10 mil sp will no longer the be the max, its going to be around 20 mil now.

i would not suggest skilling back into vehicle takahiro things are not improving there anytime soon by the time they do improve you could grind out another 20 mill sp and max tanks best to do what you said go into infantry i will be. i figure ccp will have av/vehicles balanced and right by next year so by then ill have enough sp to go back into em

av can get a respec after 5 more nerfs in 6 months

AV and nerf don't usually fit together in the same sentence. It's not a nerf, it's an adjustment to match the new vehicle mechanics. AV would be completely op towards new vehicles if it was not toned down a bit.

Good. I get to put that SP to use.

Tanks are stupid easy and boring. I'll stick to my LLAV and SLAVs.

Good. I get to put that SP to use.

Tanks are stupid easy and boring. I'll stick to my LLAV and SLAVs.

*chuckles* like if the LLAV doesn't have more tank AND rep you outside of vehicle, go use a tank vs. non militia team

People who want to spec out of AV are simply going to cause this to happen. Vehicles get their respec because the tree changed. Fair enough. AV gets their respec because durr...

Tanks show up and are difficult to destroy because people decided to spec out of AV because it was nerfed instead of getting more people to spec it to aid in countering effectively. Result: tanks stomp. People QQ because no one has AV. Another vehicle nerf. More QQ and the wheels on the bus go around again.

Taka, I guess a full respec would allow you to sort out the 12 suits you are specced into XD

Operating the vehicle itself is stupid easy. Using said vehicle in combat is another story.

Remind you of something?

And LLAVs don't have more tank than an HAV, and if I want reps outside of my car I have to get someone else to start the repair module.

Taka, I guess a full respec would allow you to sort out the 12 suits you are specced into XD

Yeah lol, he talks like he wants it for the poor AV guys, but he fked up hard on SP himself.

Not really

Its just that i have BPOs that require some pts into suits

The suits i mainly used are ones that i skilled into like heavys to proto level

Also i use AV like swarms/av nades and FG so frankly i could with points out of the heavy because HMG sucks next to a duvolle

Heavy proto ... that's why u want a respec.
Don't like it to be shot by a Duvolle in 1sec?

https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=122274

So CCP decided to give vehicle users a respec but not a full respec only a part respec, it means your vehicle skills are refunded back to you and any infantry skills you have you still keep

For me that works out as about 20mil SP refunded

With that i could easily max out any 3 proto suits and the tank needed plus the core and sort out any of the weapons i like and proto stomp till the end of time since its alot cheaper than being a vehicle pilot

For any AV which is knee deep in the AV weapon and its suit, its tough **** CCP has basically said

For any FG they need the heavy suit, some enjoy the FG and if its gets nerfed in 1.7 they may want out but also out of the heavy suit since you need it to wield the weapon, the HMG is sub par in comparision to the AR so that leaves you with no weapons and you stuck in a suit you dont like which will gather dust until it becomes useful again

The SL is normally put on the fave assault suit generally with AV nades, the weapons have changed so they may also want out to put back into another weapon instead or suit

The respec is all one way, currently advantage pilots and we could easily flood into infantry and not bother about vehicles again because we can skill into at least 2/3 proto suits with a proto weapons and mods to boot because that SP is free and we are not forced to spend it into a certain path

So really everyone should get a full respec because some may want to try out vehicles now, they may look at 1.7 and think that finally vehicles maybe useful and fun and not just moving coffins and get out of infantry while players who want out of vehicles get the chance to do just that while the other half have to grind about 10mil more SP so they can get into it because no respec for you

Hell CCP just give everyone as full respec as a early xmas present, i can deal with that

i only want a full respec so i could take the sp ive put into infantry, since maxing out my vehicle skills, and put them into vehicles where i will need them since vehicles will cost even more sp now.

Good. I get to put that SP to use.

Tanks are stupid easy and boring. I'll stick to my LLAV and SLAVs.

I am pretty shocked that a respec for all is not happening. This kind of selective respecing...admitting things were changed to a degree is quite disappointing.
How many flaylocks are out there...all wasted SP. Soon to be swarms...I can honestly say after my boosters run out...I may too.

Good. I get to put that SP to use.

