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SANS PEUR america69 13	Posted - 2013.11.11 02:08:00 - [1] - Quote YOU MAKE ME LAUGH..... this is a load of b.s..... if you are gonna try to scam us like this again ill be pulling my alt out and give it to a corp who needs it.... or pays me..... i thought you had done this for a good cause.... but this is really shady, sheisty, and way to obvious btw.
Rowdy Railgunner Xer Cloud Consortium 119	Posted - 2013.11.11 02:13:00 - [2] - Quote 2 PC matches in the next 24 hours.
SANS PEUR america69 15	Posted - 2013.11.11 02:16:00 - [3] - Quote lol ill be there
Michael Arck Anubis Prime Syndicate 1797	Posted - 2013.11.11 02:17:00 - [4] - Quote I laughed when I read "for a good cause". So I guess 95 percent tax rate and everyone is made a director wasn't any warning sign of what you were stepping into, huh? So where's the scam?
Rowdy Railgunner Xer Cloud Consortium 119	Posted - 2013.11.11 02:21:00 - [5] - Quote Also you have to remember this. ISK reward is going to be taken out of FW in the coming months. So when you do that the tax rate will not apply to you. Then you will be able to make money selling LP store items. So where you think there is a scam, I see opportunity.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 5040	Posted - 2013.11.11 02:27:00 - [6] - Quote /popcorn CCP, please fix the Nova Knives. Thank you.
Viktor Hadah Jr Negative-Impact Cult of War 996	Posted - 2013.11.11 02:28:00 - [7] - Quote Rowdy Railgunner wrote: Also you have to remember this. ISK reward is going to be taken out of FW in the coming months. So when you do that the tax rate will not apply to you. Then you will be able to make money selling LP store items. So where you think there is a scam, I see opportunity. People see opportunity in lotteries also, i'll leave it at that... For the Empire! Dual tanking is a sin. Well fuck me I can say fuck in my sig, who knew?
Rowdy Railgunner Xer Cloud Consortium 120	Posted - 2013.11.11 02:47:00 - [8] - Quote Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: Rowdy Railgunner wrote: Also you have to remember this. ISK reward is going to be taken out of FW in the coming months. So when you do that the tax rate will not apply to you. Then you will be able to make money selling LP store items. So where you think there is a scam, I see opportunity. People see opportunity in lotteries also, i'll leave it at that... This system is a lotto. Don't get mad because you didn't win the powerball.
Mikey Ducati Xer Cloud Consortium 2	Posted - 2013.11.11 02:50:00 - [9] - Quote Apparently the corporation upsets the boy scouts club of Dust 514. You know who they are. Thanks to the corporation, Dust is fun again. Order is for the submissive. Chaos is for the visionaries.
SANS PEUR america69 15	Posted - 2013.11.11 02:59:00 - [10] - Quote Rowdy Railgunner wrote: Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: Rowdy Railgunner wrote: Also you have to remember this. ISK reward is going to be taken out of FW in the coming months. So when you do that the tax rate will not apply to you. Then you will be able to make money selling LP store items. So where you think there is a scam, I see opportunity. People see opportunity in lotteries also, i'll leave it at that... This system is a lotto. Don't get mad because you didn't win the powerball. nooo... the system was supposed to be a give and take thing. you are the kinda people that ****** that up ....

ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 412	Posted - 2013.11.11 03:00:00 - [11] - Quote I joined because I had 50,000,000 ISK that just kept growing and I would NEVER use that much. I figured that i'd just join up so that others who need it could use whatever else I acquired. That's what I remember reading where I first heard of this. I liked the idea of the wallet growing rapidly. I figured that this would allow other players to take what they needed and still have it growing huge enough to make taking it worth while. As it turns out, people just take it out as soon as anything goes in. Taking out the tiny ISK payout every few minutes. I was in the corp for two days (1 and a half?) and not once did I see ISK in the wallet. Never being in a corp, I figured it was just busted or something. Wouldn't call it a scam, It is what it is and it could've worked that way, just disappointing. I'll just have to stick to being a roaming logi to help people out.
Jadek Menaheim Xer Cloud Consortium 280	Posted - 2013.11.11 03:45:00 - [12] - Quote ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals wrote: I joined because I had 50,000,000 ISK that just kept growing and I would NEVER use that much. I figured that i'd just join up so that others who need it could use whatever else I acquired. That's what I remember reading where I first heard of this. I liked the idea of the wallet growing rapidly. I figured that this would allow other players to take what they needed and still have it growing huge enough to make taking it worth while. As it turns out, people just take it out as soon as anything goes in. Taking out the tiny ISK payout every few minutes. I was in the corp for two days (1 and a half?) and not once did I see ISK in the wallet. Never being in a corp, I figured it was just busted or something. Wouldn't call it a scam, It is what it is and it could've worked that way, just disappointing. I'll just have to stick to being a roaming logi to help people out. Well, its unfortunate to see you go. However, I do implore you to create a corporation around the ideals and mindset that you wish you see in dust. If this system does not work for you, forge your own. As for our growing party, we will continue to cater to an alluring appeal of creative chaos in the DUST 514 sandbox. [sig=hex.dec]4d7920313333372048617830727a2078706c6f747a20522058706f7364206259206c766c2035204330646562386b727a[/sig]
Jadu Wen Xer Cloud Consortium 146	Posted - 2013.11.11 03:46:00 - [13] - Quote All in all, I created this and gave it to Jadek as a social experiment of open access. If this is what it evolves into (after 4 days) I am perfectly fine with that. Keep going strong Jadek, don't quit! GûÆGûêGûæGûæGûÆGûê GûÆGûêGûÇGûÇGûÇ GûÆGûêGûäGûæGûÆGûê GûÆGûêGûÆGûêGûÆGûê GûÆGûêGûÇGûÇGûÇ GûÆGûêGûÆGûêGûÆGûê GûÆGûêGûäGûÇGûäGûê GûÆGûêGûäGûäGûä GûÆGûêGûæGûæGûÇGûê ? SoonGäó
MySpaceTom Xer Cloud Consortium 38	Posted - 2013.11.11 03:48:00 - [14] - Quote ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals wrote: I joined because I had 50,000,000 ISK that just kept growing and I would NEVER use that much. I'll just have to stick to being a roaming logi to help people out. If you had that much to spare why didn't you simply donate it to people directly in the corp. Jadek does that all the time. 4920616d204a6164656b204d656e616865696d277320526167696e672042696c652044756374
