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P14GU3 wrote:

Vell0cet wrote:

P14GU3 wrote:

Vell0cet wrote:

darkiller240 wrote:

scouts need cloak
booom iv blown your mind with epic game balance

I suspect scouts are getting a cloak fairly soon. CCP could be waiting for this before buffing them to see how it affects balance.

Lmao, you don't know ccp very well then. They are still trying to get the weapons and suits they said they would have 6 months ago. You'll get a cloak in two years

Well someone from the CPM (who have knowledge of the roadmap) kind of hinted this might be the case in the podcast this week. So it could be sooner than we expect. They've been working on it for quite a while, and in some respects it's an easier thing to code than making a new weapon with balanced stats and a unique "feel."

I would believe you if I hadn't heard it before. So what about the other suits? Supposedly we were just waiting on artwork for them. So why has it been over 6 months and still nothing? Why are we getting new weapons next patch but still no suits? Was the artwork already done for the weps in 1.0? Then why wait till 1.7 to release? Or did they just give up on the suit artwork and start on something else.. ccp is way behind on their "roadmap" or they just don't follow it.

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Knight Soiaire R 0 N 1 N 3282	Posted - 2013.11.15 20:26:00 - [1] - Quote CCP, are quick enough to 'Fix' the Light Frame Scan Radius, but, they're slow to nerf the clearly OP AR / SCR / .etc. Sucking up to the majority I see. If its so easy to kick Light Frames while they're down, then how is it so hard to buff their PG/CPU, and base Movement / Sprint? I'm sure no one has a problem with making Scouts harder to hit, unless you suck at aiming. Save General John Ripper! Catz Addict
Kristoff Atruin Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1353	Posted - 2013.11.15 20:29:00 - [2] - Quote Quick? Hasn't the scout scan radius something people have been complaining about since uprising? That's hardly quick. The thought of it taking as long to fix ARs as it did to fix scout scanning makes me want to go cry in my beer. Excuse me.
darkiller240 K-A-O-S theory 179	Posted - 2013.11.15 20:30:00 - [3] - Quote scouts need cloak booom iv blown your mind with epic game balance "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." - Albert Einstein
Krom Ganesh Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 700	Posted - 2013.11.15 20:30:00 - [4] - Quote Kristoff Atruin wrote: Quick? Hasn't the scout scan radius something people have been complaining about since uprising? That's hardly quick. The thought of it taking as long to fix ARs as it did to fix scout scanning makes me want to go cry in my beer. Excuse me. I believe he is refering to CCP's mistake of making the light frame having a 20m scan radius instead of 16m like the scout when they recently raised the scan radius. Didn't know they had already fixed it. !
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 10277	Posted - 2013.11.15 20:32:00 - [5] - Quote Quick? lol. How quickly we forget. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier Specialist Current Theme \\= Advanced Scrambler Rifle =// Unlocked
Mortedeamor WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL 728	Posted - 2013.11.15 20:53:00 - [6] - Quote Knight Soiaire wrote: CCP, are quick enough to 'Fix' the Light Frame Scan Radius, but, they're slow to nerf the clearly OP AR / SCR / .etc. Sucking up to the majority I see. If its so easy to kick Light Frames while they're down, then how is it so hard to buff their PG/CPU, and base Movement / Sprint? I'm sure no one has a problem with making Scouts harder to hit, unless you suck at aiming. ccp is always sucking up to the majority LOOK AT TANKS
Vell0cet Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 551	Posted - 2013.11.15 22:25:00 - [7] - Quote darkiller240 wrote: scouts need cloak booom iv blown your mind with epic game balance I suspect scouts are getting a cloak fairly soon. CCP could be waiting for this before buffing them to see how it affects balance. Quick/Dirty Test Range Idea
ER-Bullitt 591	Posted - 2013.11.15 22:26:00 - [8] - Quote Of course the try to appease the masses... That would be like dunkin donuts no longer selling coffee because someone complains that its unhealthy. AR type weapons have been, always were, and always will be the most common form of weapon in a first person shooter. deal with it. lolz
ACE OF JOKERS AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS 37	Posted - 2013.11.15 22:28:00 - [9] - Quote Knight Soiaire wrote: CCP, are quick enough to 'Fix' the Light Frame Scan Radius, but, they're slow to nerf the clearly OP AR / SCR / .etc. Sucking up to the majority I see. If its so easy to kick Light Frames while they're down, then how is it so hard to buff their PG/CPU, and base Movement / Sprint? I'm sure no one has a problem with making Scouts harder to hit, unless you suck at aiming. Agree , except SCR are not op.
P14GU3 The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 429	Posted - 2013.11.15 22:29:00 - [10] - Quote Vell0cet wrote: darkiller240 wrote: scouts need cloak booom iv blown your mind with epic game balance I suspect scouts are getting a cloak fairly soon. CCP could be waiting for this before buffing them to see how it affects balance. Lmao, you don't know ccp very well then. They are still trying to get the weapons and suits they said they would have 6 months ago. You'll get a cloak in two years

