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Maken Tosch
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Posted - 2013.11.22 17:28:00 -
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Yelhsa Jin-Mao wrote:Having contacted various consumer rights groups via email, including one national citizens advice bureau, I have received no less than 4 responses in just over 24 hours. The responses were all similar and quite reasonable, and all suggested that I give consideration to making a claim if I am still not satisfied when the change happens. They each suggested that I try to resolve the issue between myself and CCP to find some middle ground and come to a reimbursement solution that both parties (me and CCP) agree upon. 3/4 of the responses agreed that any reimbursement should be agreed upon with myself being consulted, not simply TOLD what to accept. With this in mind, I have decided on what I want to request from CCP as middle ground. To any CCP Devs reading this, I am willing to reach a settlement on this dispute by receiving a Master Recruiter CII Dropsuit before or as 1.7 drops. That is my price CCP, I suggest you consider it before this goes any further.
Can you post an exact copy of what it was you told them exactly? Verbatim please. No omissions. I want to understand the context of what you told those consumer rights groups.
Although I do admit that the Master Recruiter CII Dropsuit is a reasonable compensation. However, that is an item that requires actual effort to obtain through the recruitment process. Also, how can you be certain that a dropsuit item that cost no AUR be of equal value to a BPO that cost you AUR to obtain?
CCP, thank you for hotfixing the knives. But please make sure they're at their full potential in 1.7.
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Maken Tosch
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Posted - 2013.11.22 20:08:00 -
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Yelhsa Jin-Mao wrote:Regardless of whether or not the Master Recruiter C-II Dropsuit cost's no aurumn compared to the BPOs I am losing that did cost me aurumn, those are the terms that I am willing to settle on.
Then answer my first question. What exactly did you tell those consumer rights groups (verbatim)? I want to know the full context of what you told them. You seem brave enough to talk about your litigation effort in a forum dominated by trolls, so you should have no problem sharing that detail with us.
CCP, thank you for hotfixing the knives. But please make sure they're at their full potential in 1.7.
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Maken Tosch
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Posted - 2013.11.22 20:09:00 -
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Dust Junky 4Life wrote:Rogue Saint wrote:Jeez man, you're getting a AUR in return, what's your problem?
All this BS about legal action and ****, stop playing. I don't know about the rest of you freeloaders, but I put a rather large amount of cash into Dust. It was the only game I was playing at the time and I "loved" it. I have NO USE FOR AUR! It's no different to me then isk. I can not just walk away empty handed. 30mill sp and my bpo's, all I ever needed. If I got my money back, Id find a new ps4 game to play. Now I feel like I'm being stabbed in the back for supporting a game I liked.
But you technically do have use for the aurum.
Aurum suits, weapons, modules and boosters.
CCP, thank you for hotfixing the knives. But please make sure they're at their full potential in 1.7.
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Maken Tosch
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Posted - 2013.11.23 02:16:00 -
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@Yelsha
Hey, OP. YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO-HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!
I'm over here!!!!!
\o/
I'm still waiting to know what exactly you told those consumer rights groups. And I want it verbatim. That is my price, OP. I suggest you consider it before I go any further.
CCP, thank you for hotfixing the knives. But please make sure they're at their full potential in 1.7.
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Maken Tosch
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Posted - 2013.11.24 23:46:00 -
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xLuca Brasi wrote:I bet I can still post even while t bagged ![Smile](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_smile.png) lets try it!
/maken pulls down his own pants and let's his ******* hang
BRING IT ON!!!!!
CCP, thank you for hotfixing the knives. But please make sure they're at their full potential in 1.7.
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Maken Tosch
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Posted - 2013.11.24 23:47:00 -
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Hey Yelsha, I'm still waiting for my answer.
WHAT DID YOU TELL THEM???!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
CCP, thank you for hotfixing the knives. But please make sure they're at their full potential in 1.7.
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Maken Tosch
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Posted - 2013.11.24 23:48:00 -
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Well?
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Maken Tosch
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Posted - 2013.11.25 02:02:00 -
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Yelhsa Jin-Mao wrote:Mikey Ducati wrote:Your pockets are not that deep. Also, the EULA protects them greatly. Go to court if you want to, you agree to the EULA each time you play. That, bacon bits, will solidified your early grave in the court room. Don't waste your time and money Small claims court and UK/EU consumer representation means I don't have to pay a thing, even if the claim is unsuccessful. At the very least CCPs underhand tactics and deceitful business practices are brought to the attention of the authorities.