Jadek Menaheim Xer Cloud Consortium 280	Posted - 2013.11.11 03:51:00 - [15] - Quote MySpaceTom wrote: ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals wrote: I joined because I had 50,000,000 ISK that just kept growing and I would NEVER use that much. I'll just have to stick to being a roaming logi to help people out. If you had that much to spare why didn't you simply donate it to people directly in the corp. Jadek does that all the time. I appreciate you trying to bolster my name Tom. Yet, I think these people have had too much past experience with isk doublers and tripplers, and the "good faith investments" that those guys make to bring in future business. [sig=hex.dec]4d7920313333372048617830727a2078706c6f747a20522058706f7364206259206c766c2035204330646562386b727a[/sig]
Jadek Menaheim Xer Cloud Consortium 280	Posted - 2013.11.11 03:53:00 - [16] - Quote Rowdy Railgunner wrote: 2 PC matches in the next 24 hours. Yep. And nobody can steal the equipment and items that you farm from those matches. That's an honest guarantee! [sig=hex.dec]4d7920313333372048617830727a2078706c6f747a20522058706f7364206259206c766c2035204330646562386b727a[/sig]
Cenex Langly D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 362	Posted - 2013.11.11 04:00:00 - [17] - Quote SANS PEUR wrote: YOU MAKE ME LAUGH..... this is a load of b.s..... if you are gonna try to scam us like this again ill be pulling my alt out and give it to a corp who needs it.... or pays me..... i thought you had done this for a good cause.... but this is really shady, sheisty, and way to obvious btw. You should have known this was a scam. Any time someone offers to GIVE YOU MONEY that should be a hint in your dinosaur sized brain that "THIS IS A SCAM". I've told all my corp mates time and time again. If it's FREE, It's a SCAM. If you can remember those few words then you will do well in the future. Consider this a life lesson: "IF IT'S FREE, IT'S A SCAM" Director (Management) D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
VAHZZ The dyst0pian Corporation 121	Posted - 2013.11.11 04:01:00 - [18] - Quote Jadek/Nixon, i respect you bro. You will always be the true Nixon to me! o7 The merc with a mouth - beware of random bouts of insanity! i should make an Everything Nixon Corp
Jadek Menaheim Xer Cloud Consortium 287	Posted - 2013.11.11 04:19:00 - [19] - Quote VAHZZ wrote: Jadek/Nixon, i respect you bro. You will always be the true Nixon to me! o7 Have I ever introduced you to Checkers? This is a lovely Cocker Spaniel. Wouldn't you agree? (Pay no attention to the isk that has gently been lifted away.) [sig=hex.dec]4d7920313333372048617830727a2078706c6f747a20522058706f7364206259206c766c2035204330646562386b727a[/sig]
Viktor Hadah Jr Negative-Impact Cult of War 1005	Posted - 2013.11.11 05:05:00 - [20] - Quote Jadek Menaheim wrote: Rowdy Railgunner wrote: 2 PC matches in the next 24 hours. Yep. And nobody can steal the equipment and items that you farm from those matches. That's an honest guarantee! If you get to do any farming, going to be hard from all the team killing i'm doing. For the Empire! Dual tanking is a sin. Well fuck me I can say fuck in my sig, who knew?

SANS PEUR america69 18	Posted - 2013.11.11 08:04:00 - [21] - Quote Jadu Wen wrote: All in all, I created this and gave it to Jadek as a social experiment of open access. If this is what it evolves into (after 4 days) I am perfectly fine with that. Keep going strong Jadek, don't quit! this, was supposed to be as jadu said Quote: social experiment when you false advertise like that you show, sheisty business tactics and that automatically points me to SCAM...... i believe this could and should go in a better direction jadek and i am more than willing to help you do that. but right now, i think you are trying to farm isk from other players and that is wrong.... specially off of new players.... they dont know any better
Michael Arck Anubis Prime Syndicate 1799	Posted - 2013.11.11 08:17:00 - [22] - Quote The social experiment involved making everyone of that corporation director and setting the tax rate to 95 percent. To my understanding, any member can take from that pot at any given point of time. That's the experiment, letting nature take its course on its own volition. I don't know what on earth you keep rambling about.
Jadek Menaheim Xer Cloud Consortium 301	Posted - 2013.11.11 10:12:00 - [23] - Quote Hello, Dust Mercs, I'm here to teach you about trying Dust today with the friend at PS3 party. Yes, you and all of you friends can get together on multiple TV screens and become the sultans of dust of by coordinating ISK transfers while feeding us counter intelligence on your actions. Welcome to Dust 514, the only Console FPS that you can turn the corp wallet into a full fledged meta game. ^ That stuff makes news articles my friend. And interesting press if something that Dust need. I believe you agree with me on that point. [sig=hex.dec]4d7920313333372048617830727a2078706c6f747a20522058706f7364206259206c766c2035204330646562386b727a[/sig]
Jadu Wen Xer Cloud Consortium 150	Posted - 2013.11.11 10:14:00 - [24] - Quote Battlefield 4 and Planetside 2 have got nothing on that ! Long live Dust! GûÆGûêGûæGûæGûÆGûê GûÆGûêGûÇGûÇGûÇ GûÆGûêGûäGûæGûÆGûê GûÆGûêGûÆGûêGûÆGûê GûÆGûêGûÇGûÇGûÇ GûÆGûêGûÆGûêGûÆGûê GûÆGûêGûäGûÇGûäGûê GûÆGûêGûäGûäGûä GûÆGûêGûæGûæGûÇGûê ? SoonGäó
dustwaffle Xer Cloud Consortium 650	Posted - 2013.11.11 11:01:00 - [25] - Quote SANS PEUR wrote: Jadu Wen wrote: All in all, I created this and gave it to Jadek as a social experiment of open access. If this is what it evolves into (after 4 days) I am perfectly fine with that. Keep going strong Jadek, don't quit! this, was supposed to be as jadu said Quote: social experiment when you false advertise like that you show, sheisty business tactics and that automatically points me to SCAM...... i believe this could and should go in a better direction jadek and i am more than willing to help you do that. but right now, i think you are trying to farm isk from other players and that is wrong.... specially off of new players.... they dont know any better 'Social Experiment' - The conditions of the experiment: Tax rate is 95% No one is vetted on entry Everyone is a director Everyone can view, access, and take/donate money from the corp wallet at ANYTIME. That was the advertisement, where's does it say that people WON'T attempt to leech off it? Just because you make a false assumption about how something should be, doesn't mean it is Looks like you lost the game, thanks for playing and come again later.
KalOfTheRathi Nec Tributis 857	Posted - 2013.11.11 11:11:00 - [26] - Quote SANS PEUR wrote: YOU MAKE ME LAUGH..... this is a load of b.s..... if you are gonna try to scam us like this again ill be pulling my alt out and give it to a corp who needs it.... or pays me..... i thought you had done this for a good cause.... but this is really shady, sheisty, and way to obvious btw. Welcome to New Eden. Aka CCP's home for gankers, thieves, scammers and EVE scum.
