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Cody Sietz
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Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.11.12 19:58:00 -
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Or would you rather keep the bonus to sidearms?
Maybe a +2 percent fire rate on projectile light weapons?(just a example)
I'd also like to ask Caldari Assaults the same question. Maybe get the old hybrid reload bonus back? Or something else? |
Xender17
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
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Posted - 2013.11.12 19:59:00 -
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I thought... Caldari was projectile based?
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Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster
Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.11.12 20:05:00 -
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Xender17 wrote:I thought... Caldari was projectile based?
I think they are hybrid/missile based, I could be wrong though. |
Canari Elphus
Ancient Exiles.
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Posted - 2013.11.12 20:05:00 -
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Id rather Minmatar Assaults have a bonus to something like profile dampening or such as it would fit better with the skirmisher/flanker nature of the suit.
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Oswald Rehnquist
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Posted - 2013.11.12 20:05:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:Xender17 wrote:I thought... Caldari was projectile based?
I think they are hybrid/missile based.
specifically rail/missile base
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Zekain K
Expert Intervention
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.11.12 20:08:00 -
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Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster
Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.11.12 20:09:00 -
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Oswald Rehnquist wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:Xender17 wrote:I thought... Caldari was projectile based?
I think they are hybrid/missile based. specifically rail/missile base
Thank you, I my brain sucks.
Canari Elphus wrote:Id rather Minmatar Assaults have a bonus to something like profile dampening or such as it would fit better with the skirmisher/flanker nature of the suit.
I think the Assaults should get a bonus to weapons, it kind of keeps with suit IMO.
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Kallas Hallytyr
Skullbreakers
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Posted - 2013.11.12 20:12:00 -
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Minmatar: Projectile.
Amarr: Laser
Gallente: Hybrid - Blaster and Drones
Caldari: Hybrid - Rail and Missiles. |
Heimdallr69
Imperfect Bastards
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Posted - 2013.11.12 20:14:00 -
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Caldari is rail technology. ..amarr lasers, minmatar is missles projectiles? Galente is plasma biatches....rail= long range, amarr is second longest then minmatar then galente...rail might be projectiles idr though it was either that or minmatar
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Oswald Rehnquist
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Posted - 2013.11.12 20:14:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:Canari Elphus wrote:Id rather Minmatar Assaults have a bonus to something like profile dampening or such as it would fit better with the skirmisher/flanker nature of the suit.
I think the Assaults should get a bonus to weapons, it kind of keeps with suit IMO.
I agree, assaults are going to find their edge over logis through weapon utility bonuses, the amarr have the best example, plus you'd be stepping on scout functionality by getting a profile reduction.
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ReGnYuM
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.11.12 20:15:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:Orad you rather keep the bonus to sidearms?
Maybe a +2 percent fire rate on projectile light weapons?(just a example)
I'd also like to ask Caldari Assaults the same question. Maybe get the old hybrid reload bonus back? Or something else?
I like the side arm bonus a lot. The shield bonus is ******* stupid when the recharge rate is 18.
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Canari Elphus
Ancient Exiles.
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Posted - 2013.11.12 20:19:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:Oswald Rehnquist wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:Xender17 wrote:I thought... Caldari was projectile based?
I think they are hybrid/missile based. specifically rail/missile base Thank you, I my brain sucks. Canari Elphus wrote:Id rather Minmatar Assaults have a bonus to something like profile dampening or such as it would fit better with the skirmisher/flanker nature of the suit.
I think the Assaults should get a bonus to weapons, it kind of keeps with suit IMO.
Yeah, but then it gets tricky with balancing and people crying 'OP' all over the forums.
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Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster
Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.11.12 20:25:00 -
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ReGnYuM wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:Orad you rather keep the bonus to sidearms?
Maybe a +2 percent fire rate on projectile light weapons?(just a example)
I'd also like to ask Caldari Assaults the same question. Maybe get the old hybrid reload bonus back? Or something else? I like the side arm bonus a lot. The shield bonus is ******* stupid when the recharge rate is 18.
Tell me about it, my Gallente suit does not benefit from it at all. |
Jadd Hatchen
Psygod9
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2013.11.12 20:27:00 -
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Kallas Hallytyr wrote:Minmatar: Projectile.
Amarr: Laser
Gallente: Hybrid - Blaster and Drones
Caldari: Hybrid - Rail and Missiles.
To fix this...
Amarr: primarily Lasers secondary drones while using Armor for tanking
Gallente: both blasters and drones while using Armor for tanking
Caldari: both rail guns and missiles while using Shields for tanking
Minmatar: both short range autocannons and long range artillary cannons while being able to choose to Armor or Shield tank, but also receiving either a signature or speed bonus or both as the even the developers can't seem to make up their minds and who really cares as they build their ships from the wrecks of the Amarr ones and hold the rust buckets together with duct tape while patching together scavenged weapons systems to shoot at people with. ;)
PS - Minmatar hate the Amarr and Caldari hate the Galente. |
Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster
Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.11.12 20:28:00 -
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Canari Elphus wrote:
Yeah, but then it gets tricky with balancing and people crying 'OP' all over the forums.
