DUST Search - Should we have a Basic lobby?

Takahiro Kashuken wrote:

We are seeing more and more threads about proto stomping in pubs

Frankly its no suprise, PC is crap and FW isnt any better and until they are revamped and have less lag and alot better framrate (looking at you PC) then most corps will be in pubs stomipng on all players because they have the ISK/SP to do it and nothing else to do

Only way we can prevent this is by having a basic room, meta items 1-3 only, no AUR items either

The room would be random game modes of domination/skirmish and ambush

Mainly it would be there to stop proto stomping or even advanced stomping, it wouldnt stop those with high SP from going in or even 6man groups but it is a more level playing field and also 1 room deals with the very low player count

It would help with the new players if there are any left since you can leave the academy very quickly and not learn a damn thing since the WP total is way too low, 1200WP it should be more of 25000 at least

Also could be fun for high SP players in 6man groups, more of a challenge with basic items and lower tank and abilities

Would anyone want a basic only room?

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Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 1675	Posted - 2013.11.16 13:59:00 - [1] - Quote We are seeing more and more threads about proto stomping in pubs Frankly its no suprise, PC is crap and FW isnt any better and until they are revamped and have less lag and alot better framrate (looking at you PC) then most corps will be in pubs stomipng on all players because they have the ISK/SP to do it and nothing else to do Only way we can prevent this is by having a basic room, meta items 1-3 only, no AUR items either The room would be random game modes of domination/skirmish and ambush Mainly it would be there to stop proto stomping or even advanced stomping, it wouldnt stop those with high SP from going in or even 6man groups but it is a more level playing field and also 1 room deals with the very low player count It would help with the new players if there are any left since you can leave the academy very quickly and not learn a damn thing since the WP total is way too low, 1200WP it should be more of 25000 at least Also could be fun for high SP players in 6man groups, more of a challenge with basic items and lower tank and abilities Would anyone want a basic only room?
Sigberct Amni Goonfeet Top Men. 185	Posted - 2013.11.16 14:06:00 - [2] - Quote I'd have fun in it.
Kasote Denzara A Vulture 792	Posted - 2013.11.16 14:07:00 - [3] - Quote No. Meta-based matchmaking is the answer. "I am a mercenary, I do as I need. I'll shed Amarrian blood for the freedom of my Minmitar allies but only for a price."
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 1675	Posted - 2013.11.16 14:15:00 - [4] - Quote Kasote Denzara wrote: No. Meta-based matchmaking is the answer. Thats what it is Meta 1-3 is basic but we dont have the numbers to do meta based matchmaking across the board since we are under 4k active
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc. 1421	Posted - 2013.11.16 14:51:00 - [5] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: We are seeing more and more threads about proto stomping in pubs Frankly its no suprise, PC is crap and FW isnt any better and until they are revamped and have less lag and alot better framrate (looking at you PC) then most corps will be in pubs stomipng on all players because they have the ISK/SP to do it and nothing else to do Only way we can prevent this is by having a basic room, meta items 1-3 only, no AUR items either The room would be random game modes of domination/skirmish and ambush Mainly it would be there to stop proto stomping or even advanced stomping, it wouldnt stop those with high SP from going in or even 6man groups but it is a more level playing field and also 1 room deals with the very low player count It would help with the new players if there are any left since you can leave the academy very quickly and not learn a damn thing since the WP total is way too low, 1200WP it should be more of 25000 at least Also could be fun for high SP players in 6man groups, more of a challenge with basic items and lower tank and abilities Would anyone want a basic only room? This would be so much fun Level 1 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. Fix PC lag please CCP.
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc. 1421	Posted - 2013.11.16 14:52:00 - [6] - Quote Kasote Denzara wrote: No. Meta-based matchmaking is the answer. Lol Level 1 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. Fix PC lag please CCP.
Hellkeizer The Avutora Complex 193	Posted - 2013.11.16 15:21:00 - [7] - Quote Anything to help new players Waiting on PvE Balancing without core content is a fail "Don't chu go disrespecting coconut water!" Chakra Attack
We are 138 Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 432	Posted - 2013.11.16 15:27:00 - [8] - Quote yes. yes please
Fire of Prometheus DUST University Ivy League 1645	Posted - 2013.11.16 15:27:00 - [9] - Quote Would I be able to equip enhanced modules(ie. enhanced armour plates etc.)? Either way, I want in. +1 "It is the mark of an educated mind to entertain a thought without accepting it." -Aristotle I'll take your Iskies
Mossellia Delt Militaires Sans Jeux 627	Posted - 2013.11.16 15:43:00 - [10] - Quote Would love this, would show how **** most proto users are. Scout, Tanker, Dropship Pilot, AV'r Alts - Medrean Delt / Moselder Telend (Pure Innocence) / Mledean Delt (Capsuleer)

