Yeh, frankly I don't see CCP not doing this. It's a simple and standard FPS mechanic. Each shot that is fired has a degree of climb for the muzzle of the gun. They can get more fancy by including a smaller random left/right degree of movement per shot. To put the cheery on the cake they could have a increased level of recoil for the first shot to simulate the operator having to set themselves into the initial recoil.

They have to do the basic though, as you've laid out. I don't see any other workable options.

It would be nice if that one single equation would work for all weapons. Unfortunately, it can't and won't.

There are better solutions to this problem.

Name one.

Giving each weapon its own specific amount of barrel climb. Giving them barrel climb based on damage alone would not only be somewhat silly, it would kill variety.

I don't see what is silly about have the degree of climb per shot dependent on the shot damage. More damage equals more recoil equals more muzzle climb!!! It's a very simple rule both in real life and is used in most FPS games. Certain weapons will have less climb firing the same bullet dealing the same recoil as another weapon due to a difference in design.

More damage does not always equal more recoil, and more recoil does not always equal more barrel climb. Different weapons have different ratios. Minmatar weapons would likely have a higher recoil to damage ratio, and heavier weapons are less affected by a similar amount of recoil than small weapons. Secondly, would this really work for HMGs? Poor HMGs. Can you imagine that ridiculous barrel climb? Keep in mind that the HMGs are designed for continuous fire.

Also, congratulations on agreeing with me, dumbarse. You fail at arguments.

Giving each weapon its own specific amount of barrel climb. Giving them barrel climb based on damage alone would not only be somewhat silly, it would kill variety.

This would make the sniper rifles worthless. It takes 3-5 shots with a proto sniper to score a kill. Getting that many rounds to hit a target already takes work, determination, and in part a idiot red dot.

Skilled weapons are not and have not been the issue and this should not apply to them. To start fixing weapons, let's start with making each weapon only work well in a limited range. Med long range should not work well in cqc or long ranges (laser tacs and scr with horrible hip fire and reduced damage outside there range). Then from there, take the weapons with automatic fire and give them real kick starting from the time the first round is fired.

To help combat modded controls, make the recoil have a cool down bar like heat weapons. You still can fire the weapon,but the kick level would be equal to how full the bar is. Obviously the kick bar would have a much faster cool down to make the weapon not worthless.

This is already implemented in a form, or at least I believe it to be.

I believe that the Higher end AR's have not only more recoil, but more dispersion. I cannot prove it. Though, I feel like this is true.

Accroding to the weapon's stats the higher level (and higher damage) weapons have greater accuracy (which is the stat that controls dispersion) than lower level gear.

More damage does not always equal more recoil, and more recoil does not always equal more barrel climb. Different weapons have different ratios. Minmatar weapons would likely have a higher recoil to damage ratio, and heavier weapons are less affected by a similar amount of recoil than small weapons. Secondly, would this really work for HMGs? Poor HMGs. Can you imagine that ridiculous barrel climb? Keep in mind that the HMGs are designed for continuous fire.

Also, congratulations on agreeing with me, dumbarse. You fail at arguments.

This is already implemented in a form, or at least I believe it to be.

I believe that the Higher end AR's have not only more recoil, but more dispersion. I cannot prove it. Though, I feel like this is true.

I just checked the math on how this would affect the HMG and for the highest damage varient (the boundless) it would climb .198 degrees per round which comes out to 84 degrees for the entire mag.

The fact is though that this still would make the game fun and would only be penalizing total idiots. No one but a fool empties an entire mag from a HMG in a single burst and doing so should incur a huge amount of barrel climb.

When you go a bit farther with the math though you'll see that the HMG which fires about 33 rounds per second would only be getting 6-¦ of barrel climb per second. That is nothing and a good player will easily be able to compensate with a light touch on the left analogue stick.

I am willing to say though that the HMG might be the exception to my "no racial variants" statement from earlier. The HMG is a massive weapon which should have built in recoil compensators and should have less climb than the formula is giving it. Adding a .75 multiplier would be a great way to deal with this. Alternately a skill could be added from the HMG called recoil compensation which could reduce the climb by 5% per level, effectively doing the same thing but making the heavy a bit more sp intensive.