But how much of your people's tax dollars are being spent there since you're not paying anything?
CCP, thank you for hotfixing the knives. But please make sure they're at their full potential in 1.7.
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Maken Tosch
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Posted - 2013.11.25 02:07:00 -
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You know, at least xLuca was kind enough to answer my simple questions.
CCP, thank you for hotfixing the knives. But please make sure they're at their full potential in 1.7.
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Maken Tosch
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Posted - 2013.11.25 02:08:00 -
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I'm going to keep pestering you until you answer my questions. I was this buggy when I pestered CCP about the failed nova knife fix when 1.6 launched. I ain't treating you any different when I see that my questions are going unanswered.
CCP, thank you for hotfixing the knives. But please make sure they're at their full potential in 1.7.
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Maken Tosch
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Posted - 2013.11.25 02:13:00 -
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I'm also waiting for you to answer my previous question.What exactly (verbatim) did you say to those consumer rights group about what's going on here? If you want me to properly judge this case of yours without being ignorant, I will need all the information including the context in which you told them.
CCP, thank you for hotfixing the knives. But please make sure they're at their full potential in 1.7.
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Maken Tosch
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Posted - 2013.11.29 04:15:00 -
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Hey, Yelsha.
/pokes Yelsha with a nova knife
I'm still waiting for you to answer my question. You scared to tell the truth? You had no problem posting your intentions to go to court over this on a public forum full of trolls. What's a little truth to what you told those consumer rights group going to do to you? Let me guess, you're lawyer told you not to say anything?
CCP, thank you for hotfixing the knives. But please make sure they're at their full potential in 1.7.
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Maken Tosch
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Posted - 2013.11.29 04:16:00 -
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Iyllaria Dai wrote:Dust Junky 4Life wrote:Kane Fyea wrote:Dust Junky 4Life wrote:U pep r ignorant. I have the ORIGINAL purchase agreeement. I will settle for nothing less then a full cash refund. $120 Ill go to small claims court if I have to. Good luck fighting Sony ![Smile](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_smile.png) . You should give us updates too. FK Sony to! I went right to the top! It's called a charge back! As soon as they are removed, REFUND! I would love to see this happen. See what you fail to realize is when you dispute a charge on your CC, they send a letter to the company to provide proof you did the transaction and that they delivered what you requested, when they do so your charge back will be refused. Have fun...
I love it how so many people threaten a charge back not knowing how charge backs work. lol
CCP, thank you for hotfixing the knives. But please make sure they're at their full potential in 1.7.
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Maken Tosch
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Posted - 2013.11.29 05:32:00 -
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Admonishment wrote:I hope this is a joke lol because I am pretty sure they are backed up by a plethora of lawyers with the ability to rip apart anything said, written, or acknowledged within seconds. Not something to trifle with and it will cost A LOT of money in the end.
Technically it costs him next to nothing since he's using the UK civil court system. But I feel sorry for the British taxpayers who have to cover for it.
CCP, thank you for hotfixing the knives. But please make sure they're at their full potential in 1.7.
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Maken Tosch
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Posted - 2013.11.30 13:08:00 -
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Yelhsa Jin-Mao wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Admonishment wrote:I hope this is a joke lol because I am pretty sure they are backed up by a plethora of lawyers with the ability to rip apart anything said, written, or acknowledged within seconds. Not something to trifle with and it will cost A LOT of money in the end. Technically it costs him next to nothing since he's using the UK civil court system. But I feel sorry for the British taxpayers who have to cover for it. WE British tax payers pay -ú53 million a DAY to some undemocraticly elected council in Brussels simply for the privilege of being UNABLE to govern our own country, close our borders, deport foreign criminals and terrorists, and house illegal immigrants. Don't tell me what we British taxpayers are wasting our money on.
So you want to add to the problem of wasteful spending of your county's resources by going through with this stupid civil case?
Also, don't think your government is the only one wastefully spending. We Americans pay our senators and representatives **** loads of money in healthcare coverage, lifetime pensions, and six figure salaries just for serving two years in Congress while people like me have to work all our lives working on minimum wage and be given only one week vacation a year and we have to pay our own healthcare.
And finally, when are you going to answer my question? You seem to have plenty of time to react to my post about british tax payers but don't seem bothered to answer the question.
