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Mobius Kaethis Molon Labe PC RISE of LEGION 983	Posted - 2013.11.22 05:18:00 - [1] - Quote ACE OF JOKERS wrote: Zero Harpuia wrote: I never said Bob was afraid of Alex, that is you failing to see things from a Bob's point of view. You are having an X-Man moment: I am different and therefore better. You think that your poor SP choices are responsible for your combat failings. You think Bob is only good because he spent his SP wisely. What is actually going on is that Alex is not getting punished for throwing his SP about, while Bob is not getting rewarded for being careful with his SP. Even if you tested some equipment, do you know how little the first level of any skill matters? You can train it off of two or three good matches. That is no excuse for being poor with SP. Bob is getting thrown to the wayside, and the DEVs are breaking their word to appease the Alex's. GÖªOf course you wont admit Bob is Afraid of Alex. You are Bob. GÖªEven with his Poor SP decisions (which were NOT POOR AT THE TIME THEY WERE MADE, they got nerfed thanks to Bob QQ) Alex can still pound bob. GÖªI never Said Bob was good. I said Bob has an advantage over Alex. GÖªWho said Alex throwesd his SP about? Alex wanted to be a Nova Knife scout and an AV specialist. Both got Nerfed to the ground. This is not poor SP choices, not spending SP poorly, this is something inevitable that when it happns to BOB, ALex wont be there to support him. GÖªDevs are breaking their word because there are more Alex's than Bobs, and the Devs KNOW Alex's are rights.Bobs arent.Simple. Using bold text doesn't make your argument any more correct Ace, it just makes it more annoying to read. Any one who is great at written arguments will tell you that the words should speak for themselves. The formatting needs to be as unobtrusive as possible. I'd also like to point out that you have single handedly taken a thread that was rather even handed and fair to both sides and started to turn it into a **** slinging match. By doing so you are not only dragging the ideas you are espousing here through the muck but also any other idea you may happen to post on this forum. It is clear that you have a major emotional investment in respecs. That is fine. In fact CCP would say that getting you so emotionally invested that your actively engaging in text-based yelling matches is evidence that they are creating an immersive game. Congratulations, you've let your disbelief become suspended. Remember though, this is a game. SP reset or not it is about having fun and getting angry certainly denies you that fun, in addition to doing nothing to help increase the chance of getting that SP reset you so desire. Fun > Realism
Mobius Kaethis Molon Labe PC RISE of LEGION 985	Posted - 2013.11.22 05:28:00 - [2] - Quote DJINN Marauder wrote: I always thought that the "this is just a game" argument is pretty stupid imo. I just like to point it out to people who are taking this stuff far too seriously. It is okay to get emotionally invested but in the end it is just a game and we need to be mellow and have fun with it. Fun > Realism
Mobius Kaethis Molon Labe PC RISE of LEGION 987	Posted - 2013.11.22 05:35:00 - [3] - Quote ACE OF JOKERS wrote: [ Well ithink is unfair to vehicle drivers to have a respec and being able to put those SP into infantry,and we infantry AV wont,even if our weapons were UNESESARILY NERFED (Ty to all the Tanker QQ) to the ground. Now i wont get a Partial respec on my FG,Swarms, AV grenades and PC? How come? what if i want to use it to spec into vehicles? Seems like crappy decision making from CCP. Arg! Again with the bold text already. Knock it off. It is really hard to read that. Actually it is perfectly fair that vehicle users get a repsec of all the vehicle skill trees. Lots of the skills they initially bought into are no longer usable and all the equipment they are affecting had deeply changed. To not give them a respec of the vehicle related skills would be a travesty. You as an infantry player on the other hand have had no massive changes made upon your skill tree in a very short time frame. Yes there have been changes but all the equipment you skilled for is still there and all the skills you bought into still exist as well. The stats those skills effect may have changed in minor ways, and the same can be said for the equipment but compared to the vehicle changes these are insignificant. Yep. Its fair. I checked. Fun > Realism
Mobius Kaethis Molon Labe PC RISE of LEGION 991	Posted - 2013.11.22 05:51:00 - [4] - Quote ACE OF JOKERS wrote: Zero Harpuia wrote: Forgetting Bob and Alex for a minute, you seriously specced into Forge Guns, Swarm Launchers, AV grenades, and Plasma Cannons, as well as Nova Knives? That's three Light weapons, a Heavy weapon, a Sidearm, and the suits to go with them. And not ONCE did you think of spending some on an anti-infantry firearm? I need to say nothing, this speaks for itself. You are an Alex. Come to me bro, i'll show you how a SCR rifle is used. Before the Uprising OPTIONAL Respec= I was a Chromosome Scout. When the SCR came out , I became a SCR specialist. AFTER THE RESPEC we got in uprising: I specced into SCR RIFLES and SCOUTS FIRST. With this i went Amarr assault and Minmatar scouts Scouts for CQ, AMarr Assault for every other map. Nova knifes 5, Shotguns 5, SMGs 4 (that are still good, THANK GOD) , and a Lot Of My SP into Passive stuff for my scout. When the Murder Taxi trend came along and was the FOTM, i decided i wanted to stop it.I had enough of it and i was NOT having fun anymore. SO i invested into Amarr sentinel Lv 4, FG Proficiency 5, Swarm launcher to use on my assault amarr, Prof 5, Grenades Operation 5.(note , I didnt even USE locus grenades before. I only used the SP wor the Lai Dai packed ones....).The PC when it came out i only got it to level 3. The commando Lv 3 is MY fault for trying to try stuff out,but its impossible to use the STD commando as it has NO slots. This is a short history of my SP usage, since you are interested. Except the commando, i dont really think i either jumped into any FOTM NOR wasted my Sp around.I dont deserve to run handicapped now. Yeah i know what you are going to say, SCR! SCR are GOOD! Well yeah , but i have 20 mill and i run ADV SCR and ADV Amarr asasult with 550 HP. LET ME RUN A PROFILE DAMPNED , 850EHP, IMPERIAL SCRAMBLER RIFLE + QUantum SCANNER Amarr Assault. Heh, throw me at them Proto logis.... I have about 3 or 4 Mill SP that is actaully useful for my current play style. 7-8 maybe considering the Passives. Leaving me with a total of (in the best case scenario) 12 Million of wasted SP. Now you might say: Your AV weapons were a kind of FOTM vs Murder taxis and you shouldnt get a respec! WELL MURDER TAXIS ARE GETTING A RESPEC NOW ARENT THEY. So you are the player that choose to spend his skill points everywhere and now wants a respec so you can specialize. The OP described this as a valid point of view. I don't see why you're so antagonized by him. I have to say I totally disagree that you deserve a respec. You've been too eclectic in your spending of your SP and turned yourself into a generalist. This isn't really a huge negative since now you can start specilizing and also have all those other generally usefull skills to fall back onto when a special situation demands it. That is no reason for a respec at all. You may not have played EVE before but they don't get respecs and their skill point accrual is far less forgiving then ours. If CCP doesn't give repecs to EVE pilots (who by the way only had a very limited number of ships to choose from when EVE started) they why would they give them to us? Why do you inparticular deserve to get one when they have done nothing to drastically change your skill tree? Its not like your skill in forge guns won't let you kill vehicles anymore (who cares if the vehicles have changed). If anything they are more destroyable. Edit: I'd also like to point out tha t the phrase you were looking for is "Come at me bro," which means you want to start a fist fight, something impossible for us forum warriors. Saying "Come to me bro," sounds really stupid. Its like your an 80 year old man trying to use those "darn kids' lingo." Fun > Realism

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