Frankly OP AV can go suck on a lemon

Over 6months of nerfs vehicle pilots have had to endure, each time the pilots who have stuck around have adapted and changed and adapated and changed and adapated each time

1st time AV has had a nerf in over 6months and they are already giving up and skilling out when he next respec comes, they dont want to adapt and overcome and frankly the majority cant anyways because they are idiots and want a fire and forget weapon which requires no skill

If you give its dumbfire back that means they have to aim and count for missile travel time, or they will spam it onto infantry like last time and infantry cries again, as for it taking out LAVs they wont like that they want to kill tanks with no effort

Balanced according to infantry means AV not existing at all.

You said yourself that you want Tanks to be the best and only way to destroy tanks. Your opinions are not valid here.

You are aware you have just asked for tanks to become the very definition of an OverPowered weapon.

An overpowered weapon is where 1 weapon is so much more effective than any other weapon that the only way to combat it in 1v1 fights is to weild it.

You have offically damned your case forever, real tankers will suffer because of that statememt, more nerf to tanks will now rest squarely on your shoulders. This is not a game where you Spkr4theDead will never enjoy tanking!!

I had many threads where he said something like that, but I usually have trouble finding them.

I just took a screenshot of that. It's never going away now

I've always hated nerfs and in this case it looked like it was getting nerfed into the ground.
my opinion on why the nerf is happening

but even inventing a reason for the nerf I still feel like you give some you should get some. so how bout we give swarms dumbfire back? dumbfire was never terribly effective especially at range so I don't see a problem with giving it back. when it was an anti tank weapon I could sort of see dumbfire was removed. looking at it's new stats killing anything with it is gonna be a pain.

signed AV's favorite tanker <3

PS: why isn't this in feedback/request? because I'm not sure i wanna suggest or request it yet as nobody outside ccp has used the new swarm.

Good tankers are still able to survive PRO AV.

Actually, we had lock nerfs not too long ago.

Make a video of you soloing a good HAV and good pilot and then tell me how easy it is.

Go on, I'm waiting.

Lock nerf? you means being able to fire all 3 volleys in 3seconds? quite a buff

You can wait forever, like im going to get a capture device to prove a point which has already been made countless times before

Well why don't you just find one then? You can make a point till the cows come home but if you can't prove it, who's gonna listen?

It would be just easier if you played PC and find out 1st hand

I have,I see tankers barrel through at god knows what speed butchering scores of infantry, but of course you would never know would you?

Ive prob played more PC than you tbh and it sounds like you were against duni or something with milita av because i know for a fact against any decent enemies proto AV is out in full force to shut you down

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you wanna kitten about each other do it in the war room.
the op was simple

the nerf to swarm is too extreme to make it a viable anti tank weapon
good tankers are like "knight you scrub they were never any good"
so then we agree.
AV is like "oh knows tank 514!!!!"
so then we agree.

I proposed a token gesture add a variant or simply remove mandatory lock on all together. because I don't think a nerf should come without a buff

dicuss that, not who's the bigger kitten if you'd be so kind.

miowe

Sorry couldn't help myself. Like I said, I don't see why it need both damage and range nerfed.

If they had left the damage, the range would make for an interesting mechanic, I think we would see more av specialist commando suits running WITH squads.

If they had left the range, Swarms would become more of a harassment weapon, that would be used to force HAVs to bug out, not kill them.

As for an eye for an eye buff, dumbfire isn't the way to go. They took it out with good reason,with the exception of HROF rifles we are starting to a semblance of balance. I don't think adding a semi-auto burst mass driver, with anti-vehicle power magnitudes would help.

If they were to add on a variation that was a designated anti-infantry, thus possessing much less power, it would be acceptable.However really I think the thing they need to to swarms, is reduce damage per rocket by 75% but increase number of rockets per swarm by 4

Make me feel like I'm firing a swarm, an actual SWARM!

it's not an eye for an eye, the swarm was nerfed for a reason, I suggested dumbfire so you guys wouldn't be totally helpless with it out.

I've always hated nerfs and in this case it looked like it was getting nerfed into the ground.
my opinion on why the nerf is happening

but even inventing a reason for the nerf I still feel like you give some you should get some. so how bout we give swarms dumbfire back? dumbfire was never terribly effective especially at range so I don't see a problem with giving it back. when it was an anti tank weapon I could sort of see dumbfire was removed. looking at it's new stats killing anything with it is gonna be a pain.

signed AV's favorite tanker <3

PS: why isn't this in feedback/request? because I'm not sure i wanna suggest or request it yet as nobody outside ccp has used the new swarm.

I used to be worried about the swarms getting nerfed in 1.7

Then I remembered that its a few days until Black Friday.
Games on my to do list: Kingdoms of Amalur. Tomb Raider reboot, The Last of Us, Beyond, Far Cry 3, AC, Batman, Gran Turismo 6, Diablo 3, Dark Souls, Payday, Saints Row, GTA V, Killzone: Shadowfall,

So I guess by May ? then maybe? I may be worried about it but by then its sorry Dust 514 theres still more games arriving...lol.

So I guess Dust 514 playtime will be check in once a month to see if anythings fixed or stll goofed up??

I.e. last year we waited months for new content:

Dev1 umm whats the forums like??
Dev2 theres endless threads asking about new maps, new weapons, new vehicles and they have thousands of likes.

Dev1 meh! what else is there??
Dev2 theres a single forum thread with two likes asking about new supply depos.

Dev1 holy mother of code sourced kittens!! get on those new supply depos!!

And we got a cosmetic makeover for supply depos since that was a "hot" forum topic....lol!!!!!!!!

Frankly OP AV can go suck on a lemon

Over 6months of nerfs vehicle pilots have had to endure, each time the pilots who have stuck around have adapted and changed and adapated and changed and adapated each time

1st time AV has had a nerf in over 6months and they are already giving up and skilling out when he next respec comes, they dont want to adapt and overcome and frankly the majority cant anyways because they are idiots and want a fire and forget weapon which requires no skill

If you give its dumbfire back that means they have to aim and count for missile travel time, or they will spam it onto infantry like last time and infantry cries again, as for it taking out LAVs they wont like that they want to kill tanks with no effort