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Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 2065	Posted - 2013.11.10 15:39:00 - [1] - Quote Like say the Matari assault gets +5% to projectile weapon clip size instead of just sidarm. Think it's going to happen? Should it happen? Sinboto - The True Blood Minja. Forum Warrior level 2 A grunt of STB
Nocturnal Soul Immortal Retribution 1050	Posted - 2013.11.10 15:43:00 - [2] - Quote Nope "The trick to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources..." Albert Einstein
Knight Soiaire R 0 N 1 N 3178	Posted - 2013.11.10 15:53:00 - [3] - Quote An MD with an 8 Round Barrel? Plz no. Save General John Ripper! Catz Addict
Sgt Kirk SyNergy Gaming EoN. 2677	Posted - 2013.11.10 16:00:00 - [4] - Quote Scrub flavored The newer the berry the dumber the juice.
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 2066	Posted - 2013.11.10 16:23:00 - [5] - Quote Knight Soiaire wrote: An MD with an 8 Round Barrel? Plz no. We already have one Sinboto - The True Blood Minja. Forum Warrior level 2 A grunt of STB
Senator Snipe SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 59	Posted - 2013.11.10 16:30:00 - [6] - Quote Sinboto lost his mind
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 1079	Posted - 2013.11.10 16:51:00 - [7] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: Like say the Matari assault gets +5% to projectile weapon clip size instead of just sidarm. Think it's going to happen? Should it happen? It makes sense that the individual racial suits all had a bonus that pertains to their racially favored weapon type. I'd be in favor of the idea. +1 good sir Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives Karin Midular, gone, never forgotten Executing Amarr Trash since Closed Beta
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 2066	Posted - 2013.11.10 17:01:00 - [8] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: Like say the Matari assault gets +5% to projectile weapon clip size instead of just sidarm. Think it's going to happen? Should it happen? I don't like forcing people to use a particular weapon just because they picked a particular suit. It's at least befitting of the dogmatic Amarr that they'd want to be racial purists, but it undermines much of the appeal of this game in the first place. No.
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 2068	Posted - 2013.11.10 17:21:00 - [9] - Quote Chunky Munkey wrote: Sinboto Simmons wrote: Like say the Matari assault gets +5% to projectile weapon clip size instead of just sidarm. Think it's going to happen? Should it happen? I don't like forcing people to use a particular weapon just because they picked a particular suit. It's at least befitting of the dogmatic Amarr that they'd want to be racial purists, but it undermines much of the appeal of this game in the first place. I don't see it as forcing someone, the weapons would still work regardless, just a reward to those that use the weapons whit their suits, like the scrambler rifle we have today you don't HAVE to use an Amarr suit but it gives you bonuses if you do. Sinboto - The True Blood Minja. Forum Warrior level 2 A grunt of STB
Reav Hannari Red Rock Outriders 1778	Posted - 2013.11.10 17:27:00 - [10] - Quote They've said that 1.7 will be the biggest content release yet. If there is a wide enough range of gear then I think having racial bonuses to encourage use of a racially oriented fits is not a bad idea. Although, I do like the flexibility in combining fits across racial lines compared to EVE. AKA: Rees Noturana https://twitter.com/reesnoturana

Cody Sietz Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 1381	Posted - 2013.11.10 17:45:00 - [11] - Quote Knight Soiaire wrote: An MD with an 8 Round Barrel? Plz no. I thought MD counted as a explosive weapon?
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 2069	Posted - 2013.11.10 17:48:00 - [12] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: Knight Soiaire wrote: An MD with an 8 Round Barrel? Plz no. I thought MD counted as a explosive weapon? Indeed but it uses projectile rounds (Nades) Flaylock uses missiles. Sinboto - The True Blood Minja. Forum Warrior level 2 A grunt of STB
Cody Sietz Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 1382	Posted - 2013.11.10 17:56:00 - [13] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: Cody Sietz wrote: Knight Soiaire wrote: An MD with an 8 Round Barrel? Plz no. I thought MD counted as a explosive weapon? Indeed but it uses projectile rounds (Nades) Flaylock uses missiles. Ah, then I will have to side with Soiaire on this one. Sorry, Simmons. My armour can not take any more booms.
