I get what you're saying, but I don't really see how it makes sense that locking stuff above you has a longer range than locking stuff horizontally from you. I think there must be a more eloquent solution.

Wrong thats their max lock on range

I mean swarms are pretty mindless, this could be CCP making a push for people to use more skill-oriented AV weapons and being less reliant on the noob-proof ones?

Except we make ourselves absolutely useless up there. We need to come down, within 175m of the ground in fact, to be of use.

To be honest, this lock on restriction is a boon for noob ()swarm users. Experienced users will know to let the vehicle get as close as possible so as not to lose the element of surprise and get whole clips in the air before the vehicle can back away. This encourages that sort of play.

Furthermore, what with vehicle reliance on supply depots, squads of swarms can camp enemy depots knowing vehicles will need to resupplying ammo there eventually, and gangbang them.

Sorry feline overlord but I'm inclined to disagree on this one.

1. you're an idiot cat merc
2. swarms are area denial, dropships guns have very little range.
3. dropships with mcru's have always been untouchable at max height
4. you're an idiot cat merc

Effective long missile range is about 80m. Very few kills happen above 100m range. Try it. Swarms do not have to aim. they can fire while jumping off a ledge or hopping like a fairy on skipping drugs. At the same time it am trying to hit their 3 pixel dot of a body that is the same colour as the ground; their hits are knocking me all over the place, yet my missiles do not hinder their aim one bit.

I have never hit anyone from a dropship at 175m. Even if I did it would not OHK you unless it was a direct hit, and even then only if you are in a weak suit. You seem to like to spread misinformation Cat Merc yet never change what you say even after you have been corrected many times. We can see your agenda is a selfish one, which is something New Eden allows for but It would greatly help the community if you tried to be more honest and fair with other posters.

You have already been corrected about the 175m being lock on not range, yet you keep saying range. Why do you keep trying to mislead people?

Isnt this the same logic that brought the heavy down?

"One class that needs focused fire to kill? Thats OP! We can't think! We lack brain-CPU to power that function! ccP pweez give us moar crutches!"

I find every single AVer and AR person to be ******* morons.

A single AVer SHOULD be a threat to a tank. But not an instantaneous WTFpwn to any tanker nearby. Making the swarmlauncher have reduced range that it needs to be closer to fire rockets is one way to look at it.

Another way we could've nerfed the swarm is 500m range, 110 damage a missile, and they're shootable.
Wht do we have then? A constant nuisance to every tank, but not a viable threat.

In it's to be nerfed state, tankers can avoid you guys, and you can be a deterrant singlehandedly. If you wish to instawtfpwn a goddamned tank, think.
Or just Zerg on it until it pops. Whichever one you deem fit enough for your faschist ways. And yes, i called EVERY GODDAMNED AVER A NAZ.I.

Tankers want their fun, as do avers i get that. But when you want it such that 1 aver can kill something with little patience, nor thinking, thats being selfish.

"Wahh CCP make my AR do 30% damage to vehicles, ooh ooh! And throw splash damage and seeker underbarrel ForgeGuns!" Is what you are in a sense asking.