Risk is irrelevant here. The notion that risk is a defining factor over experiencing the fullness of the game is rediculous. Thinking about the isk you are losing...while losing a match/diminishedkdr/win loss% is redundant. This game is a competition and incorporating an economy that not only detracts from the over all ecperience but hinders it is pointless. People play to win in any other game. People play for isk here. That seems right to you guys?

You cant pay to win here. And last I checked cod wasnt doing to shabby. Think about all the the options this game is going to have. Think about the timeframe in which an average player will acheive everything presented to him. Reliance on isk alone is a detriment. It is a fundimental flaw.

Average dust experience: hanging in there pubstomp after pub stomp joining corps that dont last or cant afford pc or even defend if they could basically having to compensate by specing into different fotm to pass time and spice things up.

This game (even with boosters) has a very long time line. With the fact that you cant really do all the things with suits you wait for ever to get that you cant use all the time anyways is a flawed concept.

Isk stops people from playing stupid?

Brothers let us reason(laughing to myself)

This game can not be pay to win. You have to earn sp period. What is so appealing about a player based economy outside the fact if I want proto gear ill have to sell salvage. ill have to sacrifice salvage. Thus I am prompted to make yet another sacrifice(outside suit spec limititions vs available spectrum) instead of getting exactly what I have earned and desired promptly. it is not compensation to have player based economy, it is a diversion of the entirely false accusation of pay to win.

There is no way people are getting the most of their time invested with this current system. People are not getting what they want. There is no greater trophy than skill. Kdr, win loss % community rek.own. There is nothing greater in any game than that. Let me ask you this. On behalf of the vast majority: hows the tour going? Lots of cool stops? See evsrything there was to see? Ready for the mext level?

Allen Iverson said it besy: cant buy a jump shot.

Proto BPOs are pay to win - period. Proto's are suppose to be balanced out by a degree because running it at full capacity is costly. What cost is there if it's infinite? Just because you need to spend some time gaining the SP to use the gear doesn't make it any less pay to win. It would also mean killing a proto guy brings less satisfaction - you didn't just take a proto suit form him - he's got infinite.

You're reasoning about player market is also strange - why not go try out CoD or BF if you haven't played them? Would seem more like your cup of tea then this game. In those game you pay to enjoy - this game is free, the enjoyment comes from what you can get from it's uniqueness.

Glad you enjoy the game so much - but the player market is an extremely important aspect of this game. Without it - it's just another lobby shooter.

I dont know about anyone else but this is my first fps online multiplayer. Now im nothing special but I am hardcore about competition.

The player market means absolutely nothing if I dont have salvage or isk. How does the player market keep you competitive?

Why do I care about a player market when in the 6 months ive been here I havent pc'd 1 time?

How is it that having less for long periods of time against better equipped, better skilled Is a "draw"? You mean to tell me ccp is actially selling that verbetum? Ide say no they are not.

The reality is if cod and bf4 were so awesome dust would be gone. But they arent and dust is here. But I can download a "shop keeper" app for my phone somewhere if I wanted a sales game. I dont. I want to shoot people and take territories and be part of epic battles.

give me more for my time. Give me more fore my money. Give me a competitive shot. As an individual give me access to everything. Let me earn victory, not isk.

There is no way in hell bpo proto is pay to win. If anything in this game it levels the playing feild. That doesnt scare me at all.

Take me seriously? Find me on the battlefeild alone and not take me seriously.

The reality of your comments are that they are not applicable. What advantage is there in having to budget your fights when your goal and core game experience is supposed to be join a corp, purchase districts, defend yours and take others but 70% of your player base simply (&barely gets by) budgetting suits?

If isk is going to basically be thee core focus I want more from it. Everyone wants more from it. Is dust really teaching me to do more, and worry more but get less and do less with my time and money?

And why would bpos of protos have to be insanely expensive? Look at how much isk pc's are. Does that solve anything? Does that increase value of it on any level? 70% of the player base wouldnt know. Costs to much. The other 30% is clearly mixed.

I want you to think about 1 thing. With all the money you can spend on this game, why is isk the deciding factor in the end.

You can yell skill all you want. You can yell risk all you want. Chant market and hyena sucks balls. But why cant I get more from my time. Why doesnt my money have more options. Does going without really contribute. Does additional vurdens and alternate focus create a better game experience than if they wetent there?

Whose prefference ate we ultimately embracing?