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Vrain Matari ZionTCD Public Disorder. 1243	Posted - 2013.11.17 03:38:00 - [1] - Quote Nice post, Oswald Rehnquist. The pressure applied to DUST to push it down the Skyrim path is incessant. Those of us who wanted a darker, more ruthless world have been fighting against it from the beginning. One of the things that has made the struggle harder is that it seems like CCP have been unsure of themselves here. Maybe new genre, new market, new platform, change of engines, a rushed scramble to re-develop, low player numbers, culture clash from their playerbase, rocky reviews, damage control, new studio, staff changes, etc....has shaken their confidence. Whereas in EVE requests to McDonaldsize would be met with the maniacal laughter of uncaring viking gods, in DUST there is a curious absence of response to the demands for pablum and spoonfeeding. Perhaps even a softness born from the rapacious soul of marketing. My feeling is that once the mechanics are better than 'ok', once we've got the vehicle/suit/weapon/equipment lineups in place and balancing has been hammered out, once the full suite of corp and communication tools are implemented, once our game modes are able to hold player interest, once the NPE is not absolute hell, and once player retention is healthy.....we will get our old CCP back. If DUST is going to be like EVE in terms of the harsh way personal errors are penalized, then we can never expect a retention rate higher than ~5%. To me that's ok, because it's a big market, and the peeps we want in DUST are the alpha predators. I support SP rollover.
Vrain Matari ZionTCD Public Disorder. 1244	Posted - 2013.11.17 03:50:00 - [2] - Quote Surt gods end wrote: Again FPS= gladiator sports. I remember something I told gimble. From what I've seen being here since closed beta, Players with mmo background find dust a little easier to swallow. where fps choke on it. Too "hard core?" lol no. Socom and arma will say something about hard core. Now hard core as in a second job kind of way? then yes. FPS is about the competition. Not the punching in to work. A lot of truth here. I'm hoping that when we've got our kittenpoop together the market/player contract system can alleviate the 'punching into work' syndrome a lot. Also hoping that when we start expanding out gamemodes for nullsec we can get something more hardcore going on. I support SP rollover.
Vrain Matari ZionTCD Public Disorder. 1246	Posted - 2013.11.17 06:00:00 - [3] - Quote Killar-12 wrote: Thor McStrut wrote: Just skimming through your post, you seem spot on. Yes, the younger nature of console shooters brings with it the less patient, more whiny, entitled crowd. I know that doesn't apply to everyone, but it's close enough. I do think that New Eden is too harsh for the average console shooter. I do believe CCP needs to keep it this way, and go for the cultist following, as you put it. It will grow, just not as quick as the others FPS dominating franchises. I agree, this is a good thing. Yes cult classic BURN THE COD PLAYER BURN HIM NOW! Lol. Sounds like a Minmatar ritual to me. I'm betting most of those COD players are Amarr, anyway. I support SP rollover.

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