Jadek Menaheim Xer Cloud Consortium 304	Posted - 2013.11.11 17:29:00 - [27] - Quote KalOfTheRathi wrote: SANS PEUR wrote: YOU MAKE ME LAUGH..... this is a load of b.s..... if you are gonna try to scam us like this again ill be pulling my alt out and give it to a corp who needs it.... or pays me..... i thought you had done this for a good cause.... but this is really shady, sheisty, and way to obvious btw. Welcome to New Eden. Aka CCP's home for gankers, thieves, scammers and EVE scum. Just happy to bring it out in force upon Dust. Thanks corpmates for making this system possible. Without you there is no Xer Cloud Consortium. Your crooked CEO Jadek 'Nixon' Menaheim is tremendously proud of you all. [sig=hex.dec]4d7920313333372048617830727a2078706c6f747a20522058706f7364206259206c766c2035204330646562386b727a[/sig]
MySpaceTom Xer Cloud Consortium 39	Posted - 2013.11.11 17:32:00 - [28] - Quote We appreciate your iskies SANS PEUR. Excuse me while I TK you with the contact grenades I purchased with those funds 4920616d204a6164656b204d656e616865696d277320526167696e672042696c652044756374
Michael Epic The Neutral Zone 141	Posted - 2013.11.11 17:35:00 - [29] - Quote Show me 1 billion isk and I'll be impressed lol
Jadek Menaheim Xer Cloud Consortium 304	Posted - 2013.11.11 17:44:00 - [30] - Quote Michael Epic wrote: Show me 1 billion isk and I'll be impressed lol It's possible that isk figure may come into play eventually, however realize that subversion of preexisting systems works well too with gradual change. Our member base continues to grow as people are ready for a different system that brings out a novel type of gameplay that is prevalent in EVE online, but sorely lacking in Dust 514. If you don't like our brand of meta gaming, don't join. No one is forcing you to join (except my continued promotion on the forums ). .... .... .... Search XERCC and join the best band of thieves and crooks today. -This message is approved by CEO Jadek 'Nixon' Menaheim. [sig=hex.dec]4d7920313333372048617830727a2078706c6f747a20522058706f7364206259206c766c2035204330646562386b727a[/sig]

Michael Epic The Neutral Zone 142	Posted - 2013.11.11 17:52:00 - [31] - Quote Jadek Menaheim wrote: Michael Epic wrote: Show me 1 billion isk and I'll be impressed lol It's possible that isk figure may come into play eventually, however realize that subversion of preexisting systems works well too with gradual change. Our member base continues to grow as people are ready for a different system that brings out a novel type of gameplay that is prevalent in EVE online, but sorely lacking in Dust 514. If you don't like our brand of meta gaming, don't join. No one is forcing you to join (except my continued promotion on the forums ). .... .... .... Search XERCC and join the best band of thieves and crooks today. -This message is approved by CEO Jadek 'Nixon' Menaheim. What do you mean come into play eventually? I'll have 1 billion isk in like 39 days. Trying to hustle me a crap ton of money to restock my fitting x10 over, throw some ISK in the corp wallet and donate some to all the teammates I'm close too in my corp. If you don't know how to get a billion isk right now...you aint thinking baby and its time to put your thinkin' cap on.
Jadek Menaheim Xer Cloud Consortium 305	Posted - 2013.11.11 18:17:00 - [32] - Quote Michael Epic wrote: Jadek Menaheim wrote: Michael Epic wrote: Show me 1 billion isk and I'll be impressed lol It's possible that isk figure may come into play eventually, however realize that subversion of preexisting systems works well too with gradual change. Our member base continues to grow as people are ready for a different system that brings out a novel type of gameplay that is prevalent in EVE online, but sorely lacking in Dust 514. If you don't like our brand of meta gaming, don't join. No one is forcing you to join (except my continued promotion on the forums ). .... .... .... Search XERCC and join the best band of thieves and crooks today. -This message is approved by CEO Jadek 'Nixon' Menaheim. What do you mean come into play eventually? I'll have 1 billion isk in like 39 days. Trying to hustle me a crap ton of money to restock my fitting x10 over, throw some ISK in the corp wallet and donate some to all the teammates I'm close too in my corp. If you don't know how to get a billion isk right now...you aint thinking baby and its time to put your thinkin' cap on. If you're talking about personal hustling, well damn sir, I can make 1 billion faster than 39 days (that's quite specific) just by skimming off the corp wallet as simple pub battle taxes roll through. A full squad of 6 turns in about 900,000 isk every 6-7 minutes with collected taxes. [sig=hex.dec]4d7920313333372048617830727a2078706c6f747a20522058706f7364206259206c766c2035204330646562386b727a[/sig]
Dust Junky 4Life Shitstorm Inc 153	Posted - 2013.11.11 18:47:00 - [33] - Quote Michael Epic wrote: Jadek Menaheim wrote: Michael Epic wrote: Show me 1 billion isk and I'll be impressed lol It's possible that isk figure may come into play eventually, however realize that subversion of preexisting systems works well too with gradual change. Our member base continues to grow as people are ready for a different system that brings out a novel type of gameplay that is prevalent in EVE online, but sorely lacking in Dust 514. If you don't like our brand of meta gaming, don't join. No one is forcing you to join (except my continued promotion on the forums Search XERCC and join the best band of thieves and crooks today. -This message is approved by CEO Jadek 'Nixon' Menaheim. What do you mean come into play eventually? I'll have 1 billion isk in like 39 days. Trying to hustle me a crap ton of money to restock my fitting x10 over, throw some ISK in the corp wallet and donate some to all the teammates I'm close too in my corp. If you don't know how to get a billion isk right now...you aint thinking baby and its time to put your thinkin' cap on. I will give you 1 million isk for your secret. I will never tell another soul........... Post bellow please. A Shitstorm is coming...........
can't play dust Lazy Bunglers 13	Posted - 2013.11.11 18:57:00 - [34] - Quote Don't dissmis such systems out of hand yet. Even if you see ISK constantly leaking out of wallet this is actually good. Let me explain. By analyzing who contributes most to the corp wallet and takes least (better yet none) you can find out who is the needle in a New Eden haystack. Everybody else is just a haystack. Finding that needles is a best thing that might happen to you in this st hole... Just think about it for a moment Good luck Lazy Bunglers open for bussiness: 90%,+ISK**
Awry Barux Xer Cloud Consortium 301	Posted - 2013.11.11 19:44:00 - [35] - Quote ISK is a crutch, get good
can't play dust Lazy Bunglers 13	Posted - 2013.11.11 20:02:00 - [36] - Quote Awry Barux wrote: ISK is a crutch, get good It's not about ISK It's about personal integrity This actually goes deeper than you might suppose... But i hope i am wrong and you know what's really at stake *Lazy Bunglers open for bussiness: 90%,+ISK*
Jadek Menaheim Xer Cloud Consortium 305	Posted - 2013.11.11 20:28:00 - [37] - Quote Dust Junky 4Life wrote: I will give you 1 million isk for your secret. I will never tell another soul........... Post bellow please. Off to go buy some more toothpicks to build those modded controllers with that isk? [sig=hex.dec]4d7920313333372048617830727a2078706c6f747a20522058706f7364206259206c766c2035204330646562386b727a[/sig]
Jadu Wen Xer Cloud Consortium 150	Posted - 2013.11.11 20:33:00 - [38] - Quote can't play dust wrote: Awry Barux wrote: ISK is a crutch, get good It's not about ISK It's about personal integrity This actually goes deeper than you might suppose... But i hope i am wrong and you know what's really at stake Worried that we're corrupting the morals of this community? You can play your game and we'll play ours. I just can't help it if the chaos bleeds over into your sandbox. GûÆGûêGûæGûæGûÆGûê GûÆGûêGûÇGûÇGûÇ GûÆGûêGûäGûæGûÆGûê GûÆGûêGûÆGûêGûÆGûê GûÆGûêGûÇGûÇGûÇ GûÆGûêGûÆGûêGûÆGûê GûÆGûêGûäGûÇGûäGûê GûÆGûêGûäGûäGûä GûÆGûêGûæGûæGûÇGûê ? SoonGäó
