DUST Search - If armor gets nerfed because Gallente logi is ridiculous

Laurent Cazaderon wrote:

Cat Merc wrote:

If armor gets nerfed because Gallente logi is ridiculous, I will have a litter of kittens, send them to the CCP Shanghai office, and make them poop on the entire office.
No, the Gallente assault isn't the best suit, and armor isn't the best tank, if you actually do the math, Caldari assault comes out on top. (Psst, try putting a CPU extender in the low slot, see what happens)
Not to mention that the current meta is anti shield weapons (SCR and AR).

The problem is logis.
Logis get inherent 5hp/s (Which is huge, that's like a free complex module), can get ridiculos eHP compared to the assault AND fit 3x complex damage mods AND get equipment.

So all of you people who say "lolno, armor is the best cuz dmods and stuffz", my Gallente assault barely has any tank if I try to use damage mods.
6.25 hp/s and 441 armor anyone?

Agreed. Overall assault suits arent the best middle frame suit. and all need a CPU mod.
And yes, gal and cal logis are the source of many issues that shouldnt be balanced until they are fixed bonuses and modules potential wise. As long as they'll remain potential huge EHP and damage dealer, they'll throw any balance attempt.


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Zaria Min Deir Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 308	Posted - 2013.11.16 14:07:00 - [1] - Quote Laurent Cazaderon wrote: Cat Merc wrote: If armor gets nerfed because Gallente logi is ridiculous, I will have a litter of kittens, send them to the CCP Shanghai office, and make them poop on the entire office. No, the Gallente assault isn't the best suit, and armor isn't the best tank, if you actually do the math, Caldari assault comes out on top. (Psst, try putting a CPU extender in the low slot, see what happens) Not to mention that the current meta is anti shield weapons (SCR and AR). The problem is logis. Logis get inherent 5hp/s (Which is huge, that's like a free complex module), can get ridiculos eHP compared to the assault AND fit 3x complex damage mods AND get equipment. So all of you people who say "lolno, armor is the best cuz dmods and stuffz", my Gallente assault barely has any tank if I try to use damage mods. 6.25 hp/s and 441 armor anyone? Agreed. Overall assault suits arent the best middle frame suit. and all need a CPU mod. And yes, gal and cal logis are the source of many issues that shouldnt be balanced until they are fixed bonuses and modules potential wise. As long as they'll remain potential huge EHP and damage dealer, they'll throw any balance attempt. While all of that is true, most of the "balancing" suggestions in the forums seem to be aimed to cripple all logis. Remove the inbuilt health generation, give them less H/L slots, less CPU/PG, remove the light weapon slot, give them even less base health and/or speed... These would make the logi fits that are proto weapon, proto nade, all HP and damage mods and then use the tiny bit of CPU and PG left over to throw on some equipment, usually adv or below, less competitive against assault suits, yes... and would make the already weak as hell equipment/support modules prioritizing logis, particularly us poor Minmatar, even weaker. And BTW, I have not, nor am I now, asking the Minmatar logi suit to be buffed, I think it is one of the most balanced suits of the game... I just really don't see why it needs a major nerf, either. I know you, Laurent, specified cal and gal logis, and I'm pretty sure the OP is also just talking about Gallente logis specifically, but most people don't. Kind of like the situation as when people were crying for the Cal logi to be nerfed, very few of them would bother to specify it was the Caldari logi they thought needed balancing, it was all "I got killed by a yellow suit, NERF LOGIS!!!" And once again, maybe the situation would be better solved by looking at things like giving assault suits more CPU, better suit bonuses, etc. Also, maybe shield and armour modules should have stacking penalties, this would affect the logis (with their lower base HP and more slots to stack health modules) much more than assaults... However, I personally think there should be no major buffs or nerfs to the medium suit classes until CCP has done some major work on the light and heavy suits. Have you considered installing the improved keyboard? "Go Go Power Rangers!"