GRIM GEAR Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State 49	Posted - 2013.11.15 22:41:00 - [11] - Quote It will be interesting to see what data CCP collect from people using their free 50 black eagle scout suits. Who knows, is there an ulterior motive behind CCP's generosity; what exactly are they aiming to achieve? It's a bird! No it's a plane! Never mind it's just my shotgun in your face!
Vell0cet Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 551	Posted - 2013.11.15 22:47:00 - [12] - Quote P14GU3 wrote: Vell0cet wrote: darkiller240 wrote: scouts need cloak booom iv blown your mind with epic game balance I suspect scouts are getting a cloak fairly soon. CCP could be waiting for this before buffing them to see how it affects balance. Lmao, you don't know ccp very well then. They are still trying to get the weapons and suits they said they would have 6 months ago. You'll get a cloak in two years Well someone from the CPM (who have knowledge of the roadmap) kind of hinted this might be the case in the podcast this week. So it could be sooner than we expect. They've been working on it for quite a while, and in some respects it's an easier thing to code than making a new weapon with balanced stats and a unique "feel." Quick/Dirty Test Range Idea
Jadd Hatchen Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 54	Posted - 2013.11.15 22:50:00 - [13] - Quote Knight Soiaire wrote: CCP, are quick enough to 'Fix' the Light Frame Scan Radius, but, they're slow to nerf the clearly OP AR / SCR / .etc. Sucking up to the majority I see. If its so easy to kick Light Frames while they're down, then how is it so hard to buff their PG/CPU, and base Movement / Sprint? I'm sure no one has a problem with making Scouts harder to hit, unless you suck at aiming. You know what's even more funny. What if the reason they chose to fix one and not the other is because the other is NOT actually a problem. What if you are just not perceiving it right?
P14GU3 The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 430	Posted - 2013.11.15 22:55:00 - [14] - Quote Vell0cet wrote: P14GU3 wrote: Vell0cet wrote: darkiller240 wrote: scouts need cloak booom iv blown your mind with epic game balance I suspect scouts are getting a cloak fairly soon. CCP could be waiting for this before buffing them to see how it affects balance. Lmao, you don't know ccp very well then. They are still trying to get the weapons and suits they said they would have 6 months ago. You'll get a cloak in two years Well someone from the CPM (who have knowledge of the roadmap) kind of hinted this might be the case in the podcast this week. So it could be sooner than we expect. They've been working on it for quite a while, and in some respects it's an easier thing to code than making a new weapon with balanced stats and a unique "feel." I would believe you if I hadn't heard it before. So what about the other suits? Supposedly we were just waiting on artwork for them. So why has it been over 6 months and still nothing? Why are we getting new weapons next patch but still no suits? Was the artwork already done for the weps in 1.0? Then why wait till 1.7 to release? Or did they just give up on the suit artwork and start on something else.. ccp is way behind on their "roadmap" or they just don't follow it.
Rynoceros Rise Of Old Dudes 1311	Posted - 2013.11.15 23:00:00 - [15] - Quote I agree. Their choices of **** to hotfix is laughable. Cheeseburgers.
Vell0cet Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 551	Posted - 2013.11.15 23:10:00 - [16] - Quote P14GU3 wrote: Vell0cet wrote: P14GU3 wrote: Vell0cet wrote: darkiller240 wrote: scouts need cloak booom iv blown your mind with epic game balance I suspect scouts are getting a cloak fairly soon. CCP could be waiting for this before buffing them to see how it affects balance. Lmao, you don't know ccp very well then. They are still trying to get the weapons and suits they said they would have 6 months ago. You'll get a cloak in two years Well someone from the CPM (who have knowledge of the roadmap) kind of hinted this might be the case in the podcast this week. So it could be sooner than we expect. They've been working on it for quite a while, and in some respects it's an easier thing to code than making a new weapon with balanced stats and a unique "feel." I would believe you if I hadn't heard it before. So what about the other suits? Supposedly we were just waiting on artwork for them. So why has it been over 6 months and still nothing? Why are we getting new weapons next patch but still no suits? Was the artwork already done for the weps in 1.0? Then why wait till 1.7 to release? Or did they just give up on the suit artwork and start on something else.. ccp is way behind on their "roadmap" or they just don't follow it. What happened was Uprising dropped and it was full of bugs and CCP spent their development resources on finding and fixing gameplay bugs; they've made tons of improvements since 1.0. Now that the core engine is getting to a decent place, they can spend their resources on pushing out things like new weapons, suits, and possibly things like cloaks. Quick/Dirty Test Range Idea
