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True Adamance
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2013.11.22 08:26:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:G A L L E N T E
In terms of lore, the Gallente are a fair and democratic people. They put a high value on human life and aesthetics and their designs and mechanics should reflect this.
In terms of lore, the Amarr believe in crushing the opponent mentally and then physically. TheyGÇÖre ruthless and believe in committing horrible atrocities in the name of their god. Their designs should be both aesthetically intimidating and effective.
Get your goddamn **** straight and don't come out with ignorant crap like this.
The Amarr are what they are, they believe they are good, some believe they are evil, in reality they are neither, just a necessity. The Gallente are made out by very biased devs to be some sort of jackass intergalactic good guy cicle jerk, that not as many as they would have you believe likes because of their almost oppressive and heavy handed culture.
I wont bother with you mechanics without having read them they are sound. But this kind of biased bullshit really pisses me off.
"All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
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True Adamance
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
4229
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Posted - 2013.11.22 09:10:00 -
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Dagger-Two wrote:Case in point: About 100 years ago, just before the Minmatar rebellion. (Taken from the story 'Theodicy')
GÇ£Do you have the latest casualty estimates for Eanna?GÇ¥
There was a pause. GÇ£At last pass, sixty-three million dead, mostly from orbital bombardment directed at population centers. One million or so killed during the surface landings; another million in subsequent ground combat. At least two million were taken as slaves, but we wonGÇÖt know exact numbers for some time.GÇ¥
Thats 64 million dead, 2 million taken as slaves.
...apparently murdering 31 out of every 32 people you come across is effective 'reclaiming'
Go Amarr. Keep spreading that warm, warm, laser-like love of God.
I said we were what we were, we're not evil just a part of this galaxy, I'm consistently pissed off though that CCP has basically spun dust so that we are made out to be the bad guys.
You also have not mentioned that the Rebellions were a war. Their people rose up against ours and they tried to kills us. This also being a time before the Amarr were tempered by Heideran's more modest teachings.
Sounds to me like 100 years ago when the Gallente bombed Caldari prime, took their home world and killed millions of people.
That is 100 years ago, who the amarr were then is not who they are now.
"All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
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True Adamance
Scions of Athra
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Posted - 2013.12.09 22:55:00 -
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Dagger-Two wrote:Jaysyn Larrisen wrote:This thread has taken a decidely different turn.  I do think that Pokey clearly has the cultural / racial thrust of things correct. Until the Dust corner of the universe is more fully synch'd into EVE Lore he's pretty spot on with what he's go to work with. That said, none of the four primary races are all good or all evil...it's definetly a matter of perspecitve and the cool thing about EVE lore is that you really can find examples or paths that touch all facets of human behavior in each race. I think that's a bit of the genius behind the universe. True - I respect you championing the Amarr and I don't think Pokey was trying to hose you guys (much!). I was a little suprised at the response...you're known for pracitcal and well timed feedback on the forums, not going full on BURN THE HERETIC!  Absolutely, that's one of the things I love about the lore as well. Hell, even the pirate factions can blur the line between good and evil (except sansha....nobody likes the sansha). I personally don't champion the gallente, or any empire, but I love pointing out the grand atrocities the Amarr have comitted 
Which are all within reason.
I can adequately justify just about anything the Amarr have done in context...bar a few specific examples....most of which are not a reflect of who the Amarr have become in the current era.
"All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
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