DUST Search - 3-5 Second Delay for OBs

Rynoceros wrote:

Jaysyn Larrisen wrote:

Rynoceros wrote:

My .02 ISK:
OBs need to be reworked to reflect 6 man squads and more ways to gain WP.

5000 WP.
Every member of the squad gets +10 WP instead of the Squad Leader getting free WPs & Kills for the squad putting in work.

Not sure I'm following you. Every WP gained in the squad, no matter how you got them counts. Full squads that are working together are incentivized by gaining orbitals...sounds like a good thing to me. 2500 works...no compelling reason to change.

Do you mean every squad members gets some WP and kill assists from the OB strike? I do like that idea...pretty smart.

The current standard 2500 WP to call an OB was implemented when we only had 4 man squads. There were no WPs for Equipment Destruction, Repping(?), Scanning, etc.

5000 is more than reasonable. That's less <850 WP average per squad member to call 1 OB in a match. Most full squads should still be able to drop at least 2.

And Yes, every member of the squad should get a +10 WP Assist per Orbital kill, not the squad leader reaping all of the benefits of the work that 5 other people put in.

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Rynoceros Rise Of Old Dudes 1262	Posted - 2013.11.10 22:41:00 - [31] - Quote Jaysyn Larrisen wrote: Rynoceros wrote: My .02 ISK: OBs need to be reworked to reflect 6 man squads and more ways to gain WP. 5000 WP. Every member of the squad gets +10 WP instead of the Squad Leader getting free WPs & Kills for the squad putting in work. Not sure I'm following you. Every WP gained in the squad, no matter how you got them counts. Full squads that are working together are incentivized by gaining orbitals...sounds like a good thing to me. 2500 works...no compelling reason to change. Do you mean every squad members gets some WP and kill assists from the OB strike? I do like that idea...pretty smart. The current standard 2500 WP to call an OB was implemented when we only had 4 man squads. There were no WPs for Equipment Destruction, Repping(?), Scanning, etc. 5000 is more than reasonable. That's less <850 WP average per squad member to call 1 OB in a match. Most full squads should still be able to drop at least 2. And Yes, every member of the squad should get a +10 WP Assist per Orbital kill, not the squad leader reaping all of the benefits of the work that 5 other people put in. Cheeseburgers.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 10089	Posted - 2013.11.10 23:15:00 - [32] - Quote Blah time to poke the devs over this again. Pros for longer delay between broadcast and firing: allows reactive behavior. Cons for longer delay: reactive behavior could nullify the OB (especially with vehicles.) I do believe its a bit too short though right now so a slight bump up would be nice. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier Specialist Current Theme \\= Advanced Laser Rifle =// Unlocked
neurol forever Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic 17	Posted - 2013.11.10 23:17:00 - [33] - Quote OB is OP and warning message? How about announcer "Some one is behind you" or "Sniper is pointing at you"? Sorry for my English.
Knight Soiaire R 0 N 1 N 3199	Posted - 2013.11.10 23:22:00 - [34] - Quote neurol forever wrote: OB is OP and warning message? How about announcer "Some one is behind you" or "Sniper is pointing at you"? Please no. She doesn't shutup already, if she spoke everytime a sniper has a bead on me, my ears would begin to bleed, thats how annoying she is. If an Orbital is shot from Orbit (Or even a Warbarge) do you not think something would be able to pick that up and send a warning to ever merc in the area? Or at least, there is another idea that isn't as "Hand holding", when an OB has been called, the sky flashes (Red for an enemy OB, blue for a friendly), which is then followed by a 2-5 second delay, then the OB hits. Save General John Ripper! Catz Addict
SponkSponkSponk The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 498	Posted - 2013.11.11 00:08:00 - [35] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Is the only way i can Drop Some Fast tanks. So no. They actually need to be faster.and Stronger What you want is not faster orbital strikes. What you want is to target an orbital strike on an actual vehicle target instead of a static area. "Pulvis et umbra sumus. (We are but dust and shadow.)" GÇò Horace, The Odes of Horace
Talos Vagheitan 167	Posted - 2013.11.11 00:10:00 - [36] - Quote Knight Soiaire wrote: OBs are like cheap killstreaks right now, the only way to counter them is to hug a wall, and hope for the best. There needs to be a warning, something like that annoying announcer saying "Get the **** out of there" Either increase their cost, or make a delay, and warning. (A 5000WP Cost) So, you'd like a warning that gives everyone enough time to escape? Or in other words, completely nullify OB's altogether. Also, are you aware that in FW, EVE pilots are now going to be required for OB's? Do you still want nullified despite that? EDIT: And just for the record, for the most part I feel OB's are fine the way they are. In FW an EVE pilot is required so they should be very effective. And in Public Matches, they effectively are a killstreak reward, which is also fine by me. Who cares what some sniper has to say
Jaysyn Larrisen OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 249	Posted - 2013.11.11 01:05:00 - [37] - Quote Rynoceros wrote: Jaysyn Larrisen wrote: Rynoceros wrote: My .02 ISK: OBs need to be reworked to reflect 6 man squads and more ways to gain WP. 5000 WP. Every member of the squad gets +10 WP instead of the Squad Leader getting free WPs & Kills for the squad putting in work. Not sure I'm following you. Every WP gained in the squad, no matter how you got them counts. Full squads that are working together are incentivized by gaining orbitals...sounds like a good thing to me. 2500 works...no compelling reason to change. Do you mean every squad members gets some WP and kill assists from the OB strike? I do like that idea...pretty smart. The current standard 2500 WP to call an OB was implemented when we only had 4 man squads. There were no WPs for Equipment Destruction, Repping(?), Scanning, etc. 5000 is more than reasonable. That's less <850 WP average per squad member to call 1 OB in a match. Most full squads should still be able to drop at least 2. And Yes, every member of the squad should get a +10 WP Assist per Orbital kill, not the squad leader reaping all of the benefits of the work that 5 other people put in. Good points about evolution of the game and WP generation. I could see bringing it to 3000 to 3500 per orbital...maybe. I actually would increase the orbital assist to 15pts per kill, 2pts per equipment.
Gods Architect Pradox One Proficiency V. 922	Posted - 2013.11.11 02:14:00 - [38] - Quote easy solution if its mid game don't travel in a big group I created Heaven and Hell I am God's Architect Dust Illuminati soldier Member of the Godslayer Gang and King of RP
Kallas Hallytyr Skullbreakers 79	Posted - 2013.11.11 02:34:00 - [39] - Quote Orbitals should not be tied to War Points. War Points in general are a fairly bad mechanic that doesn't really have a place, lore-wise. Some on here have suggested secondary objectives that would begin a timer/accumulate orbital strike points and would be something to fight over whilst not being directly tied to win/loss. In that regard, a team being badly beaten on clones/MCC damage could maintain a hold on the orbital relay and bring in much-needed support. If the enemy team switches gears and moves on the relay, that gives them the opportunity to attack the now less defended NULL cannons. It's a better way, in my opinion, than arbitrary point allocation.
Cosgar ParagonX 7623	Posted - 2013.11.11 02:54:00 - [40] - Quote Replace "game" with orbital bombardment and you get what orbitals should be like aesthetically and in terms of fair warning. I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"



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