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Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star. EoN.
1675
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Posted - 2013.11.16 13:59:00 -
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We are seeing more and more threads about proto stomping in pubs
Frankly its no suprise, PC is crap and FW isnt any better and until they are revamped and have less lag and alot better framrate (looking at you PC) then most corps will be in pubs stomipng on all players because they have the ISK/SP to do it and nothing else to do
Only way we can prevent this is by having a basic room, meta items 1-3 only, no AUR items either
The room would be random game modes of domination/skirmish and ambush
Mainly it would be there to stop proto stomping or even advanced stomping, it wouldnt stop those with high SP from going in or even 6man groups but it is a more level playing field and also 1 room deals with the very low player count
It would help with the new players if there are any left since you can leave the academy very quickly and not learn a damn thing since the WP total is way too low, 1200WP it should be more of 25000 at least
Also could be fun for high SP players in 6man groups, more of a challenge with basic items and lower tank and abilities
Would anyone want a basic only room? |
Sigberct Amni
Goonfeet Top Men.
185
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Posted - 2013.11.16 14:06:00 -
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I'd have fun in it. |
Kasote Denzara
A Vulture
792
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Posted - 2013.11.16 14:07:00 -
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No.
Meta-based matchmaking is the answer.
"I am a mercenary, I do as I need. I'll shed Amarrian blood for the freedom of my Minmitar allies but only for a price."
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Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star. EoN.
1675
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Posted - 2013.11.16 14:15:00 -
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Kasote Denzara wrote:No.
Meta-based matchmaking is the answer.
Thats what it is
Meta 1-3 is basic but we dont have the numbers to do meta based matchmaking across the board since we are under 4k active |
TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc.
1421
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Posted - 2013.11.16 14:51:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:We are seeing more and more threads about proto stomping in pubs
Frankly its no suprise, PC is crap and FW isnt any better and until they are revamped and have less lag and alot better framrate (looking at you PC) then most corps will be in pubs stomipng on all players because they have the ISK/SP to do it and nothing else to do
Only way we can prevent this is by having a basic room, meta items 1-3 only, no AUR items either
The room would be random game modes of domination/skirmish and ambush
Mainly it would be there to stop proto stomping or even advanced stomping, it wouldnt stop those with high SP from going in or even 6man groups but it is a more level playing field and also 1 room deals with the very low player count
It would help with the new players if there are any left since you can leave the academy very quickly and not learn a damn thing since the WP total is way too low, 1200WP it should be more of 25000 at least
Also could be fun for high SP players in 6man groups, more of a challenge with basic items and lower tank and abilities
Would anyone want a basic only room?
This would be so much fun
Level 1 forum warrior.
Minmatar and Gallente fw.
Fix PC lag please CCP.
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TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc.
1421
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Posted - 2013.11.16 14:52:00 -
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Kasote Denzara wrote:No.
Meta-based matchmaking is the answer.
Lol
Level 1 forum warrior.
Minmatar and Gallente fw.
Fix PC lag please CCP.
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Hellkeizer
The Avutora Complex
193
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Posted - 2013.11.16 15:21:00 -
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Anything to help new players
Waiting on PvE
Balancing without core content is a fail
"Don't chu go disrespecting coconut water!" Chakra Attack
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We are 138
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
432
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Posted - 2013.11.16 15:27:00 -
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yes. yes please |
Fire of Prometheus
DUST University Ivy League
1645
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Posted - 2013.11.16 15:27:00 -
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Would I be able to equip enhanced modules(ie. enhanced armour plates etc.)?
Either way, I want in. +1
"It is the mark of an educated mind to entertain a thought without accepting it."
-Aristotle
I'll take your Iskies
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Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
627
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Posted - 2013.11.16 15:43:00 -
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Would love this, would show how **** most proto users are.
Scout, Tanker, Dropship Pilot, AV'r
Alts - Medrean Delt / Moselder Telend (Pure Innocence) / Mledean Delt (Capsuleer)
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Monty Mole Clone
Shiv M
84
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Posted - 2013.11.16 15:43:00 -
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this has been said allot before they came out with the academy, infact basic only stuff should have been the academy. even though this is supposed to be a skill based game, ccp listens to the folks that want the gear advantage so no std only game mode for you bud |
Mortedeamor
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL
738
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Posted - 2013.11.16 15:47:00 -
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yes i wants |
Vrain Matari
ZionTCD Public Disorder.
1234
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Posted - 2013.11.16 17:16:00 -
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I don't care if its tier-based or meta-based. And it should be temporary - ultimately the matchmaker has to solve these problems for us.
