DUST Search - BUFF the laser.

Alam Storm wrote:

Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:

Why??

In 1.7 ARs and ASCR are getting a range buff makeing the laser pointless to use.

I.e. in 1.7 with a laser be it basic, advanced or proto the range is hard capped at 84m and versus the ARs or ASCR at 90m the situation is the laser is doing 1% damage versus the much higher damage of an AR or ASCR and by the time the laser user manages to close the gap to be doing damage at 84m the problem is that by then the laser user is dead.

Its pointless to use any laser but the basic laser since all laser weapons have the same range.

Just tired of it being AR514.

Just playing Dust 514 until Black Friday then its on to other PS3 games and PS4 games so Dust 514 is getting benched to hardly any playtime.

And if no changes to lasers in 1.7??

Then I will just hit delete on this game and move on.

your an idiot with the AR the further the target is the more dispersion it will have there for will need more bullets to hit the laser guy if the laser got in range it will eat the AR before the AR can take its shields down

the laser shoots in a strait line there is no dispersion that i know of

either quit ya Biatching and play or quit there will be 1 less noob who thinks there gun should be better then everyone elses on the game


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Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 927	Posted - 2013.11.11 06:35:00 - [1] - Quote Why?? In 1.7 ARs and ASCR are getting a range buff makeing the laser pointless to use. I.e. in 1.7 with a laser be it basic, advanced or proto the range is hard capped at 84m and versus the ARs or ASCR at 90m the situation is the laser is doing 1% damage versus the much higher damage of an AR or ASCR and by the time the laser user manages to close the gap to be doing damage at 84m the problem is that by then the laser user is dead. Its pointless to use any laser but the basic laser since all laser weapons have the same range. Just tired of it being AR514. Just playing Dust 514 until Black Friday then its on to other PS3 games and PS4 games so Dust 514 is getting benched to hardly any playtime. And if no changes to lasers in 1.7?? Then I will just hit delete on this game and move on.
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 927	Posted - 2013.11.11 08:58:00 - [2] - Quote Talos Vagheitan wrote: Gotta love the "BUFF MY GUN OR I QUIT" posts Your sig says you love a balanced game but what you really mean is sniper does not count, laser does not count, shotgun does not count, HMG does not count, etc. I see an AR fanboy since every time I see you its GEK........lol.
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 927	Posted - 2013.11.11 09:19:00 - [3] - Quote Text Grant wrote: Actually they do crazy DPS in their range. So they need no buff. Sorry, bye! :) Geez! another AR fanboy. What a surprise!!........sarcasm. The laser is hard capped at 84m and at 85m or more the do .17 per bullet. So wheres that "crazy damage"?? Oh yeah get in closer as the new rifles are dealing damage to you. Like when the TAR was OP and the response was get in closer........lol!! Folks just died before they managed to get in close.
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 927	Posted - 2013.11.11 09:33:00 - [4] - Quote Text Grant wrote: It's a nitch weapon. It does crazy DPS in its optimal range. If you don't like it use the scrambler rifle, or sniper rifle. It's not meant to kill at all ranges. Are you leaving or not? Good attitude and with folks like you in AR514 we went from 9226 online player counts to BELOW 5000 during a TRIPLE SP event....lol!! Do we have 1.7 yet?? Just waiting for Black Friday.
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 927	Posted - 2013.11.11 09:56:00 - [5] - Quote dogmanpig wrote: effective range damage =30% damage in CCP terms With an AR you get that 30% damage past optimal. With a laser you do not since you need two or three complex damage mods to get some kills. But even with all that at 85m you are doing 1% damage past the optimal window VERSUS 30% damage being done by AS rifle, ARs and the new rifles. So I am not asking for any AR nerfs but instead just asking for a small laser buff since otherwise its pointless to use the laser in 1.7 And right now its pointless to use anything but the basic laser since the advanced and proto versions suck. All three have the same range and all three do 17 per bullet. Basic laser is the best option out of three bad choices.
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 934	Posted - 2013.11.12 08:15:00 - [6] - Quote Alam Storm wrote: Tech Ohm Eaven wrote: Why?? In 1.7 ARs and ASCR are getting a range buff makeing the laser pointless to use. I.e. in 1.7 with a laser be it basic, advanced or proto the range is hard capped at 84m and versus the ARs or ASCR at 90m the situation is the laser is doing 1% damage versus the much higher damage of an AR or ASCR and by the time the laser user manages to close the gap to be doing damage at 84m the problem is that by then the laser user is dead. Its pointless to use any laser but the basic laser since all laser weapons have the same range. Just tired of it being AR514. Just playing Dust 514 until Black Friday then its on to other PS3 games and PS4 games so Dust 514 is getting benched to hardly any playtime. And if no changes to lasers in 1.7?? Then I will just hit delete on this game and move on. your an idiot with the AR the further the target is the more dispersion it will have there for will need more bullets to hit the laser guy if the laser got in range it will eat the AR before the AR can take its shields down the laser shoots in a strait line there is no dispersion that i know of either quit ya Biatching and play or quit there will be 1 less noob who thinks there gun should be better then everyone elses on the game you bring a laser and I will bring an ezmode Duvolle , Krin or a Balac ar operations level five, ar proficiency level five, ar shapshooter level five, ar reload level five, ar reload proficiency level five= EZMODE
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 936	Posted - 2013.11.12 19:11:00 - [7] - Quote low genius wrote: if you want an lr buff, then you can run an amarr assault suit. that is all. Tried that and I want my SP back. Why? Amarr Assault 2 complex damage mods plus basic laser. But I get better results from Ammar Logistics plus basic laser since I can fit three complex damage mods and get more damage and thus more kills.
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 936	Posted - 2013.11.13 05:55:00 - [8] - Quote Mordecai Sanguine wrote: Tech Ohm Eaven wrote: low genius wrote: if you want an lr buff, then you can run an amarr assault suit. that is all. Tried that and I want my SP back. Why? Amarr Assault 2 complex damage mods plus basic laser. But I get better results from Ammar Logistics plus basic laser since I can fit three complex damage mods and get more damage and thus more kills. Yep ! And Amarr Assault make than you can shoot longer with Laser. What the point ? I mean assault rifle DPS is better than Laser even when laser is at optimal range. What's the point about shooting longer while you make less damage and the most important point...you're already dead. Yeah. Start of match 1 kill five deaths using laser then decided to run Duvolle AR and finished match 19 and 5.
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 938	Posted - 2013.11.15 21:46:00 - [9] - Quote .
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 939	Posted - 2013.11.16 15:32:00 - [10] - Quote 1.7 means laser : its complete but obsolete tomorrows become yesterday

Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 939	Posted - 2013.11.16 20:12:00 - [11] - Quote Smooth Assassin wrote: AR are getting a range nerf, and i bet its 1m less FALSE!! ARs are getting a range BUFF. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=117279&find=unread
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 940	Posted - 2013.11.19 00:47:00 - [12] - Quote .
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 949	Posted - 2013.11.19 20:01:00 - [13] - Quote Korvin Lomont wrote: Joel II X wrote: The laser is fine. People kill me faster than a duvolle in the right hands. Perhaps it needs tweaking, but perhaps more variety between the tiers. You are right I can easily kill a Duvolle User with a Laser Rifle in my optimal Range and outside the Duvolles optimal range but this is simply by design. If its the other way round a Duvolle will win anytime. So here is not the big problem, the problem comes with the new rifles to be precise with the Rail Rifle. The RR will have better DPS, more Range and less damage falloff this thing will simply make the LR obsolote in its current state. BTW the same will be mostly true for the current AR it will most likely be outperformed by the AsCR and CR as both have more Range and basicly the same DPS. This concept is somewhat stupid. Instead of creating real niches for every kind of AR CCP creates just improved copies of one AR this is really sad and CCP wasted a big oppertunity for real diversity here. Agreed.
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 949	Posted - 2013.11.20 01:59:00 - [14] - Quote cooldudesuper1 wrote: LOL on skirmishes if im messing round with a lazer, i get like 30/2 in a basic frame, lazers are still OP, just they dont have 250M range, so GTFO Did you bother reading any part of my post on why lasers will be useless once 1.7 hits?? I am guessing a rotund no.
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 949	Posted - 2013.11.20 02:09:00 - [15] - Quote Heavenly Daughter wrote: Talos Vagheitan wrote: Gotta love the "BUFF MY GUN OR I QUIT" posts Quite and if it's not this weapon it will be the next one, or the next blah blah blah. ! I say good job!! on a stance like that. Once 1.7 makes lasers worthless its just HTFU? You see we used to be at 9220 player counts but we got HTFU in response to unkillable LLAVs, TAC spam, core flaylock spam, fused contact grenade spam, worthless hmg builds, useless scout builds. And the players began to leave to the point of a triple sp event and player counts were LESS than 6000 then a bit later at another triple sp event and player counts were LESS than 5000. Perhaps when player counts are LESS than 2000 some folks may bother to stop and read about worthless weapons that are not ARs?? Now excuse me while I go see whats the sneak preview of the Fallout Four website that Bethesda has a countdown timer on.
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 949	Posted - 2013.11.20 02:15:00 - [16] - Quote Alena Ventrallis wrote: Simply make the sweet spot bigger. Say 40m to 84m. Yeah. Now back to Three Dog!!