since theres alot of dumbass people who dont understand exactly what they are buying (not CCPs fault, its yours) im going to spell it out here


you can purchase AUR, and legally speaking thats the only legal purchase you can make.

this converts legal tender into a voucher type imaginary denomination that acts as a non refundable gift cirtificate.



now AUR is the legal puchase, and so everything in the law dealing with purchases will ALWAYS be in referance to the AUR you purchase. NOT the in game items you convert AUR to.


you can then "spend" AUR on in game items and functions as you wish, but this isnt isnt covered under any legal hokum as the purshase was already made for AUR, the rest is a game mechanic.


your AUR is CONVERTED into the form of an in-game item, and in the event that item disapears then its converted back into AUR, the thing you ACTUALLY paid for.

this type of "refund" is nessesary becuase what you paid for was the AUR, NOT the in game item. and WHY you bought the AUR has nothing to do with the legal rules surrounding that AUR purchase.



so no the only thing your entitled to is the AUR, BPOS that come in the AUR packs are bonuses, they technically have no native AUR value, and buying AUR for the bonus does not somehow negate the fact that what you purchased was teh AUR and not the bonus.



BPCs are a different matter to BPOs in that the AUR converted to them upon purchase expires once the item is destroyed in the game.

Ghosts Chance:

I only bought AUR because i wanted BPOs.
If they remove my BPO = FRAUD.

the legal purchase was for AUR, THATS what you legally purchased.


they diddnt remove AUR therefore not fraud

But my legal purchase was for AUR , and i BOUGHT AUR ,to get a BPO.NOTHING ELSE.


Its like Me going to USA, Changing my Country's Money into DOLLARS JUST to buy a PS4,got to the store,get the PS4, come back,open the box:
GÖªIts not a PS4 But a Polystation4
GÖªThe Store was owned by the people from the exchange bank.

Seems like fraud to me ....

its like you going to USA going into the store and buying a cirtificate (editing for clerity)

You get my point, English is not my native language and i lack the correct Lexicon for this type of discussions...

So you are telling me, that CCP showed me the BPO.
Convinced me to BUY AUR to BUY the BPO.
And then they REMOVE BPO.
And i get Stuck with AUR i dont have anything i want to buy with it.
CCP Will not pay me back my $.
And this is legal?

they showed you their giant store of options for what you could use store credit on, and upon uying store credit they made clear that the things in their store change over time and may not always be there, as well as new items boing made available over time.

hell you even got use of the product while it was available.

you specifically agreed to the terms of the alturnate currency before purchase, and they held up their end of that greement with the AUR refund.

you even agreed that AUR isnt refundable back into USD (or any other currency)

no breech of contract

permanant in the context as in that it is not consumable upon use in a fitting.

its a discription of its in game atribute, the BPO itself isnt a purchasable item.


you also agreed that you understood the terms of the contract. so weather or not you actually understand doesnt matter, you legally stated that you did. you lied, but thats not the point. technically by lieing and stating you understood you yourself breeched the contract.

I dont know a lot about LEGAL stuff so i dont know why im here discussing this with you.
Legal stuff is def. not my thing, im a simple Artist and i can barely understand money stuff as it is.

But i got to tell you, You are not required to be Law instructed or have Economic Prowess to be entitled to BUY stuff safely and with confidence,this should be provided by the company that is SEEKING FURTHER PURCHASES from their costumers.

Playing ''smart'' might make them feel smart and make some cash, but in the end, they'll ahve a game with 0 playerbase, and the smart one will be me for not spending any more time playing it...Im out.

lol...

youre the fool for trying to defend them...

bottom line its bad business, and its only a matter of time before they push a little further.

remember when they nerfed contact nades and aur cal logi suits....no one got a refund and now some peole have 1000 useless contact nades....

now they take some bpo's....

whats next?

when do they push past where you draw the line?

and why would you attack fellow players who are being cheated if you don't have any skin in the game.

my first impression of you is a very simple minded individual.

since theres alot of dumbass people who dont understand exactly what they are buying (not CCPs fault, its yours) im going to spell it out here


you can purchase AUR, and legally speaking thats the only legal purchase you can make.

this converts legal tender into a voucher type imaginary denomination that acts as a non refundable gift cirtificate.



now AUR is the legal puchase, and so everything in the law dealing with purchases will ALWAYS be in referance to the AUR you purchase. NOT the in game items you convert AUR to.


you can then "spend" AUR on in game items and functions as you wish, but this isnt isnt covered under any legal hokum as the purshase was already made for AUR, the rest is a game mechanic.


your AUR is CONVERTED into the form of an in-game item, and in the event that item disapears then its converted back into AUR, the thing you ACTUALLY paid for.

this type of "refund" is nessesary becuase what you paid for was the AUR, NOT the in game item. and WHY you bought the AUR has nothing to do with the legal rules surrounding that AUR purchase.



so no the only thing your entitled to is the AUR, BPOS that come in the AUR packs are bonuses, they technically have no native AUR value, and buying AUR for the bonus does not somehow negate the fact that what you purchased was teh AUR and not the bonus.