Jadek Menaheim Xer Cloud Consortium 305	Posted - 2013.11.11 20:37:00 - [39] - Quote can't play dust wrote: Don't dissmis such systems out of hand yet. Even if you see ISK constantly leaking out of wallet this is actually good. Let me explain. By analyzing who contributes most to the corp wallet and takes least (better yet none) you can find out who is the needle in a New Eden haystack. Everybody else is just a haystack. Finding that needles is a best thing that might happen to you in this s**t hole... Just think about it for a moment Good luck EDIT: we need better tools to filter/analyze corp wallet transaction logs. It's utter mess now... I do appreciate what you are getting at. The speed at which transactions go through in our wallet, the farthest you can usually see back is about four hours---may make it difficult to find those noble and generous members. At the same token, those 'upstanding' users may be alts planted to generate those feelings of goodwill in users who take the time to study the transaction history. Think about that if you will. [sig=hex.dec]4d7920313333372048617830727a2078706c6f747a20522058706f7364206259206c766c2035204330646562386b727a[/sig]
Jadu Wen Xer Cloud Consortium 150	Posted - 2013.11.11 20:38:00 - [40] - Quote Jadek Menaheim wrote: At the same token, those 'upstanding' users may be alts planted to generate those feelings of goodwill in users who take the time to study the transaction history. Think about that if you will. GûÆGûêGûæGûæGûÆGûê GûÆGûêGûÇGûÇGûÇ GûÆGûêGûäGûæGûÆGûê GûÆGûêGûÆGûêGûÆGûê GûÆGûêGûÇGûÇGûÇ GûÆGûêGûÆGûêGûÆGûê GûÆGûêGûäGûÇGûäGûê GûÆGûêGûäGûäGûä GûÆGûêGûæGûæGûÇGûê ? SoonGäó

ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 418	Posted - 2013.11.11 21:06:00 - [41] - Quote MySpaceTom wrote: ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals wrote: I joined because I had 50,000,000 ISK that just kept growing and I would NEVER use that much. I'll just have to stick to being a roaming logi to help people out. If you had that much to spare why didn't you simply donate it to people directly in the corp. Jadek does that all the time. This: ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals wrote: I figured that i'd just join up so that others who need it could use whatever else I acquired. I can sit on 50,000,000 ISK pretty much forever at this rate. Only thing that'd make me need more is if CCP drastically ups prices on the very few things I buy. I figured i'd just send all the money I keep getting from matches (I play for the SP, not the ISK) to a corp that could do something useful with it. I thought this was a corp that might've turned into that. From what I saw, people just take the small bits of ISK in the wallet that shows up after a single victory. There's no fun in it if the thing never gets big to begin with. I think it's only going to get worse the bigger it gets. Course, the corp can't fail. It's an experiment apparently. Nothing more and nothing less. I've heard it being played up a bit though. "[adjective] chaos" it's been said. I wouldn't go so far though as I couldn't honestly see any chaos.
Jadu Wen Xer Cloud Consortium 150	Posted - 2013.11.11 21:38:00 - [42] - Quote ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals wrote: MySpaceTom wrote: ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals wrote: I joined because I had 50,000,000 ISK that just kept growing and I would NEVER use that much. I'll just have to stick to being a roaming logi to help people out. If you had that much to spare why didn't you simply donate it to people directly in the corp. Jadek does that all the time. This: ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals wrote: I figured that i'd just join up so that others who need it could use whatever else I acquired. I can sit on 50,000,000 ISK pretty much forever at this rate. Only thing that'd make me need more is if CCP drastically ups prices on the very few things I buy. I figured i'd just send all the money I keep getting from matches (I play for the SP, not the ISK) to a corp that could do something useful with it. I thought this was a corp that might've turned into that. From what I saw, people just take the small bits of ISK in the wallet that shows up after a single victory. There's no fun in it if the thing never gets big to begin with. I think it's only going to get worse the bigger it gets. Course, the corp can't fail. It's an experiment apparently. Nothing more and nothing less. I've heard it being played up a bit though. "[adjective] chaos" it's been said. I wouldn't go so far though as I couldn't honestly see any chaos. I was pretty fresh to dust at the time I created this corp, but I do remember hearing about a small merc corp of 4 highly skilled players that always ran matches together and trusted one another to set a 100% tax rate and open director access. Yes, I did like that idea, and I would suggest finding or forming a corp like this if this is more of the ideal you seek. As for what I started, I wanted to build upon that idea and go several steps further, for better or worse. Sure, what has developed might not be your ideal of fun; however, there are others who have become quite fond of its current state and possibilities. It's just simply a different kind of experience. The experience of watching a wallet build up to a monumental peak is different that the experience and tension of never knowing when a powerball lotto might drop into the corp wallet. If you are interested in a little isk, Jadek discussed with me that ZionShad will be visiting our corp later this week as part of his community tour. In the process, he will be dropping off 10 million isk into the corp wallet at a random time of his choosing. I'm sure Jadek will be pushing the exact times of his visit out here shortly to the forums. You know how he works. GûÆGûêGûæGûæGûÆGûê GûÆGûêGûÇGûÇGûÇ GûÆGûêGûäGûæGûÆGûê GûÆGûêGûÆGûêGûÆGûê GûÆGûêGûÇGûÇGûÇ GûÆGûêGûÆGûêGûÆGûê GûÆGûêGûäGûÇGûäGûê GûÆGûêGûäGûäGûä GûÆGûêGûæGûæGûÇGûê ? SoonGäó
MySpaceTom Xer Cloud Consortium 40	Posted - 2013.11.11 21:48:00 - [43] - Quote This kind of corp really seems to encourage people to buy two PS3 to have two accounts running simultaneously. One playing matches and one watching the wallet.....preferably one of the account's name begins with 'A' or a number so it filters to the top of the member list for easier access. Sony should do an end of console generation sale just for Dust 514, lol! 4920616d204a6164656b204d656e616865696d277320526167696e672042696c652044756374
Jadek Menaheim Xer Cloud Consortium 305	Posted - 2013.11.11 21:49:00 - [44] - Quote MySpaceTom wrote: This kind of corp really seems to encourage people to buy two PS3 to have two accounts running simultaneously. One playing matches and one watching the wallet.....preferably one of the account's name begins with 'A' or a number so it filters to the top of the member list for easier access. Sony should do an end of console generation sale just for Dust 514, lol! You're thinking like a con man now! That's one way to run it. [sig=hex.dec]4d7920313333372048617830727a2078706c6f747a20522058706f7364206259206c766c2035204330646562386b727a[/sig]
can't play dust Lazy Bunglers 13	Posted - 2013.11.11 23:13:00 - [45] - Quote @Jadek, Jadu, i don't criticise or condemn your corp organisation. I've organized mine almost simmilary to yours. I don't really care if someone takes all the ISK. As for people who pretend goodwill it is really a matter of time when they entangle in their own web of lies. Even if somehow they manage to out smart everybody else with their long con it is an experience worth of going through just for educational value. At the end they always show their face: for fame, for lolz, and to just let you know you'r a sucker. It does not matter. All that's matter is that you'll learn something about that character. If somebody is going to engage in such games it just means he/she is a psychopath. It's always good to know it. I am aware that all this you can succesfully pull off with complex web of alts. But think for a moment about this time and attention consuming effort. It's plain ridiculus to organize this just to teach one person a lesson. I will not drown forums in my qq. And it will proove nothing. Just another elaborate meta game in New Eden. As always, it's healthy to take you daily dose of paranoia when doing bussines in New Eden. And remeber you deal with real people hidden behind the masks. But you still learn from the actions of those real people *Lazy Bunglers open for bussiness: 90%,+ISK*
KalOfTheRathi Nec Tributis 863	Posted - 2013.11.12 01:29:00 - [46] - Quote Jadek Menaheim wrote: -- snip scum bag babble -- Who cares? Maybe EVE players. They have set the bar so low that someone like you can be a step sideways.
