Its not the all Logi's, its the ones who are using the armor repair bonus so they can fit more armor. The Logi suit has a repair bonus plus more slots make it at the moment a better suit for playing assault. The problem is I like most who play assault are tired of losing to a tanked logi as I am sure most heavies are too. Its a sad fact you go toe to toe with a logi and you still lose, why they can stack a ridiculous amount of armor and do not have to worry about using a amor repair module as a assault does.


Example:

Proto Gal Logi

3 High 5 Lows

3 complex shield or 3 Complex damage mods

5 Advance Armor

1 Duvolle or Cartham ScR
(Plenty of CPU/PG to fit all equipment the negative they are slow)

Proto Gal Assault

3 Highs 4 Lows

3 complex shield or 3 Complex damage mods

3 Advance armor plates/1 Complex Armor repair

1 Duvolle or Cartham ScR
(Little to no CPU/PG left)

This is the problem

Its not the all Logi's, its the ones who are using the armor repair bonus so they can fit more armor. The Logi suit has a repair bonus plus more slots make it at the moment a better suit for playing assault. The problem is I like most who play assault are tired of losing to a tanked logi as I am sure most heavies are too. Its a sad fact you go toe to toe with a logi and you still lose, why they can stack a ridiculous amount of armor and do not have to worry about using a amor repair module as a assault does.


Example:

Proto Gal Logi

3 High 5 Lows

3 complex shield or 3 Complex damage mods

5 Advance Armor

1 Duvolle or Cartham ScR
(Plenty of CPU/PG to fit all equipment the negative they are slow)

Proto Gal Assault

3 Highs 4 Lows

3 complex shield or 3 Complex damage mods

3 Advance armor plates/1 Complex Armor repair

1 Duvolle or Cartham ScR
(Little to no CPU/PG left)

This is the problem

Yes the assault has less HP but the Assault can strafe faster, can run faster, can move faster, can keep running for a longer period of time, would selfrepair faster and has access to a sidearm, that by common sense seems viable enough to be asubstitute for a light weapon.

By your logic Heavies must be super assaults as they can outtank any suit on the field and believe me correctly fitted they can be fast as well...

Assaults should not be stationary they should well assault that means moving and therefore the speed advantage helps them assaulting.

By the way it is not the problem of a suit that people don't take advantage of their siedearm to cover a weakness of their primary thats simply the fault of the player....

Don't be mad at the people who want to nerf your suit, be mad at the people who have exploited it to become the best killers in the game and say f*ck to helping out their teammates.

I was in a match tonight against 2 Logis, one had a Krin's the other, a Balac's. Do you think they revived, repped, or supplied any of there teammates? Talk to those people. Look at the 3rd guy on the leaderboard for the game (milkman1) and ask him if he really does anything Logi-like, or does he just spam nanohives all around him and killwhore?

How come you get to have all the slots, but Heavies, Assaults, and Scouts have to sacrifice?

People in this game cry nerf a lot, but then when the hammer comes around to them, they get quite selfish. Because it simply comes down to, nobody wants to be fair, they want their advantage and don't see a problem with it, so long as they are benefiting from it.


Truth be told, all the crying is useless. The game doesn't work, it's already deemed a failure, so balancing issues really don't matter at this point. The fact that CCP is still ever going along with this train wreck after 6 years should be all the reward any could ever hope for. Because eventually (soon, and not soonTM) DUST 514 is stop. And they'll simply remove it from the EvE Universe and chalk it up as a mistake. CCP isn't going to fund a losing entity for the fun of it.

If an assault player can't utilize it's sidearm for his/hers benefit then the assault player is not a real assault!

I have both suits and I find it much easier to get better KDR and more kills with assault suit cos of the sidearm.....

Don't be mad at the people who want to nerf your suit, be mad at the people who have exploited it to become the best killers in the game and say f*ck to helping out their teammates.