But if CCP's own assessment is that the matchmaker won't be doing the job it should for the next few months then adding one more game mode to counter what proto stomping is doing to the NPE would be a good thing for the game.
I support SP rollover.
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Lucifalic
The Generals EoN.
161
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Posted - 2013.11.16 17:23:00 -
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I think it would be great....
and some NEW GAME MODES. |
RydogV
Shadow Company HQ
603
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Posted - 2013.11.16 17:34:00 -
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I know there is an effort by the developer to stay away from placing players into 'boxes' and keeping elements of the community separated. But I truly believe, Dust as it is right now needs to have various levels of difficulty as it where. I believe distinct game modes that only allowed Militia and Basic level items would benefit players who are trying to acclimate to the game or are not strong FPS players and are looking to improve their skill without getting destroyed consistently.
I think people forget that this is a game, and having fun is part of the appeal. If new or inexperienced players have no where to go to learn or improve then you have effectively removed the opportunity for fun for them and they will probably not stick around long. Now some might thing that is fine but ultimately such turnover only hurts the greater community as a whole.
In conjunction with a move for Militia/Basic modes only, I still believe there needs to be an expansion of Planetary Conquest that introduces smaller Districts, hosting 8v8 matches. Of course these would provide less incentive and reward as current Districts, but they would allow smaller corporations the chance to become more active in the title's premiere game mode. Smaller corporations provide a gateway for newer players into more advanced gameplay because a corporation that can participate in PC has more recruitment appeal.
A lot of newer or less experienced players would probably be more inclined to join or create smaller corporations when they are just starting out.
I know there is a deep desire to make Dust 514 "BIGGER". But in order to sustain bigger, the game needs the proper 'feeder' mechanisms in place to keep players having fun, staying engaged and looking toward taking their gameplay to the next level when they are ready. |
Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star. EoN.
1684
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Posted - 2013.11.17 14:24:00 -
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Fire of Prometheus wrote:Would I be able to equip enhanced modules(ie. enhanced armour plates etc.)?
Either way, I want in. +1
Wtf do you think basic means?
Does basic mean enhanced?
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Bethhy
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
329
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Posted - 2013.11.17 14:39:00 -
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High Security space DUST matches = Limited to basic gear, AA full strength, limited match rewards.
Low Security Space DUST matches = Limited to ADV gear, Weak AA, better match rewards.
Null Security Space DUST matches = No gear Limitations, No AA, Increased match rewards.
Let the players choose which gear they want to invest in and use versus the potential SP/ISK payout's. We will do matchmaking as players better then Scotty ever would. We don't even need a full 16v16 every match as long as team's are somewhat balanced.
Build us a sandbox to play in CCP... not a World of warcraft matchmaking system. |
Poonmunch
Sanguis Defense Syndicate
567
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Posted - 2013.11.17 14:51:00 -
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Why not have a lobby that doesn't allow pre-made squads to jump in? It would stop team stomping.
I like the idea of restricting meta level for equipment.
I don't think it should be restricted by how many SP you have.
My 0.02 ISK.
Munch
What if the hokey pokey really is what it's all about?
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EternalRMG
KNIGHTZ OF THE ROUND
594
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Posted - 2013.11.17 14:52:00 -
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Bethhy wrote:High Security space DUST matches = Limited to basic gear, AA full strength, limited match rewards.
Low Security Space DUST matches = Limited to ADV gear, Weak AA, better match rewards.
Null Security Space DUST matches = No gear Limitations, No AA, Increased match rewards.
Let the players choose which gear they want to invest in and use versus the potential SP/ISK payout's. We will do matchmaking as players better then Scotty ever would. We don't even need a full 16v16 every match as long as team's are somewhat balanced.
Build us a sandbox to play in CCP... not a World of warcraft matchmaking system.
This
"Fight Togheter; Win Together"
Duster Since: July 2012
Best DropShip Pilot; Soon To be best Jet Fighter Pilot
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RydogV
Shadow Company HQ
608
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Posted - 2013.11.17 15:05:00 -
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Poonmunch wrote:Why not have a lobby that doesn't allow pre-made squads to jump in? It would stop team stomping.
I like the idea of restricting meta level for equipment.
I don't think it should be restricted by how many SP you have.
My 0.02 ISK.
Munch
+1 but I say take it one step further and (in-addition) create lobbies that ONLY allow pre-made Squads to jump in. My corpmates and I would prefer fighting other organized teams outside of Faction Warfare and PC. How else does one become a better player?
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