Seymor Krelborn DUST University Ivy League 1200	Posted - 2013.11.15 23:15:00 - [17] - Quote Knight Soiaire wrote: CCP, are quick enough to 'Fix' the Light Frame Scan Radius, but, they're slow to nerf the clearly OP AR / SCR / .etc. Sucking up to the majority I see. If its so easy to kick Light Frames while they're down, then how is it so hard to buff their PG/CPU, and base Movement / Sprint? I'm sure no one has a problem with making Scouts harder to hit, unless you suck at aiming. you must be new.... scouts have been busted since closed beta in one way or another. do some research. insert witty or profound statement here _______.
P14GU3 The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 431	Posted - 2013.11.15 23:31:00 - [18] - Quote What happened was Uprising dropped and it was full of bugs and CCP spent their development resources on finding and fixing gameplay bugs; they've made tons of improvements since 1.0. Now that the core engine is getting to a decent place, they can spend their resources on pushing out things like new weapons, suits, and possibly things like cloaks.[/quote] Once again, I would believe that if I didn't know you don't put your art dept on bug fixes. Like I said we were just waiting on artwork. 6 months for 4 suits and no progress? So if what you say is true we should have those suits next patch or two right? I used to think the same way as you, now I'm an old bittervet.
Knight Soiaire R 0 N 1 N 3295	Posted - 2013.11.16 00:12:00 - [19] - Quote Jadd Hatchen wrote: Knight Soiaire wrote: CCP, are quick enough to 'Fix' the Light Frame Scan Radius, but, they're slow to nerf the clearly OP AR / SCR / .etc. Sucking up to the majority I see. If its so easy to kick Light Frames while they're down, then how is it so hard to buff their PG/CPU, and base Movement / Sprint? I'm sure no one has a problem with making Scouts harder to hit, unless you suck at aiming. You know what's even more funny. What if the reason they chose to fix one and not the other is because the other is NOT actually a problem. What if you are just not perceiving it right? Light Frames, with nothing going for them, get a reasonable 20m Scan Radius (+10m more than Med, +4m more than Scouts), due to an error, CCP roll back on that error. Weapons that can down a Heavy without even having to reload, can take down 2-3 enemies with one magazine, and have very little recoil, dont get a damage nerf, not even a slight damage nerf. So, Light Frames having a +20m Base Scan was a bigger problem than OP, incredibly high DPS weapons, with incredibly low TTK? Keeping in mind, these frames can only get 250-500eHP (Thats just as much as an MLT suit), without losing their speed and agility. Now, you're probably going to say "But it wasn't right that Scouts didn't have that bonus, and lights did!" Well then, buff the Scout Base Scan. I think everyone will agree with me when I say, Scouts and Lights, dont need more nerfs. Save General John Ripper! Catz Addict
Knight Soiaire R 0 N 1 N 3296	Posted - 2013.11.16 00:19:00 - [20] - Quote Seymor Krelborn wrote: Knight Soiaire wrote: CCP, are quick enough to 'Fix' the Light Frame Scan Radius, but, they're slow to nerf the clearly OP AR / SCR / .etc. Sucking up to the majority I see. If its so easy to kick Light Frames while they're down, then how is it so hard to buff their PG/CPU, and base Movement / Sprint? I'm sure no one has a problem with making Scouts harder to hit, unless you suck at aiming. you must be new.... scouts have been busted since closed beta in one way or another. do some research. I've been here since Mordu's Private Trials, and I've been through it all, when Scouts were OP, when they were near, just near (We still needed EWAR) perfect in Chromosone, with their 25m Base Scan, which allowed us to do some actual Scouting, reasonable CPU/PG, and speed tanking was viable. Scouts were in a much better position in Chrome. Then Uprising hit, and we got nerf, after nerf, after nerf. Then it got worse, as the usefulness of Speed tanking degraded, and to just add salt to the wounds, to kick Scouts and Lights when they were down, CCP took away our one true advantage in 1v1, our quicker turn speeds, now we dont turn any faster than the large, high HP, Heavy. Gone are the days of, literally, running circles around a Heavy. In Chromosone, Scouts were a pain to deal with, now, when I see a Scout, unless hes Armour tanking (Which is not the reason I specced Scout, even though it is viable) I just see +50, and mark another kill to my stats. Scouts were never this bad. Do your research. CCP has got their priorites messed up. Save General John Ripper! Catz Addict

Knight Soiaire R 0 N 1 N 3296	Posted - 2013.11.16 00:21:00 - [21] - Quote ACE OF JOKERS wrote: Knight Soiaire wrote: CCP, are quick enough to 'Fix' the Light Frame Scan Radius, but, they're slow to nerf the clearly OP AR / SCR / .etc. Sucking up to the majority I see. If its so easy to kick Light Frames while they're down, then how is it so hard to buff their PG/CPU, and base Movement / Sprint? I'm sure no one has a problem with making Scouts harder to hit, unless you suck at aiming. Agree , except SCR are not op. I only included the SCR because I didn't want this to become another AR Vs SCR thread. They're not OP, to the point where they need nerfing immediately, but they could use some toning down one way or the other. Save General John Ripper! Catz Addict
Onesimus Tarsus Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 677	Posted - 2013.11.16 00:28:00 - [22] - Quote Know what else is funny? Nuns falling down stairs. Not real nuns, cartoon nuns. With deer antlers.


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