Work on those bonuses then. The Logistics wide bonus is nice, but the new individual ones make some weak links. Hacking, for example, is almost useless in two of three game modes so Minmatar would be right out. Amarr have limited equips already, so giving them further reductions to the Scout-type equipment is nice but having lost their tank bonus to the Gallente it is far from good. The Cal and Gal Logi both have survivability bonuses, good in every situation.

So your idea is to take a class that is designed on the idea of trading base stats and offensive capabilities for equipment and customization instead of completely ignoring the core issues that make anything other than shield extenders and armor plates completely useless? Ask yourself a serous question, would you put 5 levels into any of those 4 logistics suits?

There's no facts, just a bunch of people sitting back and playing armchair developer, looking at spread sheets and pretending they know everything. With your proposed changes, nobody would play logistics, including the ones that play it to support their team. It completely destroys any survivability the suit needs to help their team on the front lines.

You call it a crutch. Maybe it is for those that wish to abuse the class. But most of the hubbub out there refers to the so-called "Assault' Logi. But instead of addressing the real issue, it is 'cut off the head of all Logis' to cure the cancer. That is beyond foolish.

The key to pushing Logistics back to where it was intended is not about nerfing the suit, it is about enhancing Assault to a place that makes it the preferred platform for frontline combat. Give it the bonuses it deserves to fight the good fight and make modules like Damages Mods, less effective to keep them the premiere warfighter.

Weak Logi does not equal balance or even strong Assault. It just equals weak support for all classes. And every team is only as strong as the weakest link.

#ThinkAboutIt

Fact, you're simply using bold text, ad hominem, and anecdotal observations to sell an argument. You're not the first one to do this because they disagree with me but others did a better job. You want to talk facts, show me some hard supported data. If you want to use power text and imaginary numbers, you're wasting my time.

No matter how much you shamelessly promote that topic, it's still a heavy handed nerf to people that do play logistics to support their team just because one suit is overpowered due to broken core mechanics. Remember when shields > armor and the CaLogi was OP? Now it's armor > shields and the GaLogi is the OP one. It's not the slots, it's imbalanced game mechanics.

Not even the OP decided to use facts. Hell, there's only one person out of this entire topic that decided to break it down, but not even the OP, of whom the post was directed at decided to respond. You want facts? This topic is just another virtual lynch mob like the many before it.

Where are you getting this imaginary DPS from? Does a logi suit have some hidden damage bonus that I don't know about? Oh, you must mean damage mods. Since every suit has access to damage mods and stacking penalties only make them so useful after a certain amount, you point is moot.

Still only going to survive a 1v1 encounter, maybe 2 if you have enough time to use up those compact hives. .