Tanks will be all good when we have maps where infantry can avoid the tanks unless having to cross open areas to other sites. As it is now, you are easy prey with very few areas where you can escape from the tank.

I fully understand infantry getting mad at the tankers, the tankers can instant kill all infantry within range while the infantry has very few areas where they can hide. The tankers have destroyed all supply depots which prevents anyone from chaning to AV and later from AV back to infantry. Who would spawn in a 100k isk AV suit that would be rendered almost useless after the tanker have recalled his tank and only infantry are left on the battlefield and no supply depots.

Add more safe urban areas and supply depots within buildings that are unreachable by the tankers.

Have the tankers roam around in the open areas with AV doing less damage.

Have smaller scale combat infantry vs infantry withing the sites and larger scale battlers in the open areas between tankers, dropships etc trying to transport personel safely from one site to the other.

Please be real, all the tankers, or close to 90% destroy every single installation at the very beginning of the match. Even the yellow ones close to your own starter area before any team member gets the chance to hack it.

If it can be hacked, it's a threat to our survival. If you would were in something worth a million ISK, you'd remove any potential threats too.

Tankers are not the only problem. I have also observed Swarmers destroying depots to get the warpoints. This is a general issue which decreases the dynamic of the flow of the combat. You are screwed if your team spawn without AV and the opposite call in a tank.

Again, face it, infantry is generally stupid. Half the time they don't understand what they're doing. Those that do know, understand, and are trying to create favorable conditions for their team to advance on an objective and take it. Why do you make it sound like it's not fair if your enemy spawns in 2 tanks and nobody on your team has AV yet? Should those enemy tankers wait for your team to get AV, then try to move in and help their own team? That's suicidal.


Only way to circumvent this is to die and spawn with AV. Lets say 5 team members independent decides to spawn with swarmers, you will then have the tanker recall his tank and have 5 useless swarmers on the team, which again have to die to swap back to infantry combat.

I really don't see the problem with that, because a tanker created favorable conditions for his team to advance on an objective. If you can't see the logic in that, then you may as well stop gaming.

And I also have a heavy with a forgegun, this at least are semiusefull against infantry. Try to be a slow heavy with only a SMG as weapon, might as well waddle back and hide behind the redline to avoid the cost of your death, few forge gunners survive long in close combat.

I've beat heavies in my own heavy suit with a Toxin SMG, no skill points into it at all. I have an SMG on all my heavy suits. It's stupid not to have it. If you don't carry one, that's your own fault, and tank balance shouldn't be determined by someone's failure to be ready for every situation.

Please give me a chance here, I am actually on your side, saying AV should do less damage to your tanks if the infantry get a fair chance to be able to avoid the tanks. Is this not what you all are wishing for, tank battles and not tanks vs infantry? Lets have open areas and tanks that are only destroyable by other tanks.

But you have absolutely terrible arguments that don't really help.

Infantry need a save area, a place they can call in a tank to fight the existing tanks without getting snipped or see the RDV and tank get blown up by a red railtank from across the map.

Safe area? It's called a building, or a friendly tank.

You have an interesting opinion on balance. Balance usually uses a rock, scissor and paper model to avoid unbalanced gameplay. Regarding Vehicles vs Infantry this translates to Tank > Infantry > AV Infantry > Tanks. Thats called balance.

You want Tank > Tank > Everything else. This IS a problem especially in a first person shooter.

And really back in Chromosome most tankers had gone for infantry and easy kills not for other tankers hell I saw tankers hiding in the redline as soon as another tank showed on the map because they were afraid of loosing their tank.

And this behaviour will not change and I highly doubt that you see many tank battles what you will see is tankers going again after infantry and farming kills/installations and maybe a small friction of tankers that enjoy tank battles but I am sure the majority will simply go after infantry for easy success

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You wondered why everyone hates tanks, I gave you an explanation and possible solution, I have read many of you complain about missing tank combat. You want it to continue as it is to today but with tougher tanks. I am sure infantry will just love you tankers.....

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Very few would call in railtanks as AV blaster tanks unless it is on the old maps where you could railsnipe. Calling in a rail tank to destroy another high end blaster tank for a few warpoints is a high risc low reward action. The railtank are almost defenseless against infantry and useless as soon as there no longer is any red vehicles available.

You could still pick off infantry with a railgun, if you're good enough. What's this only a few WP? If there's a defend on you as a tank, you get 180WP for destroying the tank itself, not including the kills for those inside it. It's not high risk at all. If the blaster tank is towards your end of the map, there's very little risk at all because you deploy it, destroy the tank, then go back and recall it if you want. As I said, those people that are very good can actually fight infantry with a railgun in CQC.

Give infantry a chance to avoid the tanks, decrease AV damage and it would be a bigger incentive to call in the rail tank. The risc would be lower of getting swarmed by AV infantry and you have the paper vs the rock which is the blaster tank. The risc is low and the reward continues to be low. The blaster tank on the other hand have medium risc and medium rewards fighting other tanks, LAVs and the few infantry trying to cover open areas on foot to other sites.

So let me get this straight.................. I should give infantry a chance to avoid me????????? That literally doesn't make sense. Maybe I should tell you to stand out in the open to get the attention of snipers so they don't hit the rest of your team. Maybe I should tell you to wait until that bleeding out merc has 3 more seconds until you can run to him to try to rez him. Does that make any sense at all? Who are you to tell me how to tank? There's literally no risk of calling in a rail tank if you know what you're doing. Blaster tanks carry a huge, huge risk with them. You just don't know that because you don't tank.

As scout I do not find tanks that big a problem today, I can easily avoid them. But being a slower logi staying with the blob I usually end up getting flanked by infantry and a tank.

You make it sound like you resent tankers using their brains and flanking you. Can't have intelligent tankers, nerf thinking.