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 2074	Posted - 2013.11.10 17:59:00 - [14] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: Sinboto Simmons wrote: Cody Sietz wrote: Knight Soiaire wrote: An MD with an 8 Round Barrel? Plz no. I thought MD counted as a explosive weapon? Indeed but it uses projectile rounds (Nades) Flaylock uses missiles. Ah, then I will have to side with Soiaire on this one. Sorry, Simmons. My armour can not take any more booms. Aw come on it makes sense! Don't be like that T_T Sinboto - The True Blood Minja. Forum Warrior level 2 A grunt of STB
Cody Sietz Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 1382	Posted - 2013.11.10 18:04:00 - [15] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: Cody Sietz wrote: Sinboto Simmons wrote: Cody Sietz wrote: Knight Soiaire wrote: An MD with an 8 Round Barrel? Plz no. I thought MD counted as a explosive weapon? Indeed but it uses projectile rounds (Nades) Flaylock uses missiles. Ah, then I will have to side with Soiaire on this one. Sorry, Simmons. My armour can not take any more booms. Aw come on it makes sense! Don't be like that T_T I can see if it was a bonus to full auto or burst projectile weapons, since way you would get a bonus with the Combat rifle and the SMG. Also that precision rifle once it hits. Then again...that is only 3 weapons and that's only once they get released...are there plans for any more Minnie weapons?
Nocturnal Soul Immortal Retribution 1051	Posted - 2013.11.10 18:46:00 - [16] - Quote I demand more Amarr weapons more specifically an Imperial assault scrambler(SMG) to go with my Lr fit "The trick to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources..." Albert Einstein
Tectonic Fusion 527	Posted - 2013.11.10 18:49:00 - [17] - Quote Knight Soiaire wrote: An MD with an 8 Round Barrel? Plz no. Not as bad as a 75 clip AR Solo Player Squad status: Locked
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 1079	Posted - 2013.11.10 19:10:00 - [18] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: Sinboto Simmons wrote: Cody Sietz wrote: Sinboto Simmons wrote: Cody Sietz wrote: I thought MD counted as a explosive weapon? Indeed but it uses projectile rounds (Nades) Flaylock uses missiles. Ah, then I will have to side with Soiaire on this one. Sorry, Simmons. My armour can not take any more booms. Aw come on it makes sense! Don't be like that T_T I can see if it was a bonus to full auto or burst projectile weapons, since way you would get a bonus with the Combat rifle and the SMG. Also that precision rifle once it hits. Then again...that is only 3 weapons and that's only once they get released...are there plans for any more Minnie weapons? I would hope we'd get a Minmatar Trench gun. Probably best that it was pump action but full auto would be nice..... The AA12 of 20k years in the future Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives Karin Midular, gone, never forgotten Executing Amarr Trash since Closed Beta
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 2098	Posted - 2013.11.11 01:59:00 - [19] - Quote Thoughts are good for the soul!!! Sinboto - The True Blood Minja. Forum Warrior level 2 A grunt of STB
Jaysyn Larrisen OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 249	Posted - 2013.11.11 02:14:00 - [20] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: [quote=Sinboto Simmons][quote=Cody Sietz][quote=Sinboto Simmons][quote=Cody Sietz] Then again...that is only 3 weapons and that's only once they get released...are there plans for any more Minnie weapons? Hmm. Duct Tape launcher? Rust grenade?

Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 2319	Posted - 2013.11.24 16:22:00 - [21] - Quote Just thought I'd bring this back up. Sinboto - The True Blood Minja. Forum Warrior level 2 A grunt of STB
Joel II X AHPA 209	Posted - 2013.11.24 16:40:00 - [22] - Quote Chunky Munkey wrote: Sinboto Simmons wrote: Like say the Matari assault gets +5% to projectile weapon clip size instead of just sidarm. Think it's going to happen? Should it happen? I don't like forcing people to use a particular weapon just because they picked a particular suit. It's at least befitting of the dogmatic Amarr that they'd want to be racial purists, but it undermines much of the appeal of this game in the first place. That's not the point. You can still use every weapon out there with skills, but they work better with their race. You're not FORCED to use the better option. I was using the Laser Rifle on my Gallente Scout and hada few decent skills even though I didn't have any points whatsoever in them (I was using the 50 free 'Burnstalk' Laser Rifles I got ages ago).
Logi Bro Greatness Achieved Through Training EoN. 2363	Posted - 2013.11.24 16:46:00 - [23] - Quote Make it 3% and I'd be more inclined to agree. I suppose Caldari like range, so 3% range to rail weaponry. Gallente like spraying plasma everywhere, so 3% less dispersion would help them out. Amarr like slaves, so they can have a 3% increase to slave pen size. Then bam, everyone is happy. Been Logistics since before it was cool.
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 2289	Posted - 2013.11.24 16:53:00 - [24] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: Chunky Munkey wrote: Sinboto Simmons wrote: Like say the Matari assault gets +5% to projectile weapon clip size instead of just sidarm. Think it's going to happen? Should it happen? I don't like forcing people to use a particular weapon just because they picked a particular suit. It's at least befitting of the dogmatic Amarr that they'd want to be racial purists, but it undermines much of the appeal of this game in the first place. I don't see it as forcing someone, the weapons would still work regardless, just a reward to those that use the weapons whit their suits, like the scrambler rifle we have today you don't HAVE to use an Amarr suit but it gives you bonuses if you do. Why reward us for being generic footsoldiers? How about suit bonuses that benefit suits? Why should people lose out on a bonus just because they didn't want to put a long-range rifle on a suit that works best at close range? Right now the Amarr Assault bonus works because it is unique, plus, if you want an Amarr suit that's combat viable, you can still pick the logi. It's a great balance. Making all the suits the same is a terrible idea. No.
The Robot Devil Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 1269	Posted - 2013.11.24 16:54:00 - [25] - Quote Chunky Munkey wrote: Sinboto Simmons wrote: Like say the Matari assault gets +5% to projectile weapon clip size instead of just sidarm. Think it's going to happen? Should it happen? I don't like forcing people to use a particular weapon just because they picked a particular suit. It's at least befitting of the dogmatic Amarr that they'd want to be racial purists, but it undermines much of the appeal of this game in the first place. Not forcing them to use anything, only giving perks to those whom do. Perks and bonuses should come with the suit and levels in the skill should modify the bonus. It is the best method for allowing expanding roles and suit types within a size. Dr. Gonzo: I hate to say this, but this place is getting to me. I think I'm getting the Fear.
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 2289	Posted - 2013.11.24 17:02:00 - [26] - Quote The Robot Devil wrote: Chunky Munkey wrote: Sinboto Simmons wrote: Like say the Matari assault gets +5% to projectile weapon clip size instead of just sidarm. Think it's going to happen? Should it happen? I don't like forcing people to use a particular weapon just because they picked a particular suit. It's at least befitting of the dogmatic Amarr that they'd want to be racial purists, but it undermines much of the appeal of this game in the first place. Not forcing them to use anything, only giving perks to those whom do. Perks and bonuses should come with the suit and levels in the skill should modify the bonus. It is the best method for allowing expanding roles and suit types within a size. It doesn't play to roles though. Right now some suits have roles because their unique bonuses compliment certain playstyles. The Minmatar, for example, encourages the use of non-conventional light weapons like Swarms and PlaCs, by backing them up with a more effective sidearm. No.
