DUST Search - Announcement:Dev Blog: Weapons of Uprising 1.7: Caldari Rail Rifle & Minmatar Combat Rifle

Kevall Longstride wrote:

Tesfa Alem wrote:

Kevall Longstride wrote:

Heavenly Daughter wrote:

will be nice to go straight to proto on both these weapons, 7 million coming back from vehicle respect Evil

This comment precisely underlines why the vehicle only respec needs to be full one. None vehicle users are going to have to grind their way to these new weapons to prototype levels, where as vehicle users, tired of using them, can spec straight into the Prototype Rail Rifle for instance and have a huge range advantage over the existing infantry players.

I normally don't like respec's on the principle that your choices have consequences, but I agree that because of the massive changes to vehicles there should be one. I just think that it should be universal when it happens.

Every single player in DUST get a vehicle skill tree respec, because those months of grinding out SP for tanks and dropships have been thrown out the window. It is not because of new content. There was no respec when CCP introduced the Assault / Logistics Dropships.

Vehicle users get more out of the vehicle skill tree because they spent more in the vehicle skill tree. All that SP infantry invested in LAVs during the Murder Taxi days are coming back to them, and all of our gunners who invested SP in turrets are getting it back. You forget any vehicle dedicated player who decides to swicth out to infantry has to get a proto drop suit / core skills / weapon skills up to be competitive is using millions of SP. Rally, and just to use a Rail Rifle?

You want to go straight to proto stomping with these weapons? Earn it.

I'm perfectly happy with where my skill points are at the moment to be honest. I might tweak the support skills a little if given a chance...

But I was thinking more for the community as a whole rather than just myself. Like I said, I'm against respec's in general but if they have to happen because of changes to the game, they really should be full ones to all.

There is talk of a pay to respec option being made available as part of the changes to how the game is funded, no doubt the beginnings of CCP Rouge's influence from his past experience in FTP games. But I'd only support that if there were consequences for such action, such as if the process of 'unlearning' your previous skills means you lose 10% of your total SP. Making the process of respecing itself a decision with consequence.


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Jadd Hatchen Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 61	Posted - 2013.11.22 15:52:00 - [1] - Quote Kevall Longstride wrote: Tesfa Alem wrote: Kevall Longstride wrote: Heavenly Daughter wrote: will be nice to go straight to proto on both these weapons, 7 million coming back from vehicle respect This comment precisely underlines why the vehicle only respec needs to be full one. None vehicle users are going to have to grind their way to these new weapons to prototype levels, where as vehicle users, tired of using them, can spec straight into the Prototype Rail Rifle for instance and have a huge range advantage over the existing infantry players. I normally don't like respec's on the principle that your choices have consequences, but I agree that because of the massive changes to vehicles there should be one. I just think that it should be universal when it happens. Every single player in DUST get a vehicle skill tree respec, because those months of grinding out SP for tanks and dropships have been thrown out the window. It is not because of new content. There was no respec when CCP introduced the Assault / Logistics Dropships. Vehicle users get more out of the vehicle skill tree because they spent more in the vehicle skill tree. All that SP infantry invested in LAVs during the Murder Taxi days are coming back to them, and all of our gunners who invested SP in turrets are getting it back. You forget any vehicle dedicated player who decides to swicth out to infantry has to get a proto drop suit / core skills / weapon skills up to be competitive is using millions of SP. Rally, and just to use a Rail Rifle? You want to go straight to proto stomping with these weapons? Earn it. I'm perfectly happy with where my skill points are at the moment to be honest. I might tweak the support skills a little if given a chance... But I was thinking more for the community as a whole rather than just myself. Like I said, I'm against respec's in general but if they have to happen because of changes to the game, they really should be full ones to all. There is talk of a pay to respec option being made available as part of the changes to how the game is funded, no doubt the beginnings of CCP Rouge's influence from his past experience in FTP games. But I'd only support that if there were consequences for such action, such as if the process of 'unlearning' your previous skills means you lose 10% of your total SP. Making the process of respecing itself a decision with consequence. I was honestly hoping for a full respect for everyone when the 1.7 update hit. Why? Because devs said so at EVE Vegas is why! They were point blank asked, "Will there be a respec?" and the answer was "Yes." So I'm somewhat disappointed that such a HUGE overhaul is occurring and the full respec is not happening. I earn SP like anyone else and instead of "banking" them and having them lie there useless I decided to USE them knowing that devs had promised a full respec from EVE Vegas so that I could be more useful in matches and PC's. So what happened? Why did you change? I honestly only skilled into the AR because I thought I would get those points back to put into the Combat Rifle later on as there is currently no Minmatar Racial AR at the moment. I've always planned to skill up into Minmatar racial armor, weapons, and vehicles. Call me a damn dirty Rp'er if you want to, but that's what I wanted. Now you are telling me that I've "wasted" over 2 million SP (and more importantly the hours of time I spent earning those SP) and won't be getting them back? If that's the case then please, please, please implement some kinda AUR for respec system soonGäó. As I want my SP and time back and to mean something for my toon in this game other than "Oops, sorry you skilled wrong weapon because CCP didn't think about releasing all racial variants from the get to..." Hell the only reason I haven't skilled into any of the damned vehicles is because I'm waiting on the Minmatar variants to come out, damn it! How can I have "MATARI PRIDE!!!" if you leave me with SP spent on other races crap? On another note, here is a link to a discussion that was previously started about the idea of AUR for respec's as apparently this may become the only solution to fix the devs' screw-ups and broken promises. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=118583&find=unread
Jadd Hatchen Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 61	Posted - 2013.11.22 16:23:00 - [2] - Quote steadyhand amarr wrote: A respec is happening u getting it for vercs so ccp ddidnt lie u failed to ask the question correctly. :-P Ok, then by your logic... They revamped vehicles = vehicle respec so... They are also now changing stats on weapons + adding new weapons = revamping weapons = weapon respec so... Where is my weapon respec? =P (See I can stick my tongue out too.)