SANS PEUR america69 20	Posted - 2013.11.12 02:49:00 - [47] - Quote [REQUEST] MOVE TO LOCKER ROOM PLEASE THERE IS NO NEED FOR MY THREAD TO BE IN G.D. ANYMORE.
Jadek Menaheim Xer Cloud Consortium 309	Posted - 2013.11.12 03:06:00 - [48] - Quote can't play dust wrote: @Jadek, Jadu, i don't criticise or condemn your corp organisation. I've organized mine almost simmilary to yours. I don't really care if someone takes all the ISK. As for people who pretend goodwill it is really a matter of time when they entangle in their own web of lies. Even if somehow they manage to out smart everybody else with their long con it is an experience worth of going through just for educational value. At the end they always show their face: for fame, for lolz, and to just let you know you'r a sucker. It does not matter. All that's matter is that you'll learn something about that character. If somebody is going to engage in such games it just means he/she is a psychopath. It's always good to know it. I am aware that all this you can succesfully pull off with complex web of alts. But think for a moment about this time and attention consuming effort. It's plain ridiculus to organize this just to teach one person a lesson. I will not drown forums in my qq. And it will proove nothing. Just another elaborate meta game in New Eden. As always, it's healthy to take you daily dose of paranoia when doing bussines in New Eden. And remeber you deal with real people hidden behind the masks. But you still learn from the actions of those real people Good wisdom, listen to this merc Dusters, it may avoid you a lot of pain and headaches. I still stand by my crooked prescription for the woes of sameness in Dust. Choose my remedy at your own risk. [sig=hex.dec]4d7920313333372048617830727a2078706c6f747a20522058706f7364206259206c766c2035204330646562386b727a[/sig]
Jadek Menaheim Xer Cloud Consortium 311	Posted - 2013.11.12 03:09:00 - [49] - Quote SANS PEUR wrote: [REQUEST] MOVE TO LOCKER ROOM PLEASE THERE IS NO NEED FOR MY THREAD TO BE IN G.D. ANYMORE. But I argue this is still an important emporium of meta gaming discussion in Dust 514; if only for the purpose of introducing new players to the potential for unique meta gaming possibilities not found in other genre FPS titles. [sig=hex.dec]4d7920313333372048617830727a2078706c6f747a20522058706f7364206259206c766c2035204330646562386b727a[/sig]
MySpaceTom Xer Cloud Consortium 43	Posted - 2013.11.12 03:10:00 - [50] - Quote [REQUEST TO STAY THE COURSE] 4920616d204a6164656b204d656e616865696d277320526167696e672042696c652044756374

dustwaffle Xer Cloud Consortium 652	Posted - 2013.11.12 04:56:00 - [51] - Quote can't play dust wrote: All that's matter is that you'll learn something about that character. If somebody is going to engage in such games it just means he/she is a psychopath. Being a bad person ingame = bad person IRL Wat
VAHZZ The dyst0pian Corporation 166	Posted - 2013.11.12 04:59:00 - [52] - Quote I support the cause, ISK means nothing. The merc with a mouth - beware of random bouts of insanity! i should make an Everything Nixon Corp
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 7518	Posted - 2013.11.12 05:00:00 - [53] - Quote VAHZZ wrote: I support the cause, ISK means nothing. Feel free to make a meaningless donation to me whenever you please Fan Fiction \ Broke Dropship Pilot /
VAHZZ The dyst0pian Corporation 166	Posted - 2013.11.12 05:02:00 - [54] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: VAHZZ wrote: I support the cause, ISK means nothing. Feel free to make a meaningless donation to me whenever you please I gave all my ISK to my alt to make a new corp, you're out of luck. BUT YOU WAS MY SECOND CHOICE! The merc with a mouth - beware of random bouts of insanity! i should make an Everything Nixon Corp
Jadek Menaheim Xer Cloud Consortium 314	Posted - 2013.11.12 05:06:00 - [55] - Quote dustwaffle wrote: can't play dust wrote: All that's matter is that you'll learn something about that character. If somebody is going to engage in such games it just means he/she is a psychopath. Being a bad person ingame = bad person IRL Wat So playing Mario as a kid made me the twisted person I am today...sure I mercilessly curb-stombed Goombas and truffle shuffled Koopa Troopas, but I don't see the correlation. [sig=hex.dec]4d7920313333372048617830727a2078706c6f747a20522058706f7364206259206c766c2035204330646562386b727a[/sig]
SANS PEUR america69 20	Posted - 2013.11.12 05:50:00 - [56] - Quote Jadek Menaheim wrote: dustwaffle wrote: can't play dust wrote: All that's matter is that you'll learn something about that character. If somebody is going to engage in such games it just means he/she is a psychopath. Being a bad person ingame = bad person IRL Wat So playing Mario as a kid made me the twisted person I am today...sure I mercilessly curb-stombed Goombas and truffle shuffled Koopa Troopas, but I don't see the correlation. lol .... by posting OP i gave you so much advertisement......
Jadek Menaheim Xer Cloud Consortium 314	Posted - 2013.11.12 06:31:00 - [57] - Quote Yes. It was very good advertisement. Are you sure you're not one of my cronies working this scheme to screw over new players? [sig=hex.dec]4d7920313333372048617830727a2078706c6f747a20522058706f7364206259206c766c2035204330646562386b727a[/sig]
can't play dust Lazy Bunglers 14	Posted - 2013.11.12 07:55:00 - [58] - Quote dustwaffle wrote: can't play dust wrote: All that's matter is that you'll learn something about that character. If somebody is going to engage in such games it just means he/she is a psychopath. Being a bad person ingame = bad person IRL Wat We play any computer (and other) games IRL. We never take a break from RL. If we can allow ourselfves to steal in-game, chances are big we will do the same out-game given the occasion to do so. But we will not do it if we knew we might get catched redhanded. But if we knew nobody will know what we did, we will do it. Best part is we can always change our attitudes. We achieve this by making a conscious choice... The nature of change is also decided by us *Lazy Bunglers open for bussiness: 90%,+ISK*
dustwaffle Xer Cloud Consortium 654	Posted - 2013.11.12 11:43:00 - [59] - Quote can't play dust wrote: dustwaffle wrote: can't play dust wrote: All that's matter is that you'll learn something about that character. If somebody is going to engage in such games it just means he/she is a psychopath. Being a bad person ingame = bad person IRL Wat We play any computer (and other) games IRL. We never take a break from RL. If we can allow ourselfves to steal in-game, chances are big we will do the same out-game given the occasion to do so. But we will not do it if we knew we might get catched redhanded. But if we knew nobody will know what we did, we will do it. Best part is we can always change our attitudes. We achieve this by making a conscious choice... The nature of change is also decided by us IRL, I work as a professional in the financial services industry, adhering to strict ethical standards, although from my experience at work and cue to local country regulations, I know enough to cover my tracks or at least make it really hard to catch me if I wanted to commit a financial crime. But I don't do it, not because of the fear of punishment, but because of my own moral standards. In games, I shoot people, scam them for all their money if I can, backstab, lie, cheat, steal... etc. It's just a game. How you act within the game does not reflect who you are IRL, either subconscious or not. Being able to separate fictional worlds from real life is a sign of maturity and it's the people that blur that line which really need to seek professional help.