KEROSIINI-TERO The Rainbow Effect 856	Posted - 2013.11.24 17:23:00 - [27] - Quote Chunky Munkey wrote: Sinboto Simmons wrote: Like say the Matari assault gets +5% to projectile weapon clip size instead of just sidarm. Think it's going to happen? Should it happen? I don't like forcing people to use a particular weapon just because they picked a particular suit. It's at least befitting of the dogmatic Amarr that they'd want to be racial purists, but it undermines much of the appeal of this game in the first place. ^ This. It would be a sad moment for Dust if suits and weapons would go hand in hand with each other. Imagine "LOL did u just see that dude with AR in his minmatar suit OMG ROFL!!!1!!!1!" Point is it might go where it is utter stupidity to even consider fitting anything but one certain weapon (or narrow type of weapons) Feeling the scanner is too simple and off balance? The fix:
The Robot Devil Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 1269	Posted - 2013.11.24 17:25:00 - [28] - Quote Chunky Munkey wrote: Sinboto Simmons wrote: Chunky Munkey wrote: Sinboto Simmons wrote: Like say the Matari assault gets +5% to projectile weapon clip size instead of just sidarm. Think it's going to happen? Should it happen? I don't like forcing people to use a particular weapon just because they picked a particular suit. It's at least befitting of the dogmatic Amarr that they'd want to be racial purists, but it undermines much of the appeal of this game in the first place. I don't see it as forcing someone, the weapons would still work regardless, just a reward to those that use the weapons whit their suits, like the scrambler rifle we have today you don't HAVE to use an Amarr suit but it gives you bonuses if you do. Why reward us for being generic footsoldiers? How about suit bonuses that benefit suits? Why should people lose out on a bonus just because they didn't want to put a long-range rifle on a suit that works best at close range? Right now the Amarr Assault bonus works because it is unique, plus, if you want an Amarr suit that's combat viable, you can still pick the logi. It's a great balance. Making all the suits the same is a terrible idea. It is not different than how it is done in EVE. If had to say two things that CCP did completely perfect it would be the economy and the way perks are handed down through the ships. Being an Amarr purist is no less viable than any other way of playing. You have to use your bonus that the ship grants you or it is a waste of a hull. That's why people don't fly logi ships to fight in, they fly logi ships to do logi stuff in because the bonuses are there. Gal support frigate Navitas Traits: Gallente Frigate skill bonus per level: 10% bonus to Remote Armor Repair System repair amount 10% reduction in Remote Armor Repair System capacitor use Role Bonus: 500% bonus to range of remote armor repair systems Gal combat frigate Incursus Traits: Gallente Frigate skill bonus per level: 7.5% bonus to Armor Repairer effectiveness 5% bonus to Small Hybrid Turret damage Gal combat frigate Atron Traits: Gallente Frigate skill bonus per level: 10% bonus to Small Hybrid Turret falloff 5% bonus to Small Hybrid Turret damage Role Bonus: 80% reduction in Propulsion Jamming systems activation cost 52 frigates counting only the four racial t1 and t2 hulls. This is how it should/will be for the scout class and the mediums should have the same, a few less for the heavy suits but yeah that many. Light, Medium and Heavy all should have the same battlefield roles, for the most part, but do them differently. I am not saying that the three sizes should all have logi, ewar, short and long range and the like but they should be close to having them. I am not saying take anything from them. Nothing radical like only let scouts carry sidearms and shot guns or anything like that. I am saying that the light class of suit should have a logi role in each race. The scout size would be great if they had put bonuses on suits instead of the way they are. Each race could have 6-10 scout suits. That is about 30 suits just in the light frame size. The only way we will able to move forward is to change the way per level bonuses are applied and where they come from. The suit perk system and the economy are my only two let downs in this game. I can handle the bs op/up and the lack of selection in "core" items or any technical issues but it pi$$es me off about the economy and perks. Those are my two favorite things because that is what drives EVE. ISK and math. Dr. Gonzo: I hate to say this, but this place is getting to me. I think I'm getting the Fear.
