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ACE OF JOKERS
AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS
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Posted - 2013.11.14 00:36:00 -
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Chunky Munkey wrote:I was highly amused to hear that CCP thought anyone would get a 5.0 kdr with them.
I could ....
BTW , whats the Scout event thing...? what do you ahve to do? |
calvin b
Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION
929
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Posted - 2013.11.14 00:39:00 -
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The black Eagle is a beautiful suit and if hit detection and TTK was reasonable this would be a fun suit to run. I love the suit myself and cant wait to use them, but at the current time it only takes someone to breath on you as a scout and you die. I would just mothball them and wait for a another day.
Also CCP I have one question, how did you expect a scout suit in today's environment to kill 10 individuals so they could receive 1 of the same suit as a reward.
Do not eat the yellow snow
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Mikey Ducati
Xer Cloud Consortium
43
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Posted - 2013.11.14 00:41:00 -
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I happen to enjoy the change of pace. And yes, I don't mind helping CCP collect data. I accept the challenge. |
Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
616
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Posted - 2013.11.14 00:44:00 -
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calvin b wrote:The black Eagle is a beautiful suit and if hit detection and TTK was reasonable this would be a fun suit to run. I love the suit myself and cant wait to use them, but at the current time it only takes someone to breath on you as a scout and you die. I would just mothball them and wait for a another day.
Also CCP I have one question, how did you expect a scout suit in today's environment to kill 10 individuals so they could receive 1 of the same suit as a reward.
switch mlt to basic shield
switch AR to std NK
switch Shotgun to highest tier sniper you can fit
redline camp
Scout, Tanker, Dropship Pilot, AV'r
Alts - Medrean Delt / Moselder Telend (Pure Innocence) / Mledean Delt (Capsuleer)
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Oswald Rehnquist
548
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Posted - 2013.11.14 00:47:00 -
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Mossellia Delt wrote:laughing at all you people thinking this is bad, this is what scouts deal with every day. Maybe you'll understand why scouts *****.
Personally, Iv been having no problems getting 16 - 20 kills a match with one of these suits. Thinking its the AR since its an easy scrub weapon and its my first time using one on a scout suit since im not spec'd into them.
LOL, same, this is probably thy most hilarious event ever.
You can literally tell who plays scouts and who doesn't, because scout tactics just took a major IQ drop with the addition of these new try on scouts, my kdr has been in the 2.25-3.5 range all day because of all the scout fledglings. And this is with my bpo scout (no points into scout, waiting for cal scout) with duel pistols cleaning up the floor with ar/shotgun black eagles.
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XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO
Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
510
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Posted - 2013.11.14 00:54:00 -
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im fully spec'd into gallente scout
and this suit does not suck your just used too EZmode assault & logistics
I used a few on an account thats not spec'd and I went 16-4
it has more base speed then a regular scout so you dont need any reds
if your level 5 in cores you can run a complex extender
if you remove the shotty for a toxin or exile you will gain a little more fitting room
one complex damage mod will apply to both weapons
there may be other hidden stats in the suit your not aware of
like speed, dampening, range or even precision
SOONGäó
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Lightning Bolt2
From The Mist
344
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Posted - 2013.11.14 01:02:00 -
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lol, assaults get black eagle SCOUTS and then complain that scouts are terribad!
Welcome to my life!
Become a scout today -- and die in 0.1 seconds!!!
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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
5065
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Posted - 2013.11.14 03:08:00 -
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calvin b wrote:The black Eagle is a beautiful suit and if hit detection and TTK was reasonable this would be a fun suit to run. I love the suit myself and cant wait to use them, but at the current time it only takes someone to breath on you as a scout and you die. I would just mothball them and wait for a another day.
Also CCP I have one question, how did you expect a scout suit in today's environment to kill 10 individuals so they could receive 1 of the same suit as a reward.
It's five kills needed. Not ten.
CCP, please fix the Nova Knives. Thank you.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
5065
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Posted - 2013.11.14 03:10:00 -
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Too many non scouts trying to be scouts is about as hilarious as Janet Jackson having a wardrobe malfunction. Lol
CCP, please fix the Nova Knives. Thank you.
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Niuvo
NECROM0NGERS
768
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Posted - 2013.11.14 04:14:00 -
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Aisha Ctarl wrote:Is terribad. I'm thankful for my free copies CCP but I'll be damned if I can get a kill with these ultra gimped suits. The scout life is hard. A round of applause for all those who do this on an everyday basis. With scout mods on the ehp is slightly lower then the black eagle. Welcome to our world. |
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Niuvo
NECROM0NGERS
768
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Posted - 2013.11.14 04:20:00 -
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TechMechMeds wrote:Atiim wrote:ROFL
People cry that only inactive players get them, and scream that they want them too.