I was in a match tonight against 2 Logis, one had a Krin's the other, a Balac's. Do you think they revived, repped, or supplied any of there teammates? Talk to those people. Look at the 3rd guy on the leaderboard for the game (milkman1) and ask him if he really does anything Logi-like, or does he just spam nanohives all around him and killwhore?

How come you get to have all the slots, but Heavies, Assaults, and Scouts have to sacrifice?

People in this game cry nerf a lot, but then when the hammer comes around to them, they get quite selfish. Because it simply comes down to, nobody wants to be fair, they want their advantage and don't see a problem with it, so long as they are benefiting from it.


Truth be told, all the crying is useless. The game doesn't work, it's already deemed a failure, so balancing issues really don't matter at this point. The fact that CCP is still ever going along with this train wreck after 6 years should be all the reward any could ever hope for. Because eventually (soon, and not soonTM) DUST 514 is stop. And they'll simply remove it from the EvE Universe and chalk it up as a mistake. CCP isn't going to fund a losing entity for the fun of it.

To Mregomies

Whatever happens in future to logi suits. Please keep playing you did keep our squadleader alive.

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I placed what I placed as example. You can easily swap an armor mod for a stamina. Also a side arm is also available on an Amarr Logi. The slight difference in EhP between a logi and an assault can be made up easily in one of there extra slots. Sorry the logi has to many slots and this allows it more versatility than the assault.

I cant stand logis repping me in a gunfight... ffs they die faster if we both shoot, then repair. Logis get a lihht weapon slot for a reason.

What about we stop making this kind of "Nerf the Logis/Don't Nerf the Logis" threads?

If you are an assault why don't you start making some "Buff the Assaults" threads?

If you are a scout why don't you start making some "Buff the scouts" threads?

If you are a heavy why don't you start making some "Buff the heavies" threads?

Logi suits are not the problem, logi suits are fine, and logi suits don't need a nerf, it's all the other suits that need a buff.

What about we stop making this kind of "Nerf the Logis/Don't Nerf the Logis" threads?

If you are an assault why don't you start making some "Buff the Assaults" threads?

If you are a scout why don't you start making some "Buff the scouts" threads?

If you are a heavy why don't you start making some "Buff the heavies" threads?

Logi suits are not the problem, logi suits are fine, and logi suits don't need a nerf, it's all the other suits that need a buff.

What about we stop making this kind of "Nerf the Logis/Don't Nerf the Logis" threads?

If you are an assault why don't you start making some "Buff the Assaults" threads?

If you are a scout why don't you start making some "Buff the scouts" threads?

If you are a heavy why don't you start making some "Buff the heavies" threads?

Logi suits are not the problem, logi suits are fine, and logi suits don't need a nerf, it's all the other suits that need a buff.

What about we stop making this kind of "Nerf the Logis/Don't Nerf the Logis" threads?

If you are an assault why don't you start making some "Buff the Assaults" threads?

If you are a scout why don't you start making some "Buff the scouts" threads?

If you are a heavy why don't you start making some "Buff the heavies" threads?

Logi suits are not the problem, logi suits are fine, and logi suits don't need a nerf, it's all the other suits that need a buff.

I'm going to step in.

The Logistic suit is not a medic. It is also not an assault. It is not a scout. What could it be, you ask?

The Logistic suit was intended to be multi-purpose potential. It could be a medic, assault, scout, or whatever dastardly role that someone can think of. What was not intended to do was to out-preform every other suit that supposedly specializes in a role (such as Assault). That's the problem. It's "too good". It can be "too good" of an Assault.

"I bet you're a Caldari Logistic Proto user with Duvolle!"

Sorry. I'm a Logibro. A very hardcore one when the situation calls for it. I prefer to play an aggressive support role in the logistic suit instead of an assault one. My weapon is always standard. My equipment is usually advanced depending on the piece in question. I secure the spawns, patch the troops up, resupply their guns. I don't need a weapon; the people I logibro for are the ones that fire for me. That kill for me. That defend me as I defend them.