KEROSIINI-TERO The Rainbow Effect 856	Posted - 2013.11.24 17:32:00 - [29] - Quote The Robot Devil wrote: . . Eve stuff . . Yeah but at the same time most interesting hulls are where the bonuses themselves make it a no-brainer to choose a certain weapon system. Example, Myrmidon was a great example of weapon unbonused hull which made fitting it very interesting. A variation of it was Dominix which DID have hybrid bonus, but because of second weapon system bonus many ppl actually fit domis with neuts. Point is, it's interesting if once you see a hull you are not 95% sure what to expect from it. If 95% of people (besides full idiots) use the same fit it's dull you'll surely agree. Feeling the scanner is too simple and off balance? The fix:
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 2295	Posted - 2013.11.24 18:46:00 - [30] - Quote The Robot Devil wrote: . . Eve stuff . . It's in Eve, therefore it should be in Dust? That's it? Come on man, this is an opportunity to create and/or maintain some real diversity in this game. There has to be a better reason to restrict our choices in the game than conformity to existing trends. No.

CharCharOdell 1665	Posted - 2013.11.24 19:00:00 - [31] - Quote MN: assault gets +5%/lvl to projectile weapon clip size GA gets -5%/lvl PG/cpu for plasma tech CA gets +5%/lvl range to rail tech AM gets -5%/lvl heat build up for laser tech All assaults get +3%/lvl effectiveness of armor and shielextenders/plates Gùñ-é-º+¼+ò+¦GÖÑ+ú+ú+¡ GÖÑ'Ðe+ü+üGùÑ Gùú -ä>-üð+++Ç++§<-¡<-¡ Gùó Speaker of the Mangrove / King of QQ / Co-Founder of the Learning Coalition
The Robot Devil Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 1270	Posted - 2013.11.24 19:41:00 - [32] - Quote Chunky Munkey wrote: The Robot Devil wrote: . . Eve stuff . . It's in Eve, therefore it should be in Dust? That's it? Come on man, this is an opportunity to create and/or maintain some real diversity in this game. There has to be a better reason to restrict our choices in the game than conformity to existing trends. How does it restrict choices? If anything it broadens them. As of right now you can only get the perk that skill gives you when you wear the suit. 2 assault bonus and 2 logi. That is restricting diversity. How do we do anything different if there are only these two options? Dr. Gonzo: I hate to say this, but this place is getting to me. I think I'm getting the Fear.
Argent Mordred DUST University Ivy League 24	Posted - 2013.11.25 02:46:00 - [33] - Quote The Robot Devil wrote: Chunky Munkey wrote: The Robot Devil wrote: . . Eve stuff . . It's in Eve, therefore it should be in Dust? That's it? Come on man, this is an opportunity to create and/or maintain some real diversity in this game. There has to be a better reason to restrict our choices in the game than conformity to existing trends. How does it restrict choices? If anything it broadens them. As of right now you can only get the perk that skill gives you when you wear the suit. 2 assault bonus and 2 logi. That is restricting diversity. How do we do anything different if there are only these two options? Because why would anyone run a different type of weapon then what their suit receives bonus's for? I am a caldari assault, if I get a bonus to rails, I should run rails. If I don't, then I am wasting a perfectly good bonus. And not only am I wasting the bonus, any other weapon I can use is not worth using, as I will never be as good with it as the suit with the bonus for that type of weapons. Why should I fight the way another faction does, when users of that faction's gear will always be better at? That would be setting me up to lose.
