easy fix
swap logi and assault H/L low layout, cal std 3 cal adv 4 cal pro 5.
gal assault hp/s skill, swap H/L layout.
or less cpu/pg on logis and cpu/pg buff on assaults

Agreed. Overall assault suits arent the best middle frame suit. and all need a CPU mod.
And yes, gal and cal logis are the source of many issues that shouldnt be balanced until they are fixed bonuses and modules potential wise. As long as they'll remain potential huge EHP and damage dealer, they'll throw any balance attempt.

1. I agree, armour is not OP. Shields get fast regen, no need for repper, no movement penalty, and resistance versus the constant core locus spam. I think shields versus armour is quite well balanced right now.
2. For the thousandth time, logis are not OP. Lower movement speed and lack of sidearm are massive drawbacks. If I had a respec I'd probably get out of logi and into assault.

A lot of my deaths are due to lack of sidearm. Against one or even two opponents it is usually unnecessary, but against multiples you get to the point where a logi needs to reload, and no amount of HP is going to save you. I'd happily give up two slots plus CPU/PG to get a sidearm on my logi.

Oh wow, another OP logi thread. The sad part is CCP listens to the loudest whiners on the forum.

Yeah, what's wrong is the assault suit sucks big time. I don't think the way to fix it is to nerf the logi suit. I would much rather better assault bonuses (racial and fitting reqs.) Improving the other suits, heavy and scout included, will fix this problem.

Sidearm only Gëá sufficient self defences.

MLT Shields: 22
STD Shields:33
ENH Shields:66
Complex Shields:99

(With Level 5 passive Bonus to extenders/ +10%)
MLT Shields: 24
STD Shields:36
ENH Shields:72
Complex Shields:109


Done.

Now, I feel that something needs to be done to rebalance Logi v Assault, but that just seems abit unfair dood. I mean, I only play Amarr and Minmatar suits, but when I logi I still have to hide and take cover. Maybe I'm filling my slots wrong or just wearing the wrong suit, but if I 'turn off' me and my heavy buddy both die horribly.

The problem isn't with GalLogis; it's more with the current Meta of the game.

Think about it.

Everyone uses ARs or Scrambler Rifles. The AR is 110%/90% shield/armor efficiency; the ScR is 120%/80% shield/armor efficiency.

MOST people have been shield-tanking up until when Armor was buffed. The GalLogi's and other armor tankers have taken advantage of the metagame and that's why you're starting to see a shift to armor. The fact that we don't have an AR equivalent that's 90%/110% shield/armor (besides the SMG, but I'm talking mid to long-range) is what makes it an issue.

When the Combat/Rail Rifle hit we'll hopefully see armor-tankers start to be more wary as people begin to adjust to the shifting meta of the game.

Man, my gallente logi had to use those triage hives just to survive for a long time, the armor update did help tremendously. Then 1.6 is here and suddenly all the lame-ass shield tankers are using it too...did armor change in 1.6? did the triage hives change in 1.6? MMMMMMHHHH what did change? ;-)

Idiots trying to point at logis because they want better assaults. Spam the ******* forum with assault threads instead. Thank you and if you want to change something then change it big time so the game gets fun again and not just one adjustment on one suit.

**** this ****, I just specced into minmatar logi and I'm not even at proto yet, standard gun, non-lethal flux nades and standard equipment. I still ended on top with a positive KDR. I'm pretty sure that the KDR can go higher if I'm using an assault suit too, but that's completely out of your minds isn't it.

****! Logi is OP or maybe you guys need to learn how to play.

The game isn't only about best damage or best health, but let me stop here before I blow your minds.

edit:
If you need damage mods or 5hp/sec to survive in this game in it's current stage, then you are doing it wrong.

No.

But it is however stupid that a logi can't repare himself with a rep tool, so a sort of auto-repair when not in battle would be nice.

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Damage mods? LOL, I only use those when running my plasma cannon, I guess that is too OP too?

My STD gallente logi with around 450 armor and 5 hp/s and a militia AR does just fine actually, but I get your point. I just never run my logi without equipment or damage mods, I do have that kind of armor, but I need that to stay alive and support my teammates really. I also make sure I'm around blue dots who can protect me when needed. Well maybe I'll play the game just (as it is supposed to be) wrong.

I'm just not really sure why everyone is obsessed with small repairs rates, the militia AR is even powerful enough to take on a heavy and anything that has a tiny repair rate. Find a logi with a rep tool/triage hives if you want those reps, just as I'm around blue dots for my own safety (well unless they are random blue dots).

Also this game isn't about your total HP only, but hey maybe I do play the game wrong.

Also get rid of those damage mods, you'll be able to do enough damage without them.

It's not the logi that's wrong in this game, they just need to redesign all the suit/roles again, so it's pointless to make these kind of threads.

I know, but you wasted some slots on useless stuff. I'm just saying that I'm doing pretty fine with my STD logi, so you shouldn't be that bad with an assault suit, especially if you get rid of the useless stuff.