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Posted - 2013.11.13 16:28:00 -
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Here is what I figured the HMG needs to be effective:
50m optimal range.
Increased dispersion (SLIGHTLY, it is currently laser accurate contariry to popular belief, some dudes tested it and proved it)
And finally, aim assist.
That's right, I took this weapon to the field and... Either it has little aim assist, or it doesn't have any.
Why:
50m optimal - It's a supressing weapon, if someone isn't afraid of dying from it, it isn't suppressing him.
Increased dispersion - Supression weapon. It would not affect it's CQC power, and at 50m most of the bullets will still hit. (It's just a slight increase, since it's currently laser accurate)
And aim assist - Because why the **** didn't you add it in the first place?
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Posted - 2013.11.13 16:34:00 -
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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:I don't see the problem with the HMG to be honest. that doesn't mean there is nothing wrong with it, but since i'm a scout, it still eats me alive.
TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:
but since i'm a scout
The plasma launcher eats scouts alive soooo....
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Posted - 2013.11.13 16:46:00 -
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Chunky Munkey wrote:It needs higher DPS if it is to keep its current range. I take down heavies in cqc with a Scrambler rifle. There's no way that should be a fair encounter, I should be shredded without a moment's notice.
Wanting extra range on the HMG is a symptom of us not having any heavy weapons, not of a UP HMG.
No it really does need range.
DPS is not a factor, it does 600 DPS and unlike what people said, it IS laser accurate.
Unless you're using a modded controller, your SCR outputs around the same DPS.
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Posted - 2013.11.13 17:05:00 -
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Jacques Cayton II wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Here is what I figured the HMG needs to be effective:
50m optimal range.
Increased dispersion (SLIGHTLY, it is currently laser accurate contariry to popular belief, some dudes tested it and proved it)
And finally, aim assist.
That's right, I took this weapon to the field and... Either it has little aim assist, or it doesn't have any.
Why:
50m optimal - It's a supressing weapon, if someone isn't afraid of dying from it, it isn't suppressing him.
Increased dispersion - Supression weapon. It would not affect it's CQC power, and at 50m most of the bullets will still hit. (It's just a slight increase, since it's currently laser accurate)
And aim assist - Because why the **** didn't you add it in the first place? So why the change in heart you were so dead set on keeping the AR the same what are you a liberal are something
Uhhh...
Me acknowledging a weapon needs a buff means I think the AR isn't fine?
I think it's at a good place, if a bit overshadowed by the SCR.
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Posted - 2013.11.13 17:12:00 -
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Jack Boost wrote:Rynoceros wrote:After watching Ghazbaran's video, I've been doing so much better with the HMG. Like "night and day" better. Can't thank that dude enough. I wonder how it is possible that 99% of HMG users... do it wrong for so long time... And all of them want buff :)
I tried doing it right, but these are the problems I was met with.
Doing these simple changes to the HMG will make it a very good weapon.
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Posted - 2013.11.13 17:31:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:35-45m optimal and judging from Ghazbaran's video, 45-51 accuracy. Make it a gun that tosses up a wall of lead with its weakness being lack of mobility, overheat and slow reload speed. The HMG needs to be treated like a heavy weapon. Hell, they can even recind the HP buff for this. It's the weapon, not the suit.
Nah, that's too little.
I used the breach that has ~the same range as what you said, and I wanted to puke.
Lack of mobility and long reload speed already bring it down, now it needs stuff to bring it up.
AR's in 1.7 will have 70m range, so 50m range for the Minnie HMG being the middle range HMG sounds fair no?
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Posted - 2013.11.13 17:42:00 -
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Melchiah ARANeAE wrote:It's a CQC weapon so it doesn't need a range buff. It just needs its dispersion fixed so it's not laser accurate and stops confusing people.
There also needs to be more heavy weapons. Namely a medium range one.
It's range is insulting.
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Posted - 2013.11.13 18:11:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Cosgar wrote:35-45m optimal and judging from Ghazbaran's video, 45-51 accuracy. Make it a gun that tosses up a wall of lead with its weakness being lack of mobility, overheat and slow reload speed. The HMG needs to be treated like a heavy weapon. Hell, they can even recind the HP buff for this. It's the weapon, not the suit. Nah, that's too little. I used the breach that has ~the same range as what you said, and I wanted to puke. Lack of mobility and long reload speed already bring it down, now it needs stuff to bring it up. AR's in 1.7 will have 70m range, so 50m range for the Minnie HMG being the middle range HMG sounds fair no? The AR does not have 70m optimal in 1.7. It does have 70m effective range, but Cosgar is referring to optimal.
Correct.
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