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Monkey MAC
killer taxi company
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2013.11.12 00:26:00 -
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Umm yes but have you, OP, considered you are playing FPSRPG now, I don't know if you are a fan of RPG games, but one of the mainstays of the genre is the idea of leveling up, that those above you are powerful enough to have an advantage, but can be beaten with an application of skill. That you want better gear, in order to compete with the big boys.
It makes for good aurum gear marketing, makes for addictive gameplay (whith a skill based match making system), makes the game interesting longer than unlocking your favourite weapin.
Now tell me why I am gonna be bothered to level up my suit, stack it with tanking modules for +0.32 seconds of survivability? Why bother? All that effort that SP, that isk, all those matches spent grinding away in advanced gear against other proto users, for 0.32 seconds, but oh that guy has a damage mod pointless, so +0.08 seconds, yay!
Why am I gonna grind for a gun that kills, 0.16 seconds faster? Why bkther putting sp any further than level 1?
RPG games need higher TTK to make it feel like the grind was worth it. Also by uping TTK AND boosting the power of certain mods, you will see less brick tankers. More diverse squads more weapons etc, etc.
TL:DR
Yes TTK is too short, I would like a large helping of RPG in my FPSRPG
The pen is mightier than the sword
The gun is mightier than both
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Monkey MAC
killer taxi company
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2013.11.15 23:25:00 -
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Rowdy Railgunner wrote:CUSE TOWN333 wrote:Rowdy Railgunner wrote:Everyone saying that it is too low need to HTFU. Or would you rather have every tank mod in the game nerfed and not even worth equipping. If you raise time to kill all you are doing is ensuring that proto players get to stomp even harder. It will not give lesser skilled players a chance, it will not bring the game back into balance. What it will do is ensure that everyone with more skill points with have uber tanked suits with the best guns and people in militia and standard gear will effectively be wiped from the playing field.
So enough with the TTK is too low threads. It is not and you are wrong. So what your saying is screw all the people that have been on the grind for months and months saveing SP for there proto suits. So you don't have to spend any time invested into the game and jump in here from day one and kill everyone like its call of duty. That is a slap in the face to everyone who has made it thru the ruff times of being a new player to working for better gear and feeling satisfaction that you made it to your proto gear so some nub like you can run around in a free suit and kill me just as fast as i can kill you because you don't want to put the time into the game like we all had to do. Well if thats how you want it than we shall stack complex damage mods till you die in a mill a second. Have fun in the redline. The people that are good still dominate whilst in proto gear. Smart players, strategic players know what their suit can and can't do and have an escape plan ready. I see them all the time while I run around in my BPO suits. Which I have leveled up accordingly so that they are stronger than just run of the mil militia suits. My gallente militia frontline suit has 700 HPs and an exile AR with proficiency trained up. You can stack all the damage mods you want, but all that will lead to is you crying more about how TTK is too low as I sneak attack you in the head from 50 meters in my "weak" BPO suit. Or I can bring out my expensive suits and go 22-0 or 25-1 like I have in the past. But where is the fun in that? I play PvP games because I like to challenge people, and that is why I use STD and BPO gear. But with all the proposals people have been making it removes all challenge it will just make it into a standard type FPS where unless you use the best gear you are wiped out. You want to live longer fit a better gun and a tank. You want to do max damage fit a couple of complex damage mods, but stop bitching when someone with the skills and a tank kills your glass cannon
So you are happy with playing Hide and seek?
You don't want battle lines, and tactics, you don't want to have to ever ask a hav for support?
You don't won't to bother with equipment, just give everyone a scanner.
Lets be clear here, its not TTK for all weapons that is a problem, its only HROF weapons, like the AR! The weapons were originally balanced with terrible HD in mind! Now all we ask is that the be balanced with the current HD in mind!
The pen is mightier than the sword
The gun is mightier than both
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Monkey MAC
killer taxi company
General Tso's Alliance
981
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Posted - 2013.11.15 23:45:00 -
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Rowdy Railgunner wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:
So you are happy with playing Hide and seek?
You don't want battle lines, and tactics, you don't want to have to ever ask a hav for support?
You don't won't to bother with equipment, just give everyone a scanner.
Typical "I HAZ PROTO SO I SHOULD BE ABLE TO STAND IN OPEN AND PWN" scrub. Warfare is hide and seek, that is why billions and billions of dollars and hundreds of years have been spent trying to perfect camouflage. That's why soldiers are trained to run from cover to cover, providing fire support, flanking maneuvers, jamming enemy electronics, encrypting messages.......You don't face an enemy head on unless you want to lose or have no other choice. And actually I do use equipment on my minny logi in the frontlines. I scan, repair, drop uplinks and stab people that fall around me with my dirty needles.
Oooh look at that type cast, I love how you think I am a Proto User, warfare IS currently hide and seek. In the REAL WORLD, but in the real world we don't have shields and armour, we have a flimsy bulletproof vest.
But you miss the point, this game was always about the long TTK its one of the things that made it unique, it wasn't as simple as your looking the wrong way, you're dead!
People came to this game wanting to escape the short TTK of COD, WE the MAJORITY don't want another game of mindless slaughter! WE WANT A THINKING MANS SHOOTER. Where it isn't down to having a better gun or better tank that determines life or death, but how squads work together to overcome enemies, how peopel make suits do things other's didn't even think possible.
Im tired of short TTK, that's why I came here and this rate, it's why I'll leave to!
The pen is mightier than the sword
The gun is mightier than both
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Monkey MAC
killer taxi company
General Tso's Alliance
988
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Posted - 2013.11.16 09:50:00 -
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Rowdy Railgunner wrote:If you use proto and you die fast.... YOU ****** UP. It is not the games fault or the fact that you are too easy to kill. I held objective A in the one map with the silo that B is on top of it and people can jump into it, BY MYSELF, until people saw I was still down there and they stopped coming. I was in proto at the time, and I killed everyone that came at me, bro. Solo denial of an objective in my proto suit during a FW match. And you people want to give me more ability to slaughter the masses with increased time to kill? I am not even in the top echelon of good players and an entire team stopped attacking one guy in a Gallente proto assault suit. Yeah, you people have no idea about how good TTK actually is right now. A proper proto player will die at most, never, against BPO and STD players. Moping out entire squads of them...ADV guys you have a chance, but let the forums dictate CCP and unless you bring proto... Well, you may as well not even exist.
Please, stop with the ********.
If you managed to do that, in this patch, you were using a tactic called camping, a twitch shooter tactic. Now I guess based on your responses you play with an assault rifle? or prehaps the scrambler?
Now the thing is you assume that because we don't like the current state of play, we all use proto and want to stand out in the open butchering people like rambo. We don't most people agree with me when I say 1.4 was nearly perfect, just a little bit longer would have been perfect!
We want trench warfare style battles, we want people exchanging shots behind cover, not mexican standoffs, we don't want 1 man area denial, we want squads to have to use tactics, not wolf packs and we don't want to win based on who fired first!
The pen is mightier than the sword
The gun is mightier than both
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