can't play dust Lazy Bunglers 15	Posted - 2013.11.12 13:13:00 - [60] - Quote @dustwaffe, OK you don't scam people at work. Why do you then scam them online when you are back at home? Doesn't your moral standards apply to people you meet online outside of your work? What's the difference between people at work and people online in game? Disclaimer: i shoot people in dust, i never insisted i am good person nor perfect. But i try to be... So please bear with me. *Lazy Bunglers open for bussiness: 90%,+ISK*

Jadek Menaheim Xer Cloud Consortium 330	Posted - 2013.11.12 21:23:00 - [61] - Quote Alright Ladies and Gentlemen, stay tuned for tonights development when Xer Cloud Consortium annouces the name of our new partnership filter corp. This corp is designed as a place for members we flag as not meeting a positive growth ratio of production verses theft. Warnings are placed by general community observances of the users actions on the corp wallet. Refresh spam of the wallet is one factor that may place a member in limbo. This means you afg alt [sig=hex.dec]4d7920313333372048617830727a2078706c6f747a20522058706f7364206259206c766c2035204330646562386b727a[/sig]
Jadu Wen Xer Cloud Consortium 159	Posted - 2013.11.12 21:30:00 - [62] - Quote Jadek Menaheim wrote: Alright Ladies and Gentlemen, stay tuned for tonights development when Xer Cloud Consortium annouces the name of our new partnership filter corp. This corp is designed as a place for members we flag as not meeting a positive growth ratio of production verses theft. Warnings are placed by general community observances of the users actions on the corp wallet. Refresh spam of the wallet is one factor that may place a member in limbo. This means you afg alt Looks like this appeases a lot of peoples' current problems with membership in the group of constant theft after matches. It slowly retunes the dynamics of group behavior here for the better. GûÆGûêGûæGûæGûÆGûê GûÆGûêGûÇGûÇGûÇ GûÆGûêGûäGûæGûÆGûê GûÆGûêGûÆGûêGûÆGûê GûÆGûêGûÇGûÇGûÇ GûÆGûêGûÆGûêGûÆGûê GûÆGûêGûäGûÇGûäGûê GûÆGûêGûäGûäGûä GûÆGûêGûæGûæGûÇGûê ? SoonGäó
dustwaffle Xer Cloud Consortium 656	Posted - 2013.11.13 01:37:00 - [63] - Quote can't play dust wrote: @dustwaffe, OK you don't scam people at work. Why do you then scam them online when you are back at home? Doesn't your moral standards apply to people you meet online outside of your work? What's the difference between people at work and people online in game? Disclaimer: i shoot people in dust, i never insisted i am good person nor perfect. But i try to be... So please bear with me. I scam people (in EVE) because (i) I can't be bothered to grind PVE stuff to make ISK, (ii) there are gullible people out there with more money than common sense, and (iii) last but not least, it's a valid way to make ISK endorsed by CCP. It's a means to an end, rather than my sole objective when playing the game. There is a very clear distinction between scamming someone online, and scamming them in a video game where that sort of behaviour is allowed, makes for great stories and generally fits in with the whole role-play thing. And yes, I would view scamming a person online (not over a video game but over RL monies) to be morally reprehensible. However, there is no need to bring RL moral standards into a video game, especially when you have no delusions that is a GAME, therefore you play it to have fun and be entertained. It really is THAT simple. Either you play a game for fun, and know that it's just pixels, or you take everything personally and can't distinct between real life and make believe money. OK, a simple analogy. If you play GTA, do you feel bad when you stick people up to take money off them, run over hookers on the sidewalk, gun your targets down etc? I'm guessing you don't, since it's a video game and you know that you wouldn't do anything of the sort in RL. If this is not the case, seek help asap.
Jadek Menaheim Xer Cloud Consortium 335	Posted - 2013.11.13 04:28:00 - [64] - Quote Jadek Menaheim wrote: Alright Ladies and Gentlemen, stay tuned for tonights development when Xer Cloud Consortium annouces the name of our new partnership filter corp. This corp is designed as a place for members we flag as not meeting a positive growth ratio of production verses theft. Warnings are placed by general community observances of the users actions on the corp wallet. Refresh spam of the wallet is one factor that may place a member in limbo. This means you afg alt Alright. Xer Deadspace is online and ready for applicants. [sig=hex.dec]4d7920313333372048617830727a2078706c6f747a20522058706f7364206259206c766c2035204330646562386b727a[/sig]
Jadek Menaheim Xer Cloud Consortium 335	Posted - 2013.11.13 04:31:00 - [65] - Quote can't play dust wrote: Don't dissmis such systems out of hand yet. Even if you see ISK constantly leaking out of wallet this is actually good. Let me explain. By analyzing who contributes most to the corp wallet and takes least (better yet none) you can find out who is the needle in a New Eden haystack. Everybody else is just a haystack. Finding that needles is a best thing that might happen to you in this s**t hole... Just think about it for a moment Good luck EDIT: we need better tools to filter/analyze corp wallet transaction logs. It's utter mess now... I think this new initiative to split the corps is going to be more to that original impression you had about the 'corp' that Jadu originally promoted. [sig=hex.dec]4d7920313333372048617830727a2078706c6f747a20522058706f7364206259206c766c2035204330646562386b727a[/sig]
can't play dust Lazy Bunglers 16	Posted - 2013.11.13 10:13:00 - [66] - Quote dustwaffle wrote: can't play dust wrote: @dustwaffe, OK you don't scam people at work. Why do you then scam them online when you are back at home? Doesn't your moral standards apply to people you meet online outside of your work? What's the difference between people at work and people online in game? Disclaimer: i shoot people in dust, i never insisted i am good person nor perfect. But i try to be... So please bear with me. I scam people (in EVE) because (i) I can't be bothered to grind PVE stuff to make ISK, (ii) there are gullible people out there with more money than common sense, and (iii) last but not least, it's a valid way to make ISK endorsed by CCP. It's a means to an end, rather than my sole objective when playing the game. There is a very clear distinction between scamming someone online, and scamming them in a video game where that sort of behaviour is allowed, makes for great stories and generally fits in with the whole role-play thing. And yes, I would view scamming a person online (not over a video game but over RL monies) to be morally reprehensible. However, there is no need to bring RL moral standards into a video game, especially when you have no delusions that is a GAME, therefore you play it to have fun and be entertained. It really is THAT simple. Either you play a game for fun, and know that it's just pixels, or you take everything personally and can't distinct between real life and make believe money. OK, a simple analogy. If you play GTA, do you feel bad when you stick people up to take money off them, run over hookers on the sidewalk, gun your targets down etc? I'm guessing you don't, since it's a video game and you know that you wouldn't do anything of the sort in RL. If this is not the case, seek help asap. I don't play GTA. Not tried it and not going to. I don't want to entertain myself with it. Thous i can't buy your analogy. I once played Carmageddon 2. But i stopped doing this moment after i'd almost run over a pedestrian on a crosswalk I was much younger and stupid then. But that moment was very sobering to me... Scamming people in EVE over ISK is really about robbing them of they real cash they have spent to buy subscription time. So you don't steal make believe money. You steal their time cos you "can't be bothered to grind PVE stuff to make ISK". You want to use somebody's else subscription time (paid with out-of-game currency) to pay for your subscription with PLEX. The money your profession is all about is as imaginary as New Eden ISK. It's just bits in a computer. Banks create it out of thin air and moon-high heaps of derivative gambling bets right about to pop (i bet you know it already). The difference with in-game-money is the out-of-game money can directly affect energy input to your out-of-game-body and your surrounding. And it's the only reason why you say they are real. Because you are REALLY afraid of your body disintegration because of no energy input and of what may come next after it. PLEASE DON'T If you wonder why i participate in New Eden interaction, the answer is simple. Moments of interactions like this and discussing really important topics. Like this. Thank you dustwaffe Look i don't want to bother you further with my preaching. And don't want to convert you. I just wanted to explain my pov (it's not yours it's mine and i don't want to force it over you). Feel totally free to discard all what i write as total BS. I respect your right to do so. Fly safe *Lazy Bunglers open for bussiness: 90%,+ISK*