CCP, thank you for hotfixing the knives. But please make sure they're at their full potential in 1.7.
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Maken Tosch
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Posted - 2013.12.01 03:45:00 -
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Ensar Cael wrote:NOW TAKE YOUR USELESS EXISTENCE AND DO SOMETHING MEANINGFUL WITH! THAT OR F*CKING HANG YOURSELF.
What a pr*ck.
I know the OP may be annoying at times, but I'm not sure if that even warrants this last bit here.
CCP, thank you for hotfixing the knives. But please make sure they're at their full potential in 1.7.
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Maken Tosch
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Posted - 2013.12.02 02:19:00 -
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Yelhsa Jin-Mao wrote:Ensar Cael wrote:This is totally f*cking stupid. Its a free game and you are whinging because they are taking away your advantages? Stop being a scrub, HTFU and learn to rely on your skills not unlimited gear.
Do us all a favour and take this bullsh*t out of here and into your ridiculous QQ world fantasy. There is a large percentage of the world population who have no luxuries in anyway shape or form.
CCP have made an F2P game here. You took on the T&C's when you signed up to play. One of them was that CCP have the right to change game content of any kind in any way they choose to without warning. They choose to warn you and you should be thankful for that you total waste of DNA. My eyes are f*cking bleeding seeing this pointless pile of pixels in the forums.
For the sake of us, go take a f*cking hike. Rather than pour all this effort into something so utterly ********, why not make the effort to help out those more needy int he world? The Philippine's need help, as does any third world country. Hell, they are those less fortunate in the first world too, that you could be helping.
NOW TAKE YOUR USELESS EXISTENCE AND DO SOMETHING MEANINGFUL WITH! THAT OR F*CKING HANG YOURSELF.
What a pr*ck. I'd like to stomp on your throat, repeatedly, with cleates, till your bleeding from your eyes.
Careful. He might file a police report against you for threatening his life.
Also, about my question... I am still waiting for you to answer it.
CCP, thank you for hotfixing the knives. But please make sure they're at their full potential in 1.7.
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Maken Tosch
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Posted - 2013.12.02 04:55:00 -
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Kaylee Veloc wrote:This thread is mostly pretty funny, read a few of the posts and wanted to add another scenario purely for curiosity's sake; I purchased an official sony headset which was advertised and came with a PSN voucher for Dust DLC that when redeemed gave me a BPO, what would I be reimbursed with should it be removed? Does it have an Aurum value? Does CCP, Sony or the retailer reimburse me? Hell lets make it a game, best/funny/logical/random answer gets a couple mill ![Lol](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_lol.png)
Ooooh I like games.
Well, if hypothetically you purchased this headset with the voucher for Dust DLC (which is a merc pack I assume) long ago when it was still available and you waited this long to redeem the code for the DLC for that BPO, it could be possible that CCP might honor that part of the purchase because you bought it BEFORE the BPOs got removed. Let's hope you kept that receipt.
CCP, thank you for hotfixing the knives. But please make sure they're at their full potential in 1.7.
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Maken Tosch
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Posted - 2013.12.02 06:18:00 -
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Still waiting for the answer to my question, OP. I'll keep pestering you over this until either A) you answer the question or B) admit that you are too scared to answer the question.
In the meantime...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMDSI4hfPIg&list=PLA19164DFA1080FBB&index=10
CCP, thank you for hotfixing the knives. But please make sure they're at their full potential in 1.7.
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Maken Tosch
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Posted - 2013.12.03 05:05:00 -
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Sooooooo..... Yelsha........
About my question...........
Answer much?
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Maken Tosch
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Posted - 2013.12.03 05:08:00 -
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What are you gonna do if I keep on pestering you?
Slap a restraining order on me?
CCP, thank you for hotfixing the knives. But please make sure they're at their full potential in 1.7.
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Maken Tosch
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Posted - 2013.12.03 05:54:00 -
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dustwaffle wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:What are you gonna do if I keep on pestering you?
Slap a restraining order on me? Probably write to no less than four different consumer rights groups and receive four similarly worded emails saying, "You should investigate more into the matter and find out if such actions are within boundaries of the game."
Very likely scenario. Kind of like this...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TEvacFETvM
CCP, thank you for hotfixing the knives. But please make sure they're at their full potential in 1.7.
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