People get 50 free copies and say "WTF is this garbage? I don't want that crap!" Indeed, I already had 10, I'm saving them all along with my other vanity suits to sell to collectors, every game has them. So if we don't use them we have 50 free suits to sell to the market? What will CCP gain out of this event? Are they testing something? Is this event useful? |
Broonfondle Majikthies
Bannana Boat Corp Relentless Heroes Alliance
426
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Posted - 2013.11.14 04:21:00 -
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XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO wrote:im fully spec'd into gallente scout
and this suit does not suck your just used too EZmode assault & logistics
I used a few on an account thats not spec'd and I went 16-4
it has more base speed then a regular scout so you dont need any reds
if your level 5 in cores you can run a complex extender
if you remove the shotty for a toxin or exile you will gain a little more fitting room
one complex damage mod will apply to both weapons
there may be other hidden stats in the suit your not aware of
like speed, dampening, range or even precision 1 Damage mod won't effect both weapons - Black Eagle AR is a Sidearm
"We demand rigidly defined areas of doubt and uncertainty!"
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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
5065
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Posted - 2013.11.14 04:24:00 -
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Why do I get the feeling this is CCP's concept of a scout commando?
CCP, please fix the Nova Knives. Thank you.
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LUGMOS
YELLOW JESUS EXP FORCE
99
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Posted - 2013.11.14 04:39:00 -
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I love these suits, but i liked them better in chromo when they had a glowing white trim. And also, how am i supposed to be sneky when i keep seeing YOU HAVE BEEN SCANNED? I wish i had specxedninto Gallente scout, just for this event. I specced into Minnie.
Also, anybody sniping with these thinking they will get moar suits is a bad reader.
The biggest threat to my scout is everything.
My scout is the biggest threat to everything.
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Cass Caul
282
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Posted - 2013.11.14 06:20:00 -
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Broonfondle Majikthies wrote:XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO wrote:im fully spec'd into gallente scout
and this suit does not suck your just used too EZmode assault & logistics
I used a few on an account thats not spec'd and I went 16-4
it has more base speed then a regular scout so you dont need any reds
if your level 5 in cores you can run a complex extender
if you remove the shotty for a toxin or exile you will gain a little more fitting room
one complex damage mod will apply to both weapons
there may be other hidden stats in the suit your not aware of
like speed, dampening, range or even precision 1 Damage mod won't effect both weapons - Black Eagle AR is a Sidearm
Incorrect. Damage mods affect the weapons, not the slots. Running a sidearm damage mod and 2 sidearms gives a bonus to both, not just the one in the sidearm slot. Much like both the Shotgun and the AR benefit from a damage mod.
Just o clarify a few things. The Black Eagle Scout suit was one of my favorite suits when we got them in Chromosome. They were pretty awesome. But they lack Customization. You are railroaded into speed tanking, as the suit has 2 low slots that cannon be modified. It secretly has 1 MLT Kinetic Catalyzerand 1 MLT Cardiac Regulator. It also has a hidden MLT Shield extender that you also can't change. (this is what the stats reflect in change from G/1-series to Black Eagle)
But if you used the Black Eagle Scout suits in Chromosome you'll notice 2 big differences: 1) TTK has increased and made the shotgun under-powered in CQC. (2) The base speed of the suit has deceased to reflect the change in Scot movement and Sprint Speeds from Chromosome to Uprising. (3) The Black Eagle Scout suits looked amzing before too, but without the warbarge you probably aren't paying that much attention anymore. It had a white base that the black armor plates went over. And the white bits were shiny! and the black parts were matte. . . hey F'ed it over in th appearance department. But Scout suits just looked better back then
The Black Eagle Scout Suit was badass. Now it is just another Scout suit, under-powered. Fortunately we can use the massive drop in KDR as a hopeful way to solidify the "DEV hugs" the scout suit was promise it would eventually get. More Speed and More damage more scanning! I might run a 701 armored Gallente Scout, but if speed tanking was viable and if the shotgun was a good CQC weapon I would go back to my speed suit in a heart-beat.
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Acturus Galaxy
Happy Pumpkin
174
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Posted - 2013.11.14 06:33:00 -
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I had much fun with the Black Eagle suit scout suit yesterday, ended up with 20-8 in the few matches I exclusively ran in the suit. A few of the deaths was my own fault and a few from cooked core locus grenades. Has been lucky enough to avoid orbital strikes.