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 4272	Posted - 2013.11.25 02:50:00 - [34] - Quote Argent Mordred wrote: The Robot Devil wrote: Chunky Munkey wrote: The Robot Devil wrote: . . Eve stuff . . It's in Eve, therefore it should be in Dust? That's it? Come on man, this is an opportunity to create and/or maintain some real diversity in this game. There has to be a better reason to restrict our choices in the game than conformity to existing trends. How does it restrict choices? If anything it broadens them. As of right now you can only get the perk that skill gives you when you wear the suit. 2 assault bonus and 2 logi. That is restricting diversity. How do we do anything different if there are only these two options? Because why would anyone run a different type of weapon then what their suit receives bonus's for? I am a caldari assault, if I get a bonus to rails, I should run rails. If I don't, then I am wasting a perfectly good bonus. And not only am I wasting the bonus, any other weapon I can use is not worth using, as I will never be as good with it as the suit with the bonus for that type of weapons. Why should I fight the way another faction does, when users of that faction's gear will always be better at? That would be setting me up to lose. You must consider this from a racial design stand point. An Empire manufacturing these suits like ship hulls would design it to best benefit its own technological inclinations. Now I agree, suits need bonuses that reflect the racial attributes of that class, in the case of assaults weapon benefits for those racial weapons. Its not just a matter of "its in EVE" its a matter of "it makes sense within our universe". Using what you have is just another part of New Eden. Ever wonder why you don't see Amarr Battleships with Auto Cannon or Missile? "All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 1156	Posted - 2013.11.25 02:54:00 - [35] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Argent Mordred wrote: The Robot Devil wrote: Chunky Munkey wrote: The Robot Devil wrote: . . Eve stuff . . It's in Eve, therefore it should be in Dust? That's it? Come on man, this is an opportunity to create and/or maintain some real diversity in this game. There has to be a better reason to restrict our choices in the game than conformity to existing trends. How does it restrict choices? If anything it broadens them. As of right now you can only get the perk that skill gives you when you wear the suit. 2 assault bonus and 2 logi. That is restricting diversity. How do we do anything different if there are only these two options? Because why would anyone run a different type of weapon then what their suit receives bonus's for? I am a caldari assault, if I get a bonus to rails, I should run rails. If I don't, then I am wasting a perfectly good bonus. And not only am I wasting the bonus, any other weapon I can use is not worth using, as I will never be as good with it as the suit with the bonus for that type of weapons. Why should I fight the way another faction does, when users of that faction's gear will always be better at? That would be setting me up to lose. You must consider this from a racial design stand point. An Empire manufacturing these suits like ship hulls would design it to best benefit its own technological inclinations. Now I agree, suits need bonuses that reflect the racial attributes of that class, in the case of assaults weapon benefits for those racial weapons. Its not just a matter of "its in EVE" its a matter of "it makes sense within our universe". Using what you have is just another part of New Eden. Ever wonder why you don't see Amarr Battleships with Auto Cannon or Missile? I seem to remember hearing about people fitting Autocannons to non-Minmatar ships since they are capless. Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives Karin Midular, gone, never forgotten Executing Amarr Trash since Closed Beta
Lynn Beck Granite Mercenary Division Top Men. 262	Posted - 2013.11.25 02:54:00 - [36] - Quote Tectonic Fusion wrote: Knight Soiaire wrote: An MD with an 8 Round Barrel? Plz no. Not as bad as a 75 clip AR Oh but they already have better! 90 clip biatch. -Newly proclaimed Lazor riffle specialist- "You said yourself fantastically 'congratulations you are all alone.'"
Zekain K Expert Intervention Caldari State 572	Posted - 2013.11.25 02:54:00 - [37] - Quote What about bonuses that only affect the racial rifles for each assault suit. Caldari rail rifle gets a 2% charge up time reduction/ or a reload speed reduction Gelente Rifles gains +2% range per level Minmitar rifle gains a +2% to mag size Amarr rifle Gains a +2 heat reduction per level *CALDARI MASTER RACE*
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 4272	Posted - 2013.11.25 02:57:00 - [38] - Quote Alaika Arbosa wrote: I seem to remember hearing about people fitting Autocannons to non-Minmatar ships since they are capless. Depends, though you would be better suited to use them on Gallente ships, and even then .....blasters are just better on the Megathron.... I also suppose Khanid ships are missile amarr boats, and the Guristas Drone Caldari boats. "All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 2310	Posted - 2013.11.25 03:17:00 - [39] - Quote The Robot Devil wrote: Chunky Munkey wrote: The Robot Devil wrote: . . Eve stuff . . It's in Eve, therefore it should be in Dust? That's it? Come on man, this is an opportunity to create and/or maintain some real diversity in this game. There has to be a better reason to restrict our choices in the game than conformity to existing trends. How does it restrict choices? If anything it broadens them. As of right now you can only get the perk that skill gives you when you wear the suit. 2 assault bonus and 2 logi. That is restricting diversity. How do we do anything different if there are only these two options? This idea that factions should stick to their own gear serves no gameplay purpose. It restricts choices because rather than having all weapons, and finding a way to make a bonus work for your weapon, you are instead told that unless you adhere to some lore-based principle, you don't get any bonus. In defending these racial bonuses, you only need answer one question: Why is it important to the game that a Gallente suit should use a Gallente weapon? No.
