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Harpyja
Royal Uhlans
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.11.20 02:50:00 -
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I came to notice a few posts that had wrong math for calculating EHP, so I decided that I'd make this short thread to clear up any confusion that might be out there on how EHP is calculated.
EHP - stands for effective hit-points. This number incorporates resistances with raw hit-point values.
How to Calculate
It's rather simple!
EHP = ( HP / damage multiplier )
HP - can be either shield, armor, or total
damage multiplier - how much damage is inflicted from base damage
Note: if you want total EHP, you should add together the EHP values for shield and armor, because both have different damage multipliers
Proof
Example 1:
Let's say that we have 1000 HP and our resistances are 0% (or alternatively said, a damage multiplier of 1)
According to the formula, we get:
EHP = 1000 / 1 = 1000.
This makes sense because we expect to have to deal 1000 damage if there are zero resists.
Example 2:
We still have 1000 HP, but this time a weapon gets a damage bonus of 100% towards our hit-points (or alternatively said, a damage multiplier of 2).
According to the formula, we get:
EHP = 1000 / 2 = 500.
This also makes sense because we expect to deal half as much damage since damage is doubled.
Example 3:
Again, we have 1000 HP. However, we have 50% resistances against an un-bonused weapon (or a damage multiplier of .5)
According to the formula, we get:
EHP = 1000 / .5 = 2000
Once again, this makes sense because since damage effectiveness is cut in half, we should expect to have to deal twice as much damage than normal.
If we go to an extreme and say that resistances approach 100%, then EHP approaches infinity. Using the formula, we take the limit as the damage multiplier goes to zero. For those that don't know what this means, it's the same as doing 1000 / .00....001, and dividing anything by something that's almost zero gives us infinity.
Of course, game mechanics provide us with a hard cap at 95% resistances so that unkillable fits can never be created. One should also notice that EHP increases exponentially as resistances increase linearly. Adding more resists increases the gains on the EHP value. However, the stacking penalties provide each additional resistance module with diminishing returns, so EHP values do not increase exponentially when module count increases linearly, or at least not as dramatically.
"By His light, and His will"
- The Scriptures, Gheinok the First, 12:32
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Zekain K
Expert Intervention
Caldari State
504
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Posted - 2013.11.20 03:27:00 -
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My brain hurts. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
4174
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Posted - 2013.11.20 03:28:00 -
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Wish dust had the tool eve has that tells you the EHP
"All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
1171
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Posted - 2013.11.20 03:34:00 -
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Filing this under helpful information.
Right next to Judge Rhadamanthus and CEOPyrex's tutorial videos.
And directly behind the tips and tricks section from the Learning Coalition.
Check out my corp's new website here :D
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
503
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Posted - 2013.11.20 03:41:00 -
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This is very good information.
Personally i view my EHP value in simpler terms of 1 bullet or 2 bullets, that's about how much I have.
I am apparently not the only fool
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Harpyja
Royal Uhlans
Amarr Empire
790
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Posted - 2013.11.20 03:42:00 -
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Llast 326 wrote:This is very good information.
Personally i view my EHP value in simpler terms of 1 bullet or 2 bullets, that's about how much I have.
Which you can easily do by taking EHP divided by damage per shot, which tells you how many shots of that much damage you can take.
"By His light, and His will"
- The Scriptures, Gheinok the First, 12:32
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Roger Cordill
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.11.20 04:05:00 -
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Message from Godin: This isn't common knowledge? damn...... |
Vulpes Dolosus
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
301
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Posted - 2013.11.20 04:16:00 -
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TL;DR- 12k EHP PYTHONS!!!
Dropship Specialist: AKA Clinically Insane
Kills- Incubus: 2; Pythons: 0; Logistics: 0; Militia: 10
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Harpyja
Royal Uhlans
Amarr Empire
793
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Posted - 2013.11.20 04:20:00 -
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Vulpes Dolosus wrote:TL;DR- 12k EHP PYTHONS!!!
Unfortunately if a railgun with a damage amp gets its alpha strike before you kick up your hardeners, your shields will be gone 
"By His light, and His will"
- The Scriptures, Gheinok the First, 12:32
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
10415
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Posted - 2013.11.20 04:23:00 -
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Next up EHP calculations with resistances thrown in VS damage effectiveness
CPM 0 Secretary
Omni-Soldier Specialist
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
The dyst0pian Corporation
Zero-Day
100
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Posted - 2013.11.20 04:28:00 -
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Harpyja wrote:Vulpes Dolosus wrote:TL;DR- 12k EHP PYTHONS!!! Unfortunately if a railgun with a damage amp gets its alpha strike before you kick up your hardeners, your shields will be gone
damm dat op-ness
thats what we have now, squishy vehicles, nothing should 1 shot anything
recuruit link
5 to 11 mil isk per 100k recuruit
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Vulpes Dolosus
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
301
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Posted - 2013.11.20 04:35:00 -
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jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Harpyja wrote:Vulpes Dolosus wrote:TL;DR- 12k EHP PYTHONS!!! Unfortunately if a railgun with a damage amp gets its alpha strike before you kick up your hardeners, your shields will be gone damm dat op-ness thats what we have now, squishy vehicles, nothing should 1 shot anything
I only call vehicles in my redline, usually behind cover. With this fit, it's possible to always have a hardener running with only 15sec of cool down (during which I will be well up in the sky or behind cover).
Those cowardly rail tankers, it's not hard to deal with them. Then all I have to do is switch to a rail turret myself and snipe them from above. As soon as they take damage, they'll run like a little girl from a wasp!
I kind of feel bad for them, AV nerfs, active tanking buffs, and they'll still just hide behind the redline because they're afraid of losing 'a million isk vehicle,' shooting at my comparably priced dropship that I risk virtually every game. They're a disgrace to pilots of all vehicles.
Dropship Specialist: AKA Clinically Insane
Kills- Incubus: 2; Pythons: 0; Logistics: 0; Militia: 10
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