I love the combo with shotgun and AR, using the shotgun when sneaking up behind red dots and AR at longer distance when flanking. Will continue to use the suits for the event until I have lost 50 suits, and hopefully will get at least 25 in return. |
Aqua-Regia
561
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Posted - 2013.11.14 07:32:00 -
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Broonfondle Majikthies
Bannana Boat Corp Relentless Heroes Alliance
427
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Posted - 2013.11.14 13:24:00 -
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Cass Caul wrote:Broonfondle Majikthies wrote:XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO wrote:im fully spec'd into gallente scout
and this suit does not suck your just used too EZmode assault & logistics
I used a few on an account thats not spec'd and I went 16-4
it has more base speed then a regular scout so you dont need any reds
if your level 5 in cores you can run a complex extender
if you remove the shotty for a toxin or exile you will gain a little more fitting room
one complex damage mod will apply to both weapons
there may be other hidden stats in the suit your not aware of
like speed, dampening, range or even precision 1 Damage mod won't effect both weapons - Black Eagle AR is a Sidearm Incorrect. Damage mods affect the weapons, not the slots. Running a sidearm damage mod and 2 sidearms gives a bonus to both, not just the one in the sidearm slot. Much like both the Shotgun and the AR benefit from a damage mod. Just o clarify a few things. The Black Eagle Scout suit was one of my favorite suits when we got them in Chromosome. They were pretty awesome. But they lack Customization. You are railroaded into speed tanking, as the suit has 2 low slots that cannon be modified. It secretly has 1 MLT Kinetic Catalyzerand 1 MLT Cardiac Regulator. It also has a hidden MLT Shield extender that you also can't change. (this is what the stats reflect in change from G/1-series to Black Eagle) But if you used the Black Eagle Scout suits in Chromosome you'll notice 2 big differences: 1) TTK has increased and made the shotgun under-powered in CQC. (2) The base speed of the suit has deceased to reflect the change in Scot movement and Sprint Speeds from Chromosome to Uprising. (3) The Black Eagle Scout suits looked amzing before too, but without the warbarge you probably aren't paying that much attention anymore. It had a white base that the black armor plates went over. And the white bits were shiny! and the black parts were matte. . . hey F'ed it over in th appearance department. But Scout suits just looked better back then The Black Eagle Scout Suit was badass. Now it is just another Scout suit, under-powered. Fortunately we can use the massive drop in KDR as a hopeful way to solidify the "DEV hugs" the scout suit was promise it would eventually get. More Speed and More damage more scanning! I might run a 701 armored Gallente Scout, but if speed tanking was viable and if the shotgun was a good CQC weapon I would go back to my speed suit in a heart-beat. Look again.
Black Eagle shotgun - Light weapon Black Eagle Assault rifle - sidearm
"We demand rigidly defined areas of doubt and uncertainty!"
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pseudosnipre
DUST University Ivy League
343
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Posted - 2013.11.14 17:00:00 -
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This is a g/1 (adv) suit: HS: Enhanced kinetic catalyzer (hidden) HS: Enhanced endurance module (hidden) LS: Enhanced shield extender (hidden) LS: Militia shield extender LW: Shotgun SW: Assault Rifle GN: Basic/ADV grenade EQ: none
Observations: -With zero in operation, my AR dispersion is terrible -Got incapacitated by the SG last night: 468 dmg at 7m (non-hs) -Complex precision mod in city environments is useful
Also, there are now SO many scouts: -trying to SG me from 15m while I back up and hose them down with SMG fire -running around in the open trying to play frontline ar assault in a scout suit -too afraid to flank with sg so the peek around corners with their ar to minimize incoming damage
Anyone scout skilled heavily into electronics, SG, and AR should have an easy time off it. Also, grenades are qty 2, reduced radius (1m less than std locus), and damage in between std and adv (450). |
Daxxis KANNAH
Distinct Covert Initiative
449
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Posted - 2013.11.14 17:14:00 -
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Awesome Pantaloons wrote:Just went 6/1 with one of these babies. Slap a enhanced shield extender on it and find a good group to roll with. Hang back in the shadows or follow behind a large group and take advantage of the chaos. Profit. :D
I actually dropped on a dmg mod - it will benefit both weapons.
125 vs 161 shield - no biggie.
The shotgun was actually quite satisfying. Might skill into them in the future though I want a 2 Light Weapon scout class. Maybe I will wait for the cows to... my Minmatar Commando if it isnt super slow. |
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Dominus Fatali
Nox Aeterna Security
652
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Posted - 2013.11.14 17:41:00 -
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Atiim wrote:ROFL
People cry that only inactive players get them, and scream that they want them too.
People get 50 free copies and say "WTF is this garbage? I don't want that crap!" 'Quafe' Scout gk.0 was what I was upset about. 100 copies of a rare proto suit.
Long Live Freedom; Long Live the Federation.
