Why is uplink spam an issue that needs to be fixed? I mean, sure it's annoying and harder to get WP from spawns but it doesn't seem to be breaking anything and everyone is just hurting themselves by doing it.

Why is uplink spam an issue that needs to be fixed? I mean, sure it's annoying and harder to get WP from spawns but it doesn't seem to be breaking anything and everyone is just hurting themselves by doing it.

add to this no more spawning at letters in a skirmish (which is all PC matches) and uplinks and the life attached to them becomes all the more coveted.

I think it could work and pose great strategic and logistic challenges in a match.

Uplink spam seems to cause lag and makes it difficult to identify what is going on when spawning in due to map clutter.

Lag is the primary concern.

Yes, but I don't want to have to run uplinks 100% of the time in a match to keep the active. I'd say just limit the amount of uplinks on the field. That and make things to where uplinks can't be within x meters of another uplink and remain active, regardless of wether or not they are being dropped by the same person. And prioritize the uplinks in terms of tiers.

For example, If I have a PRO drop uplink, when I place it down the STD drop uplink would be removed if it's within x meters of the other uplink.

How about: you can't deploy more than one uplink at a time no matter what level but the spawn time gets better the higher the level?

Change spawn time

MLT Spawn time - 20 sec
Basic - 10 secs
Adv - 5 secs
Proto - 3 secs

Why is uplink spam an issue that needs to be fixed? I mean, sure it's annoying and harder to get WP from spawns but it doesn't seem to be breaking anything and everyone is just hurting themselves by doing it.

Makes sense, I support changes to the uplinks.

How about: you can't deploy more than one uplink at a time no matter what level but the spawn time gets better the higher the level?

Change spawn time

MLT Spawn time - 20 sec
Basic - 10 secs
Adv - 5 secs
Proto - 3 secs

That's too much of a nerf to begin with. Besides, the longer you stay bleeding out, the shorter your respawn time gets (minimum 3 seconds) before selecting the next spawn point. This practically negates your idea.

My proposal is based on a conversation I had with a scout squad back in the Scouts United chat channel. I propose that there should be an arbitrary cap of the total number of uplinks and nanohives per team or at least within a given quadrant of the map so as to mitigate lag.

All too often I see almost 20 uplinks and some 20 nanohives flooding an entire city with these things making it impossible to see closely what's going on in the overview and it creates lag and frame rate drops due to the processing of these excessive items.

I think the easiest thing would be to make it so no matter what you do, you can only have 1 uplink module on your suit.

It's definitely a pretty big nerf but it would make uplinks more of a prized item. That aside, it isn't a perfect idea.

It's still too much of a nerf for uplinks. I still think my idea of putting a cap per team would be an ideal solution.

Not going to work. One can easily counter that by repeatedly swapping suits at a supply depot fitted with different versions of the uplinks and nanohives.

I'd suggest a hard limit per mercenary. I think the most any single uplink module can deploy is three so that would be my vote. Your limit and placement shouldn't limit any other merc's uplinks. If you want to drop them all in a pile then fine. But, I don't see the point in doing that.

Can someone please explain what the problem with uplink spam?

Aside from what one person said about framerate drop in PC no one seems to have any reasons for why it is a problem.

Is it because you are mad that you are not getting spawn points from your uplinks due to people stacking theirs on top?


Oh an please dont say WP farming for orbitals because no points are awarded until it is used meaning that there was some value in where it was placed.

If you read the thread, the lag and frame rate are the principle issues behind the spam. The server is having to struggle with processing dozens of these equipment items and that is just on one match alone. There are dozens of matches occurring every hour in the game at once with 16vs16 teams. Imagine when the team size increases to say... 24vs24 or 32vs32, etc. It will be a war on lag because of the equipment spam.

After all, EVE usually has anywhere from 20,000 to 40,000 players on simultaneously, along with massive battles much larger than anything Dust 514 could hope to achieve, and yet the EVE side of things seem to hold up pretty well. Dust 514 is lucky to have 2,000 to 4,000 players on at any one time, in smaller matches ... yet this is somehow straining CCP's Tranquility server?

Yeah, if that's the case, then CCP has far bigger issues to worry about.

If *that's* what's straining the server, then CCP has much more serious, underlying issues they need to deal with other than nerfing yet another skill tree that folks have spent skill points on.

And, when you think about it, a dozen spawn points and similar number of nanohives *shouldn't* be straining CCP's server. After all, EVE usually has anywhere from 20,000 to 40,000 players on simultaneously, along with massive battles much larger than anything Dust 514 could hope to achieve, and yet the EVE side of things seem to hold up pretty well. Dust 514 is lucky to have 2,000 to 4,000 players on at any one time, in smaller matches ... yet this is somehow straining CCP's Tranquility server?

Yeah, if that's the case, then CCP has far bigger issues to worry about.

I'd suggest a hard limit per mercenary. I think the most any single uplink module can deploy is three so that would be my vote. Your limit and placement shouldn't limit any other merc's uplinks. If you want to drop them all in a pile then fine. But, I don't see the point in doing that.

Any limit on uplinks / hives is BEGGING for trollage and would probably create MORE server load than what is already there by forcing it to not only do what its doing now but also track placement / order of placement etc..


Lets say you make it so that once you drop your limit no more can be dropped. What happens when some logi drops out of the MCC hits the redline supply depot and immediately spams the limit right there? YOU LOSE, not to mention the fact that so few people would run logi we would probably never see any equipment anyway due to the fact that no one is going to gamble a 100k squishy suit on maybe being able to put his equipment down.

Then lets say instead you simply blow up the earliest placed equipment when a new piece over the limit is dropped, now that same logi waits until you are mid firefight grabs the redline SD and proceeds to remove all of your equipment on the front line. Have fun not getting pushed back with all your hives and uplinks gone.

I can go on and on with the scenarios of how any of the limits is a bad idea but its all hypothetical garbage so I will just get to my point.

FIX THE EFFING SERVER IF ITS LAGGING.
REMOVING PARTS OF THE GAME TO TRY TO WORKAROUND THE SOLUTION LEADS TO A BIG FAT NOTHING.

I believe it would bee too easy to cheese the technical problems if a development team knew they were working with a hard cap.