The charge time for the RR should be 1-2 seconds and the Cal assault bonus should be -5% to charge time.

Essentially how Amarr light weapons have an overheat mechanic, the Caldari weapons need to be consistent with the spool up time. The Amarr make great assaults because their bonus indirectly effects their weapons utility.

So for Caldari

Make the Rail Rifle take .50 seconds before firing

And make all Caldari sniper rifles have a charge time like the charge sniper rifle (Faster and slower for different variants)

The Cal Assault bonus could be like a 10% reduction to charge/spool up time. Any other light weapons of Caldari nature that are introduced should also have the same mechanic for the assault to add to its collection of weapons.

I know there is going to be resistance to this one, but the reason why the Amarr assault is able to fly high is due to the same mechanic implementation, making it a superior fighter to the Amarr Logi (which the other logis don't have), so by this nature the Cal Assault would become superior to the Cal Logi if the Assault is better able to use his weapons better.

The spool up time and % bonus is subject to change, but what are your thoughts on this?

This just turns all the assaults into generic footsoldiers. There's no variety to fittings if the best we can get out of our suits forces us to build them in a certain way.

A bonus should compliment certain weapons/playstyles not apply exclusively to them.

1-2 seconds is way too high. I think 0.4 seconds would be fine. This shows how long 0.4 seconds is.

This just turns all the assaults into generic footsoldiers. There's no variety to fittings if the best we can get out of our suits forces us to build them in a certain way.

A bonus should compliment certain weapons/playstyles not apply exclusively to them.

I am very very against the idea of racial weapons be tied to racil suits. Decreases Suit diversity and turns this game into a rock paper scissor match.

Essentially how Amarr light weapons have an overheat mechanic, the Caldari weapons need to be consistent with the spool up time. The Amarr make great assaults because their bonus indirectly effects their weapons utility.

So for Caldari

Make the Rail Rifle take .50 seconds before firing

And make all Caldari sniper rifles have a charge time like the charge sniper rifle (Faster and slower for different variants)

The Cal Assault bonus could be like a 10% reduction to charge/spool up time. Any other light weapons of Caldari nature that are introduced should also have the same mechanic for the assault to add to its collection of weapons.

I know there is going to be resistance to this one, but the reason why the Amarr assault is able to fly high is due to the same mechanic implementation, making it a superior fighter to the Amarr Logi (which the other logis don't have), so by this nature the Cal Assault would become superior to the Cal Logi if the Assault is better able to use his weapons better.

The spool up time and % bonus is subject to change, but what are your thoughts on this?

You know rails are actually Gallente tech all hybrid tech is, Caldari just use hybrids some times like blasters and rails they are mainly missiles

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Essentially how Amarr light weapons have an overheat mechanic, the Caldari weapons need to be consistent with the spool up time. The Amarr make great assaults because their bonus indirectly effects their weapons utility.

So for Caldari

Make the Rail Rifle take .50 seconds before firing

And make all Caldari sniper rifles have a charge time like the charge sniper rifle (Faster and slower for different variants)

The Cal Assault bonus could be like a 10% reduction to charge/spool up time. Any other light weapons of Caldari nature that are introduced should also have the same mechanic for the assault to add to its collection of weapons.

I know there is going to be resistance to this one, but the reason why the Amarr assault is able to fly high is due to the same mechanic implementation, making it a superior fighter to the Amarr Logi (which the other logis don't have), so by this nature the Cal Assault would become superior to the Cal Logi if the Assault is better able to use his weapons better.

The spool up time and % bonus is subject to change, but what are your thoughts on this?

I wouldn't worry about diversity. You find plenty of bonuses to tracking speed, range and damage to hybrid turrets in EVE, but people still put auto cannons on their ship because it uses less CPU/PG. Seems alright to me that it uses racial weapons along with a racial suit, you can always switch it around, but the suit was built by the same manufacturer as the weapon - of course they will work better together!

Going along with what the previous posters have said I'd have to agree that you wouldn't need to worry about race specific assault suits having race specific weapon bonuses killing diversity.

If someone is going assault spec you can be pretty well assured that they want to use that races weapons.

I've got all racial medium frames up to 3 so I can play around with the different suits for less SP. If I wanted to get the most out of Hybrid rifles I'd go gallente assault, so if we carry that logic to the other suits the assault bonus would have to change.

I'd say CCP should move the Caldari and minmatar assault specs to be a basic frame bonus and add a more rail/kinetic weapon bonus to those suits for assault. Amarr and Gallente suits should get a basic frame bonus too, but their ass. spec bonuses are decent as is.

the charge is .2 seconds. the charge on a small rail gun is .2 seconds.

if you think .2 seconds is too short... think about this, the new minmatar combat rifle has a rof of .05 seconds.

thats 4 rounds fired before you can take you first shot. thats about 80hps of damage.

you think increasing it is a good idead? at .4 second thats 8 rounds and about 160hp of damge before you take your first shot.

does anybody in this thread want to fight with a rail rifle like that? you like those odds?