though.... can he even implant us without interfering with our current implants? Would he even need to?
Who said he'll use clone mercenaries against clone mercenaries? He may just use those already apart of The Nation &/or abducted people to fight clone mercenaries all he has to do is - abduct - implant them - outfit with combat gear & send them our way we'd be fighting regular mind controlled people in combat gear that aren't clones then.... |
Vinsarrow
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Posted - 2013.11.26 20:10:00 -
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Only possible line of thought to over-throw Sansha is to convince The Nation Sansha needs "saved" from his individuality which is impossible as he has absolute control on them & he can change they're belief/culture at anytime. Upon his death The Nation just be a sad mindless shell of nothingness unless he clones himself. Which he may have already illegally which is how he's supposedly back. Which adds on to how over-throwing him is impossible.... |
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Vinsarrow
New Eden Blades Of The Azure
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Posted - 2013.11.28 19:08:00 -
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That be The Aristocratic Class which is Sansha's inner circle & we just discussed how over-throwing him is impossible even if your in The Aristocratic Class. The Nation obeys Sansha only & are without culture so convincing The Nation is impossible. If he wins he would see The Aristocratic Class as the last threat to him & simply order The Nation to "save" them from they're individuality as I said.
The only benefits & right sight is currently The 5 Empires. |
Vinsarrow
New Eden Blades Of The Azure
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Posted - 2013.11.28 19:11:00 -
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Vyzion Eyri wrote:Chronicles wrote:They walked out into the green tinted glare of wide-angle tractor beams, which lifted them off the ground by the thousands. Their bodies tumbled slowly, out of control, up into the waiting dropships. Wouldn't mind getting my hands on those dropships to try out. Tractor beams sound mighty useful. Although the pay from the combined five empires does sound a little better than what I could get from a marginalised, shunned, brainwashed nation. Ah, the choices.
Well you get the 5 Empires paying you, then you get all The Nation's salavage & more pay by us mercenaries & EVE pilots. The Nation doesn't do trading I hear so I guess The Nation salavage would be going very high in the Market.... Plus you'll be hailed as a hero, maybe get your own statue. |
Vinsarrow
New Eden Blades Of The Azure
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Posted - 2013.11.29 21:31:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Vinsarrow wrote:Vyzion Eyri wrote:Chronicles wrote:They walked out into the green tinted glare of wide-angle tractor beams, which lifted them off the ground by the thousands. Their bodies tumbled slowly, out of control, up into the waiting dropships. Wouldn't mind getting my hands on those dropships to try out. Tractor beams sound mighty useful. Although the pay from the combined five empires does sound a little better than what I could get from a marginalised, shunned, brainwashed nation. Ah, the choices. Well you get the 5 Empires paying you, then you get all The Nation's salavage & more pay by us mercenaries & EVE pilots. The Nation doesn't do trading I hear so I guess The Nation salavage would be going very high in the Market.... Plus you'll be hailed as a hero, maybe get your own statue. I highly doubt any of those things would occur.
Well actually it all almost is to the last point. You may get loyalty points & possibly ISK for aiding The 5 Empires you can consider what you get paid in match as your pay. Then theirs factional corporations that are player made that might hire on some Elites to run nothing but Factional against The Nation.
Most likely you'll get salavge eventually in battle or a reward for The Event which ou can sell on the upcoming Market feature.
As for the statue meh no being hailed as a hero? Possible in varying ways |
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