True, but at the end of the day a Assault has gotta Assault. Minnys may not be able to take a punch but they should be able to throw one.
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Dunk Mujunk
RestlessSpirits
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Posted - 2013.11.12 20:29:00 -
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As of right now I don't want any monkeying around on the Min Assault for the simple fact I would be worried it would end up getting nerfed. Personally i'm getting by with it now, and am happy with the way it works for me. I can't deny a speed or dampening boost would be great, but for the sake of dodging the nerf hammer, keep it as is for now, the side arm bonus is good enough. At least in my opinion. |
Vrain Matari
ZionTCD
Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2013.11.12 21:43:00 -
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Canari Elphus wrote:Id rather Minmatar Assaults have a bonus to something like profile dampening or such as it would fit better with the skirmisher/flanker nature of the suit.
I'm thinking this way too. The minmatar assault will never be a tanking suit - to even reach 700 EHP you have to sacrifice basically everything.
The sidearm bonus is nice and has served us all well, but it is basically a bonus to a playstyle that is the opposite of what the suit wants, which is to be a limited-engagement skirmisher/flanker.
Imo the suit shout have the standard assault suit bonus and dual racial level-based boni, both %age-based: one to lower base signature profile and one to increase walking/sprint speed, which would also affect strafe speed.
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Clips A'hoy
The Generals
EoN.
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Posted - 2013.11.12 21:59:00 -
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Uhm... No... I like my 100 bullet clip to rip through heavys.
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ReGnYuM
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.11.12 22:23:00 -
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Vrain Matari wrote:Canari Elphus wrote:Id rather Minmatar Assaults have a bonus to something like profile dampening or such as it would fit better with the skirmisher/flanker nature of the suit.
I'm thinking this way too. The minmatar assault will never be a tanking suit - to even reach 700 EHP you have to sacrifice basically everything. The sidearm bonus is nice and has served us all well, but it is basically a bonus to a playstyle that is the opposite of what the suit wants, which is to be a limited-engagement skirmisher/flanker. Imo the suit shout have the standard assault suit bonus and dual racial level-based boni, both %age-based: one to lower base signature profile and one to increase walking/sprint speed, which would also affect strafe speed.
Min Assault is for 1v1 engagements
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Melchiah ARANeAE
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.11.12 22:25:00 -
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Why not just a 5% increase to projectile/explosive weapon magazine size per level? You'd still get the 100 round SMG, but you'd also get the bonus to the Combat rifle and Mass driver. And yes, I am aware that would give you a 10 round assault mass driver.
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Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster
Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.11.13 00:26:00 -
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Melchiah ARANeAE wrote:Why not just a 5% increase to projectile/explosive weapon magazine size per level? You'd still get the 100 round SMG, but you'd also get the bonus to the Combat rifle and Mass driver. And yes, I am aware that would give you a 10 round assault mass driver.
That's kind of why I worded the way I did xD |
Zahle Undt
Bullet Cluster
Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.11.13 00:32:00 -
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Vrain Matari wrote:Canari Elphus wrote:Id rather Minmatar Assaults have a bonus to something like profile dampening or such as it would fit better with the skirmisher/flanker nature of the suit.
I'm thinking this way too. The minmatar assault will never be a tanking suit - to even reach 700 EHP you have to sacrifice basically everything. The sidearm bonus is nice and has served us all well, but it is basically a bonus to a playstyle that is the opposite of what the suit wants, which is to be a limited-engagement skirmisher/flanker. Imo the suit shout have the standard assault suit bonus and dual racial level-based boni, both %age-based: one to lower base signature profile and one to increase walking/sprint speed, which would also affect strafe speed.
See I see the sidearm bonus as being specifically tied to the one of the whole 2 weapons Minmatar has at the release of Uprising the SMG. I love the bonus to to sidearm ammo because its good for running in spraying a bunch of lead and then hopefully getting the hell out of dodge. Unfortunately that playstyle is harder to do with the much talked about TTK being lower. So I wouldn't mind if the minmatar bonus was changed to magazine capacity of projectile weapons or something of that nature, but the sidearm bonus is pretty cool too. |
Mr Machine Guns
Nyain San
Proficiency V.
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Posted - 2013.11.13 00:33:00 -
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What they should do is when the combat rifle and rail rifle come out is give some kind of bonus to all assault suits for using their weapons tech maybe a big cpu and pg reduction |
Zahle Undt
Bullet Cluster
Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.11.13 00:36:00 -
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Mr Machine Guns wrote:What they should do is when the combat rifle and rail rifle come out is give some kind of bonus to all assault suits for using their weapons tech maybe a big cpu and pg reduction
Hell that would be a better bonus for all assault suits than the paltry 2% per level to shield regen we get now AND it might make assault players a little less butt hurt by logi slayer suits |
Jackof All-Trades
The Southern Legion
The Umbra Combine
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Posted - 2013.11.13 01:56:00 -
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As long as we put the sidearm bonus on the Minmatar Scout
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