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Marston VC
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Posted - 2013.11.21 23:27:00 -
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Tons of people are calling for CCP to nerf logi suits. That's just nonsensical. I haven't seen a single post bring up a valid way to nerf the logi suits without breaking them. (and before you guys say "hes just biased because he only uses logi suits" Actually..... I have three proto assault suits, and only 1 proto logi suit......). So rather then nerfing PG/CPU, or reducing damage, or taking away weapon availability. Why not just make it so that assault suits are better at slaying then logis????
One way or the other, an entire class of suits has to be changed. So rather then nerfing things and pissing people off, why not just buff things and make some people happy about it? The reason I think assaults should be buffed is because of the Calogi fiasco we had back in 1.0-1.1.
Somebody posted a fit of their Calogi before and after the nerf it got. The fit was literally the exact same but instead of having a bunch of logi like equipment, there was just 1 nanohive. Which means........ it was still a slayer fit...... Same exact suit, just a little bit less health in shields (because of the nerf to shields it got). So what happens if CCP nerfs things to the logi suits? Well..... history shows that it actually damages logiing like behavior, so instead of nurfing logis, I think it would be better to just make assaults better at what they do.
Give assault suits damage buffs to racial specific weapons, increase there CPU and PG so that they can use all those complex modules. (which would make sense considering its the same as a logi suit just without equipment slots). Make it so that its actually worth using assault suits, and stop talking all this nonsense about how "logis are OP" Buffing the calogi assault was a good start, but I don't personally believe it was enough because I know for a fact I see way more logi suits in PC battles then assaults. So yeah..... that's just my take on what should actually be done. IDK how you guys feel, and honestly it really doesn't concern me either way CCP decides to lean.
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Marston VC
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Posted - 2013.11.22 03:26:00 -
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Denchlad 7 wrote:Only change I would make to Assaults is more CPU and PG for complex modules. No slot changes. I'll be happy with that.
And it would make sense too. Its the same size suit as the logi suits, but it has less overall module slots tier for tier. So idk why it doesn't have as much CPU/PG as a logi at least.
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Marston VC
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Posted - 2013.11.22 12:14:00 -
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Infamous Erich wrote:Give assaults 2 equipment only on the proto varients of each race and i would say thats perfect. Nanohive and nanite FTW!
They cant do that, because then everyone would run assault suits. It used to be like that in closed beta, and it was really rare to see a logi almost ever. The reason for it was because you'd have full proto squads who all ran a combination of equipment that allowed them to function without a logi.
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Marston VC
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Posted - 2013.11.22 12:20:00 -
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George Moros wrote:@OP:
How is nerfing logi's CPU/PG while giving them a bonus to fitting equipment, breaking logi dropsuits? Practically every suggestion I read concerning CPU/PG nerf, also said that it should go along with equipment fitting bonus.
Why do you think assaults need a buff? Their usage on the battlefield is paling due to increased domination of scouts and heavies? Stop acting like the only dropsuits that exist in DUST are mediums. If you buff assaults, you'd have to buff every other dropsuit class in the game. So, basically, you're suggesting that it would be easier to buff everything, than to nerf the logi. Doesn't make much sense to me.
Actually, that's not what I suggested at all. Nerfing the logi's CPU/PG but giving a buff to equipment usage is absolutely idiotic. Its the same as doing nothing. Buffing assaults would not in-balance the game anymore then it already is. If you haven't noticed, heavy suits have gotten three buffs over the last four months. Two indirect buffs, and one direct buff. Logis have remained largely the same. Scouts still suck. By buffing assault suits, it will allow for them to actually compete with well fitted logi suits, and feasibly be able to attempt a kill on a well fitted heavy.
Im not saying "buff every other suit" im saying buff the assault suit....... and I don't know how you could possibly twist my words any further then that to begin with.
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Marston VC
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Posted - 2013.11.22 19:36:00 -
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ELITE INQUISITOR wrote:Don't buff ANY medium suit. Especially the assault suit. Just make the logis have to put something in their equipment slots. Kinda like every suit has to have a primary weapon to be playable. The logis wouldn't be able to tank because pg/cpu would be used up on equipment. They could even put all re's if they wanted.
Or I just put three compact nanohives in my slots.......
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Marston VC
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Posted - 2013.11.22 19:37:00 -
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chase rowland wrote:Marston VC wrote:Tons of people are calling for CCP to nerf logi suits. That's just nonsensical. I haven't seen a single post bring up a valid way to nerf the logi suits without breaking them. (and before you guys say "hes just biased because he only uses logi suits" Actually..... I have three proto assault suits, and only 1 proto logi suit......). So rather then nerfing PG/CPU, or reducing damage, or taking away weapon availability. Why not just make it so that assault suits are better at slaying then logis????
One way or the other, an entire class of suits has to be changed. So rather then nerfing things and pissing people off, why not just buff things and make some people happy about it? The reason I think assaults should be buffed is because of the Calogi fiasco we had back in 1.0-1.1.
Somebody posted a fit of their Calogi before and after the nerf it got. The fit was literally the exact same but instead of having a bunch of logi like equipment, there was just 1 nanohive. Which means........ it was still a slayer fit...... Same exact suit, just a little bit less health in shields (because of the nerf to shields it got). So what happens if CCP nerfs things to the logi suits? Well..... history shows that it actually damages logiing like behavior, so instead of nurfing logis, I think it would be better to just make assaults better at what they do.
Give assault suits damage buffs to racial specific weapons, increase there CPU and PG so that they can use all those complex modules. (which would make sense considering its the same as a logi suit just without equipment slots). Make it so that its actually worth using assault suits, and stop talking all this nonsense about how "logis are OP" Buffing the calogi assault was a good start, but I don't personally believe it was enough because I know for a fact I see way more logi suits in PC battles then assaults. So yeah..... that's just my take on what should actually be done. IDK how you guys feel, and honestly it really doesn't concern me either way CCP decides to lean. you forget, the medium assault suit is still OP compared to the heavy and scout. think about them for once
The scout suit is weak ill give you that. But the heavy suits can have about 1700 HP now...... If a heavy suit cant make something work with the tank of an LAV then idk what were supposed to do.
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