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Cass Caul
290
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Posted - 2013.11.14 20:45:00 -
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Daxxis KANNAH wrote:Awesome Pantaloons wrote:Just went 6/1 with one of these babies. Slap a enhanced shield extender on it and find a good group to roll with. Hang back in the shadows or follow behind a large group and take advantage of the chaos. Profit. :D I actually dropped on a dmg mod - it will benefit both weapons. 125 vs 161 shield - no biggie. The shotgun was actually quite satisfying. Might skill into them in the future though I want a 2 Light Weapon scout class. Maybe I will wait for the cows to... my Minmatar Commando if it isnt super slow.
The Black Eagle is why I was excited for the Commando. Total disappointment when it was released.
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Oswald Rehnquist
565
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Posted - 2013.11.14 21:01:00 -
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Cass Caul wrote:Daxxis KANNAH wrote:Awesome Pantaloons wrote:Just went 6/1 with one of these babies. Slap a enhanced shield extender on it and find a good group to roll with. Hang back in the shadows or follow behind a large group and take advantage of the chaos. Profit. :D I actually dropped on a dmg mod - it will benefit both weapons. 125 vs 161 shield - no biggie. The shotgun was actually quite satisfying. Might skill into them in the future though I want a 2 Light Weapon scout class. Maybe I will wait for the cows to... my Minmatar Commando if it isnt super slow. The Black Eagle is why I was excited for the Commando. Total disappointment when it was released.
Since Eve's recon class has a division between combat recon and force recon, I don't see why you can't include 1 of the 4 scouts to have two light weapon slots. While the idea got shut down when I suggested it a while ago perhaps the gal scout could be the black eagle scout but with a few low slots thrown in there (I think it has them actually but there in use). The tech 3 suits could have the more specialized scout commando / scout saboteur branch otherwise I don't see why having one T2 scout with two light weapons wouldn't hurt especially considering if they are going to branch out they need some resemblance of the function on the lower tech tiers.
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Daxxis KANNAH
Distinct Covert Initiative
449
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Posted - 2013.11.14 21:02:00 -
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Cass Caul wrote:Daxxis KANNAH wrote:Awesome Pantaloons wrote:Just went 6/1 with one of these babies. Slap a enhanced shield extender on it and find a good group to roll with. Hang back in the shadows or follow behind a large group and take advantage of the chaos. Profit. :D I actually dropped on a dmg mod - it will benefit both weapons. 125 vs 161 shield - no biggie. The shotgun was actually quite satisfying. Might skill into them in the future though I want a 2 Light Weapon scout class. Maybe I will wait for the cows to... my Minmatar Commando if it isnt super slow. The Black Eagle is why I was excited for the Commando. Total disappointment when it was released.
I would have made the commando replace the assault suit but switched the speed around with the logis (and obviously rework the slot layouts).
Heavies need a bada$$ 2nd class but unfortunately I cant think of one at the moment |
pseudosnipre
DUST University Ivy League
343
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Posted - 2013.11.14 22:33:00 -
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Perhaps this event is a strategic move to prevent medium frame biitching when the scout commando drops...a token offering, if you will. |
Aisha Ctarl
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1757
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Posted - 2013.11.14 22:34:00 -
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I had no idea that me basically being sad panda over the Black Eagle Suits would garner this much of a response O_O
Go forth, conquer in my Name, and reclaim that which I have given."
- The Scriptures, Book of Reclaiming
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Oswald Rehnquist
566
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Posted - 2013.11.14 22:46:00 -
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Aisha Ctarl wrote:I had no idea that me basically being sad panda over the Black Eagle Suits would garner this much of a response O_O
I've said in a different post, but its the equivalent of giving everybody dropships and watching them crash after 3 seconds of flight, followed by people saying they suck. Dropship pilots would find this amusing due to it being their expertise on an area that is difficult, so in a similar way scouts find this amusing watching people crash and burn in the scout suit.
Its a very sardonic sense of humor to say the least.
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One Eyed King
Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic
13
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Posted - 2013.11.15 05:16:00 -
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I am just glad to be using a suit that has more than 200 hp. Even if it does get scanned all the time.
Nova knifing scout masochist. I would be a sadist, but CCP won't let me.
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GRIM GEAR
Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State
46
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Posted - 2013.11.15 05:34:00 -
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I mainly run adv scout suits and i have yet to try using the black eagle scout suit; so i can not agree or disagree with you at this stage. Though i'm itching to play some dust so i'll be able to edit my post soon with my verdict of the black eage ss.
It's a bird!
No it's a plane!
Never mind it's just my shotgun in your face!
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
457
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Posted - 2013.11.15 05:38:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:I am just glad to be using a suit that has more than 200 hp. Even if it does get scanned all the time. I know what you mean about hp, though I am not getting scanned to often
I am apparently not the only fool
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