dustwaffle Xer Cloud Consortium 664	Posted - 2013.11.14 01:53:00 - [67] - Quote can't play dust wrote: I don't play GTA. Not tried it and not going to. I don't want to entertain myself with it. Thous i can't buy your analogy. I once played Carmageddon 2. But i stopped doing this moment after i'd almost run over a pedestrian on a crosswalk I was much younger and stupid then. But that moment was very sobering to me... Scamming people in EVE over ISK is really about robbing them of they real cash they have spent to buy subscription time. So you don't steal make believe money. You steal their time cos you "can't be bothered to grind PVE stuff to make ISK". You want to use somebody's else subscription time (paid with out-of-game currency) to pay for your subscription with PLEX. The money your profession is all about is as imaginary as New Eden ISK. It's just bits in a computer. Banks create it out of thin air and moon-high heaps of derivative gambling bets right about to pop (i bet you know it already). The difference with in-game-money is the out-of-game money can directly affect energy input to your out-of-game-body and your surrounding. And it's the only reason why you say they are real. Because you are REALLY afraid of your body disintegration because of no energy input and of what may come next after it. PLEASE DON'T If you wonder why i participate in New Eden interaction, the answer is simple. Moments of interactions like this and discussing really important topics. Like this. Thank you dustwaffe Look i don't want to bother you further with my preaching. And don't want to convert you. I just wanted to explain my pov (it's not yours it's mine and i don't want to force it over you). Feel totally free to discard all what i write as total BS. I respect your right to do so. Fly safe No worries, I appreciate the discussion :) About the scamming ISK in EVE thing. Well, as you say, I want to use somebody's subscription time to pay for my time in EVE, and I say, what's so wrong about that? Better to have peasants work for you than be a peasant yourself, IMO. Also, not sure what this means... Quote: The difference with in-game-money is the out-of-game money can directly affect energy input to your out-of-game-body and your surrounding. And it's the only reason why you say they are real. Because you are REALLY afraid of your body disintegration because of no energy input and of what may come next after it. PLEASE DON'T
Jadek Menaheim Xer Cloud Consortium 375	Posted - 2013.11.14 02:02:00 - [68] - Quote dustwaffle wrote: ]Also, not sure what this means... can't play dust wrote: The difference with in-game-money is the out-of-game money can directly affect energy input to your out-of-game-body and your surrounding. And it's the only reason why you say they are real. Because you are REALLY afraid of your body disintegration because of no energy input and of what may come next after it. PLEASE DON'T As a communication scholar, I almost thought you were getting at something along the lines of Morris Berman and The Basic Fault. He discusses how people experience an inner schism through the confiscation of the self from a somatic, bodily experience to one of 'being and other for others to behold." People build up a love for the image of themselves that takes meaning and affirmation from objects or persons outside of their body vessel, and not from within the person themselves. A person is reminded of their body experience through touch and haptic feedback (maybe why we love to touch the screens of our phones as we browse twitter). Quite fascinating stuff if you want to get into internet sociology studies. [sig=hex.dec]4d7920313333372048617830727a2078706c6f747a20522058706f7364206259206c766c2035204330646562386b727a[/sig]
Jadu Wen Xer Deadspace 176	Posted - 2013.11.14 02:09:00 - [69] - Quote Jadek Menaheim wrote: dustwaffle wrote: ]Also, not sure what this means... can't play dust wrote: The difference with in-game-money is the out-of-game money can directly affect energy input to your out-of-game-body and your surrounding. And it's the only reason why you say they are real. Because you are REALLY afraid of your body disintegration because of no energy input and of what may come next after it. PLEASE DON'T As a communication scholar, I almost thought you were getting at something along the lines of Morris Berman and The Basic Fault. He discusses how people experience an inner schism through the confiscation of the self from a somatic, bodily experience to one of 'being and other for others to behold." People build up a love for the image of themselves that takes meaning and affirmation from objects or persons outside of their body vessel, and not from within the person themselves. A person is reminded of their body experience through touch and haptic feedback (maybe why we love to touch the screens of our phones as we browse twitter, still not the same as human touch). Quite fascinating stuff if you want to get into internet sociology studies. Well it's spawning an industry in the states that's already taken off in Japan. Snuggle with a GÇÿProfessional CuddlerGÇÖ for $60 an Hour GûÆGûêGûæGûæGûÆGûê GûÆGûêGûÇGûÇGûÇ GûÆGûêGûäGûæGûÆGûê GûÆGûêGûÆGûêGûÆGûê GûÆGûêGûÇGûÇGûÇ GûÆGûêGûÆGûêGûÆGûê GûÆGûêGûäGûÇGûäGûê GûÆGûêGûäGûäGûä GûÆGûêGûæGûæGûÇGûê ? SoonGäó
Jadek Menaheim Xer Cloud Consortium 375	Posted - 2013.11.14 02:10:00 - [70] - Quote Well hell, for $60 I'd cuddle and make light conversation with someone. [sig=hex.dec]4d7920313333372048617830727a2078706c6f747a20522058706f7364206259206c766c2035204330646562386b727a[/sig]

dustwaffle Xer Cloud Consortium 665	Posted - 2013.11.14 02:10:00 - [71] - Quote Jadek Menaheim wrote: dustwaffle wrote: ]Also, not sure what this means... can't play dust wrote: The difference with in-game-money is the out-of-game money can directly affect energy input to your out-of-game-body and your surrounding. And it's the only reason why you say they are real. Because you are REALLY afraid of your body disintegration because of no energy input and of what may come next after it. PLEASE DON'T As a communication scholar, I almost thought you were getting at something along the lines of Morris Berman and The Basic Fault. He discusses how people experience an inner schism through the confiscation of the self from a somatic, bodily experience to one of 'being and other for others to behold." People build up a love for the image of themselves that takes meaning and affirmation from objects or persons outside of their body vessel, and not from within the person themselves. A person is reminded of their body experience through touch and haptic feedback (maybe why we love to touch the screens of our phones as we browse twitter, still not the same as human touch). Quite fascinating stuff if you want to get into internet sociology studies. lolwat This is getting deep Damn, and here I was just wanting to shoot some people up I don't need to build up an external image or seek affirmation from others. I'm Samuel L. Jackson.