Tanks are stupid easy and boring. I'll stick to my LLAV and SLAVs.

https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=122274

So CCP decided to give vehicle users a respec but not a full respec only a part respec, it means your vehicle skills are refunded back to you and any infantry skills you have you still keep

For me that works out as about 20mil SP refunded

With that i could easily max out any 3 proto suits and the tank needed plus the core and sort out any of the weapons i like and proto stomp till the end of time since its alot cheaper than being a vehicle pilot

For any AV which is knee deep in the AV weapon and its suit, its tough **** CCP has basically said

For any FG they need the heavy suit, some enjoy the FG and if its gets nerfed in 1.7 they may want out but also out of the heavy suit since you need it to wield the weapon, the HMG is sub par in comparision to the AR so that leaves you with no weapons and you stuck in a suit you dont like which will gather dust until it becomes useful again

The SL is normally put on the fave assault suit generally with AV nades, the weapons have changed so they may also want out to put back into another weapon instead or suit

The respec is all one way, currently advantage pilots and we could easily flood into infantry and not bother about vehicles again because we can skill into at least 2/3 proto suits with a proto weapons and mods to boot because that SP is free and we are not forced to spend it into a certain path

So really everyone should get a full respec because some may want to try out vehicles now, they may look at 1.7 and think that finally vehicles maybe useful and fun and not just moving coffins and get out of infantry while players who want out of vehicles get the chance to do just that while the other half have to grind about 10mil more SP so they can get into it because no respec for you

Hell CCP just give everyone as full respec as a early xmas present, i can deal with that

They were constantly buffed and now you want to fight for they respec so they can dump Plasma Cannon and spec in to one successful AV with support skill on lvl5. Well... find your self other way to get more likes, ok .

AV and nerf don't usually fit together in the same sentence. It's not a nerf, it's an adjustment to match the new vehicle mechanics. AV would be completely op towards new vehicles if it was not toned down a bit.

https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=122274

So CCP decided to give vehicle users a respec but not a full respec only a part respec, it means your vehicle skills are refunded back to you and any infantry skills you have you still keep

For me that works out as about 20mil SP refunded

With that i could easily max out any 3 proto suits and the tank needed plus the core and sort out any of the weapons i like and proto stomp till the end of time since its alot cheaper than being a vehicle pilot

For any AV which is knee deep in the AV weapon and its suit, its tough **** CCP has basically said

For any FG they need the heavy suit, some enjoy the FG and if its gets nerfed in 1.7 they may want out but also out of the heavy suit since you need it to wield the weapon, the HMG is sub par in comparision to the AR so that leaves you with no weapons and you stuck in a suit you dont like which will gather dust until it becomes useful again

The SL is normally put on the fave assault suit generally with AV nades, the weapons have changed so they may also want out to put back into another weapon instead or suit

The respec is all one way, currently advantage pilots and we could easily flood into infantry and not bother about vehicles again because we can skill into at least 2/3 proto suits with a proto weapons and mods to boot because that SP is free and we are not forced to spend it into a certain path

So really everyone should get a full respec because some may want to try out vehicles now, they may look at 1.7 and think that finally vehicles maybe useful and fun and not just moving coffins and get out of infantry while players who want out of vehicles get the chance to do just that while the other half have to grind about 10mil more SP so they can get into it because no respec for you

Hell CCP just give everyone as full respec as a early xmas present, i can deal with that

Is this all you do?
Have you ever thought about being positive for a change?

Well they did increase the SP sink

At 20mil i was capped out with my vehicles, now they increased it by a factor of 3 so i need 60mil

I held 8mil spare for pilot suits which never turned up

Vehicles get a respec but now the investment that i currently put in isnt enough anymore

Just say if they did the same to medium suits and they increase the SP mulitplier to a x16 and the current SP you have only lets you get a basic for example, would you be happy?

hell no which is why im frustrated with not getting a full respec. they did this before when went from open beta to uprising. i was maxed out in tanks, then they increased the sp sink and respecced us. now theyre doing it again.

thing is though, if you look at the trend CCP has had with vehicles, it doesnt look good.

from open beta to uprising, we lost our PG skill (good riddance to CCP Blam!) and marauder tanks while suffering an increased SP sink.

now were going from uprising to 1.7 with all specialized vehicles except the assault dropships being removed and replaced with standard level vehicles while suffering another increased SP sink.

its almost like being set back to square one every few months... like they did in "beta"

AV and nerf don't usually fit together in the same sentence. It's not a nerf, it's an adjustment to match the new vehicle mechanics. AV would be completely op towards new vehicles if it was not toned down a bit.

And yet from what I hear, the forge gun is not being changed. (I need a new emoticon: laughing while sobbing)