Monty Mole Clone Shiv M 84	Posted - 2013.11.16 15:43:00 - [11] - Quote this has been said allot before they came out with the academy, infact basic only stuff should have been the academy. even though this is supposed to be a skill based game, ccp listens to the folks that want the gear advantage so no std only game mode for you bud
Mortedeamor WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL 738	Posted - 2013.11.16 15:47:00 - [12] - Quote yes i wants
Vrain Matari ZionTCD Public Disorder. 1234	Posted - 2013.11.16 17:16:00 - [13] - Quote I don't care if its tier-based or meta-based. And it should be temporary - ultimately the matchmaker has to solve these problems for us. But if CCP's own assessment is that the matchmaker won't be doing the job it should for the next few months then adding one more game mode to counter what proto stomping is doing to the NPE would be a good thing for the game. I support SP rollover.
Lucifalic The Generals EoN. 161	Posted - 2013.11.16 17:23:00 - [14] - Quote I think it would be great.... and some NEW GAME MODES.
RydogV Shadow Company HQ 603	Posted - 2013.11.16 17:34:00 - [15] - Quote I know there is an effort by the developer to stay away from placing players into 'boxes' and keeping elements of the community separated. But I truly believe, Dust as it is right now needs to have various levels of difficulty as it where. I believe distinct game modes that only allowed Militia and Basic level items would benefit players who are trying to acclimate to the game or are not strong FPS players and are looking to improve their skill without getting destroyed consistently. I think people forget that this is a game, and having fun is part of the appeal. If new or inexperienced players have no where to go to learn or improve then you have effectively removed the opportunity for fun for them and they will probably not stick around long. Now some might thing that is fine but ultimately such turnover only hurts the greater community as a whole. In conjunction with a move for Militia/Basic modes only, I still believe there needs to be an expansion of Planetary Conquest that introduces smaller Districts, hosting 8v8 matches. Of course these would provide less incentive and reward as current Districts, but they would allow smaller corporations the chance to become more active in the title's premiere game mode. Smaller corporations provide a gateway for newer players into more advanced gameplay because a corporation that can participate in PC has more recruitment appeal. A lot of newer or less experienced players would probably be more inclined to join or create smaller corporations when they are just starting out. I know there is a deep desire to make Dust 514 "BIGGER". But in order to sustain bigger, the game needs the proper 'feeder' mechanisms in place to keep players having fun, staying engaged and looking toward taking their gameplay to the next level when they are ready.
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 1684	Posted - 2013.11.17 14:24:00 - [16] - Quote Fire of Prometheus wrote: Would I be able to equip enhanced modules(ie. enhanced armour plates etc.)? Either way, I want in. +1 Wtf do you think basic means? Does basic mean enhanced?
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 329	Posted - 2013.11.17 14:39:00 - [17] - Quote High Security space DUST matches = Limited to basic gear, AA full strength, limited match rewards. Low Security Space DUST matches = Limited to ADV gear, Weak AA, better match rewards. Null Security Space DUST matches = No gear Limitations, No AA, Increased match rewards. Let the players choose which gear they want to invest in and use versus the potential SP/ISK payout's. We will do matchmaking as players better then Scotty ever would. We don't even need a full 16v16 every match as long as team's are somewhat balanced. Build us a sandbox to play in CCP... not a World of warcraft matchmaking system.
Poonmunch Sanguis Defense Syndicate 567	Posted - 2013.11.17 14:51:00 - [18] - Quote Why not have a lobby that doesn't allow pre-made squads to jump in? It would stop team stomping. I like the idea of restricting meta level for equipment. I don't think it should be restricted by how many SP you have. My 0.02 ISK. Munch What if the hokey pokey really is what it's all about?
EternalRMG KNIGHTZ OF THE ROUND 594	Posted - 2013.11.17 14:52:00 - [19] - Quote Bethhy wrote: High Security space DUST matches = Limited to basic gear, AA full strength, limited match rewards. Low Security Space DUST matches = Limited to ADV gear, Weak AA, better match rewards. Null Security Space DUST matches = No gear Limitations, No AA, Increased match rewards. Let the players choose which gear they want to invest in and use versus the potential SP/ISK payout's. We will do matchmaking as players better then Scotty ever would. We don't even need a full 16v16 every match as long as team's are somewhat balanced. Build us a sandbox to play in CCP... not a World of warcraft matchmaking system. This "Fight Togheter; Win Together" Duster Since: July 2012 Best DropShip Pilot; Soon To be best Jet Fighter Pilot
RydogV Shadow Company HQ 608	Posted - 2013.11.17 15:05:00 - [20] - Quote Poonmunch wrote: Why not have a lobby that doesn't allow pre-made squads to jump in? It would stop team stomping. I like the idea of restricting meta level for equipment. I don't think it should be restricted by how many SP you have. My 0.02 ISK. Munch +1 but I say take it one step further and (in-addition) create lobbies that ONLY allow pre-made Squads to jump in. My corpmates and I would prefer fighting other organized teams outside of Faction Warfare and PC. How else does one become a better player?



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