Jadu Wen Xer Deadspace 176	Posted - 2013.11.14 02:11:00 - [72] - Quote Will Cuddle for Isk...... GûÆGûêGûæGûæGûÆGûê GûÆGûêGûÇGûÇGûÇ GûÆGûêGûäGûæGûÆGûê GûÆGûêGûÆGûêGûÆGûê GûÆGûêGûÇGûÇGûÇ GûÆGûêGûÆGûêGûÆGûê GûÆGûêGûäGûÇGûäGûê GûÆGûêGûäGûäGûä GûÆGûêGûæGûæGûÇGûê ? SoonGäó
dustwaffle Xer Cloud Consortium 665	Posted - 2013.11.14 02:12:00 - [73] - Quote Jadek Menaheim wrote: Well hell, for $60 I'd cuddle and make light conversation with someone. cheap ho
Jadek Menaheim Xer Cloud Consortium 375	Posted - 2013.11.14 02:14:00 - [74] - Quote dustwaffle wrote: I don't need to build up an external image or seek affirmation from others. I'm Samuel L. Jackson. Samuel 'mother fuckin' Jackson! He ain't got time for snakes or psychology mumbo jumbo. [sig=hex.dec]4d7920313333372048617830727a2078706c6f747a20522058706f7364206259206c766c2035204330646562386b727a[/sig]
Jadek Menaheim Xer Cloud Consortium 375	Posted - 2013.11.14 02:16:00 - [75] - Quote dustwaffle wrote: Jadek Menaheim wrote: Well hell, for $60 I'd cuddle and make light conversation with someone. cheap ho They do look cute though. [Meet the Snugglers] [sig=hex.dec]4d7920313333372048617830727a2078706c6f747a20522058706f7364206259206c766c2035204330646562386b727a[/sig]
Jadu Wen Xer Deadspace 176	Posted - 2013.11.14 02:20:00 - [76] - Quote ^ ^ ^ PAYMENT POLICY Payment is due at the beginning of each session. We accept cash, check and money order. Q. What if I become sexually aroused during my session? A. Don't worry, it happens! Although sexual activity is not permitted, arousal is perfectly normal and should not make anyone feel uncomfortable. Q. Do I have to tip? A. Of course you don't have to tip! It's a personal choice and we're delighted to have you either way. GûÆGûêGûæGûæGûÆGûê GûÆGûêGûÇGûÇGûÇ GûÆGûêGûäGûæGûÆGûê GûÆGûêGûÆGûêGûÆGûê GûÆGûêGûÇGûÇGûÇ GûÆGûêGûÆGûêGûÆGûê GûÆGûêGûäGûÇGûäGûê GûÆGûêGûäGûäGûä GûÆGûêGûæGûæGûÇGûê ? SoonGäó
dustwaffle Xer Cloud Consortium 666	Posted - 2013.11.14 02:32:00 - [77] - Quote Single snuggle or double cuddle Hmm... Big spoon, little spoon or teaspoon?
can't play dust Lazy Bunglers 16	Posted - 2013.11.15 00:12:00 - [78] - Quote dustwaffe wrote: (...)Also, not sure what this means... Quote: The difference with in-game-money is the out-of-game money can directly affect energy input to your out-of-game-body and your surrounding. And it's the only reason why you say they are real. Because you are REALLY afraid of your body disintegration because of no energy input and of what may come next after it. PLEASE DON'T Ehem... Our bodies need energy to sustain our awareness. This energy is in the form of food and shelter. Those need energy input to create too. Despite ALL available to us energy (sunshine incoming and accumulated over millenia in the form of fossil/fission fuels) is actually free (in terms of currency) methods of extracting it and delivering it has become entangled with scarcity of currency. This scarcity of currency regulates how much energy we are able to deliver for our awareness to be still with us. Since most of us are afraid of the unknown fate of our awareness after our body dies due to lack of energy we are simultaneusly afraid of having little money. Because of being tricked into believing that money is energy we believe that money is real. It is not and it is not energy. Simple (yet i admit extreme) example: Imagine you have fat bank account and "platinium" cards in your wallet, you are nicely dressed and that's it. Now imagine you'v been driving through the dessert dirt road and your car has just run out of gas. There is nobody around. Your mobile is dead and you have no food nor nothing to drink with you. What's good all that money for now? If you don't find any FREE energy around in the form of food and water quickly your body will stop function. You are most probably begining to be engulfed in fear. Fear of death of your body. Fear of the death of your awareness. Stop. Our awareness can function without our bodies. It's not BS. It's a scientific fact completely untied from religious beliefs: http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2013/04/consciousness-after-death/ BTW, materialism and science are belief systems too. Complete with their dogmas, believers and priesthood It's all a matter of choice of what to believe in... My humble ISK 0.02 *Lazy Bunglers open for bussiness: 90%,+ISK*
Jadek Menaheim Xer Cloud Consortium 381	Posted - 2013.11.15 03:16:00 - [79] - Quote can't play dust wrote: OP please forgive me for this totally off-topic post... The topic is on Jadek and Jadu corp scheme. I am wondering on a corp merge... There is currently only me in Lazy Bunglers and some measly ISK 2 MIL in corp wallet We could use your help over at Xer Cloud Consortium to help root out leechers and motivate members to contribute to PC and to one another. They can be more stingy on their funds in Xer Deadspace. [sig=hex.dec]4d7920313333372048617830727a2078706c6f747a20522058706f7364206259206c766c2035204330646562386b727a[/sig]
dustwaffle Xer Cloud Consortium 673	Posted - 2013.11.15 03:21:00 - [80] - Quote can't play dust wrote: Ehem... Our bodies need energy to sustain our awareness. This energy is in the form of food and shelter. Those need energy input to create too. Despite ALL available to us energy (sunshine incoming and accumulated over millenia in the form of fossil/fission fuels) is actually free (in terms of currency) methods of extracting it and delivering it has become entangled with scarcity of currency. This scarcity of currency regulates how much energy we are able to deliver for our awareness to be still with us. Since most of us are afraid of the unknown fate of our awareness after our body dies due to lack of energy we are simultaneusly afraid of having little money. Because of being tricked into believing that money is energy we believe that money is real. It is not and it is not energy. Simple (yet i admit extreme) example: Imagine you have fat bank account and "platinium" cards in your wallet, you are nicely dressed and that's it. Now imagine you'v been driving through the dessert dirt road and your car has just run out of gas. There is nobody around. Your mobile is dead and you have no food nor nothing to drink with you. What's good all that money for now? If you don't find any FREE energy around in the form of food and water quickly your body will stop function. You are most probably begining to be engulfed in fear. Fear of death of your body. Fear of the death of your awareness. Stop. Our awareness can function without our bodies. It's not BS. It's a scientific fact completely untied from religious beliefs: http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2013/04/consciousness-after-death/ BTW, materialism and science are belief systems too. Complete with their dogmas, believers and priesthood It's all a matter of choice of what to believe in... My humble ISK 0.02 OP please forgive me for this totally off-topic post... The topic is on Jadek and Jadu corp scheme. I am wondering on a corp merge... There is currently only me in Lazy Bunglers and some measly ISK 2 MIL in corp wallet Sorry, you lost me there, what does any of this have to do with equating RL behaviour with ingame behaviour?



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