BPCs are a different matter to BPOs in that the AUR converted to them upon purchase expires once the item is destroyed in the game.


purchases of AUR are legal items to be goverened by real life regulations.

purchases using AUR for in game items are purchases govered by the EULA and CCP, and are not legally actionable, because thats what you purchased was an agreement with CCP

when you purchase AUR, what you are purchasing is an agreement with CCP in echange for legal tender. and all subsequant use of that agreement is defined BY that agreement you purc hased.


basic contract law, you purchased a contract and both partys are bound to that contract. it can only escalate to a legal matter if that contract is breached, wich in the case of BPO removal, the contract has not been breached by either party.

ignorance of the law does not exempt you from the law.

every tiem you agree to a contract the company has to provide you with a copy... AKA the EULA, not their fault you diddnt read the damn thing.

You would be surprised.
Even God forgives those who are ignorant.
And yes,in some cases ignorance might save you from the LAW.
And if i know this, you do too.There by you are not being completly honest with me here.....



Well they dont really care for people to read it , i mean its an INMENSE wall-o-text no one actually ever reads, and the sad part is; that THIS is the point of this kind of contracts.

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1st Lorhak Gannarsein said he could do the same than with BPO with ISK and it would be cheap.
SURE you are right, but i cant buy a STD Amarr Assault with White+ red and gold coloring now can i?

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2nd If CCP want to remove BPO then they should offer something that their costumers consider worth spending their AUR on, like in my case , SP RESPECS....

since theres alot of dumbass people who dont understand exactly what they are buying (not CCPs fault, its yours) im going to spell it out here


you can purchase AUR, and legally speaking thats the only legal purchase you can make.

this converts legal tender into a voucher type imaginary denomination that acts as a non refundable gift cirtificate.



now AUR is the legal puchase, and so everything in the law dealing with purchases will ALWAYS be in referance to the AUR you purchase. NOT the in game items you convert AUR to.


you can then "spend" AUR on in game items and functions as you wish, but this isnt isnt covered under any legal hokum as the purshase was already made for AUR, the rest is a game mechanic.


your AUR is CONVERTED into the form of an in-game item, and in the event that item disapears then its converted back into AUR, the thing you ACTUALLY paid for.

this type of "refund" is nessesary becuase what you paid for was the AUR, NOT the in game item. and WHY you bought the AUR has nothing to do with the legal rules surrounding that AUR purchase.



so no the only thing your entitled to is the AUR, BPOS that come in the AUR packs are bonuses, they technically have no native AUR value, and buying AUR for the bonus does not somehow negate the fact that what you purchased was teh AUR and not the bonus.



BPCs are a different matter to BPOs in that the AUR converted to them upon purchase expires once the item is destroyed in the game.


purchases of AUR are legal items to be goverened by real life regulations.

purchases using AUR for in game items are purchases govered by the EULA and CCP, and are not legally actionable, because thats what you purchased was an agreement with CCP

when you purchase AUR, what you are purchasing is an agreement with CCP in echange for legal tender. and all subsequant use of that agreement is defined BY that agreement you purc hased.


basic contract law, you purchased a contract and both partys are bound to that contract. it can only escalate to a legal matter if that contract is breached, wich in the case of BPO removal, the contract has not been breached by either party.

god does not exsist. the law does.... and god cannot exempt the laws of man.

yeah let's all stand up from our sofas and start rioting! Setting thrash cans and **** on fire! kicking our TVs to Dust! that will show 'em!


seriously. Get a real life.
yes it sucks that ccp is going to take some bpos away. and yes I will feel this to, but honestly, I dont give ****. Its a game. if ccp decides bpos are hurting the economies, which they indeed do if you think about it, its their choice.

once again: nobody forces you to play this game, and nobody wants to hear you cry like a small girl who fell of her bike.


It's not unfair, they are not violating your customer rights, they just do what they think is the best for this game. And if you would not think only abput your own advantage you might even would see this. Dust will always be evolving, its an everchqnging service, thats what makes dust dust and not call of battlefield:rezurrection part 20.

Nothing in this universe will ever be set in stone, get used to it. the faster you do, the faster you can concentrate on other more serious aspects of this game, for example the fun you should get out of a VIDEOGAME.

done editing the first post for more clerity and an "explain like im 5" format

the legal purchase was for AUR, THATS what you legally purchased.


they diddnt remove AUR therefore not fraud

No they are removing the purchase choise and leaving no satisfactor purchase alternative, after they got you to spend your money. Very underhanded.

its not a purchase, becuase CCP doesnt sell anything.

and satisfactory is SUBJECTIVE and has no legal definition, no way to define it other then "i personally dont like it" wich isnt reasonable.

you could jsut as easily say absolutly nothing is satisfactory otherwise.