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 2311	Posted - 2013.11.25 03:19:00 - [40] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Argent Mordred wrote: The Robot Devil wrote: Chunky Munkey wrote: The Robot Devil wrote: . . Eve stuff . . It's in Eve, therefore it should be in Dust? That's it? Come on man, this is an opportunity to create and/or maintain some real diversity in this game. There has to be a better reason to restrict our choices in the game than conformity to existing trends. How does it restrict choices? If anything it broadens them. As of right now you can only get the perk that skill gives you when you wear the suit. 2 assault bonus and 2 logi. That is restricting diversity. How do we do anything different if there are only these two options? Because why would anyone run a different type of weapon then what their suit receives bonus's for? I am a caldari assault, if I get a bonus to rails, I should run rails. If I don't, then I am wasting a perfectly good bonus. And not only am I wasting the bonus, any other weapon I can use is not worth using, as I will never be as good with it as the suit with the bonus for that type of weapons. Why should I fight the way another faction does, when users of that faction's gear will always be better at? That would be setting me up to lose. You must consider this from a racial design stand point. An Empire manufacturing these suits like ship hulls would design it to best benefit its own technological inclinations. Now I agree, suits need bonuses that reflect the racial attributes of that class, in the case of assaults weapon benefits for those racial weapons. Its not just a matter of "its in EVE" its a matter of "it makes sense within our universe". Using what you have is just another part of New Eden. Ever wonder why you don't see Amarr Battleships with Auto Cannon or Missile? I don't know if it's what you intended, but you just made quite a good case against these racially themed bonuses. No.

True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 4275	Posted - 2013.11.25 03:21:00 - [41] - Quote Chunky Munkey wrote: I don't know if it's what you intended, but you just made quite a good case against these racially themed bonuses. I don't see a reason why you shouldn't have racially theme bonuses, no one is being punished, only rewarded to specific fits, you can still do as you please. Just look at those crazy twats who auto cannon up Ventures....and win in pvp fights. "All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
Luna Angelo We Who Walk Alone 149	Posted - 2013.11.25 03:24:00 - [42] - Quote Instead of a suit bonus and massive, why not make it into a Racial bonus you get when you create your character and make it 1-3% once instead of stacking? http://tinypic.com/r/raz3uo/5 http://i44.tinypic.com/25jbk7t.gif Contact WaTcHoUt1219 ZARTA for logo 500K ISK. more to
The Robot Devil Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 1273	Posted - 2013.11.25 07:55:00 - [43] - Quote Chunky Munkey wrote: The Robot Devil wrote: Chunky Munkey wrote: The Robot Devil wrote: . . Eve stuff . . It's in Eve, therefore it should be in Dust? That's it? Come on man, this is an opportunity to create and/or maintain some real diversity in this game. There has to be a better reason to restrict our choices in the game than conformity to existing trends. How does it restrict choices? If anything it broadens them. As of right now you can only get the perk that skill gives you when you wear the suit. 2 assault bonus and 2 logi. That is restricting diversity. How do we do anything different if there are only these two options? This idea that factions should stick to their own gear serves no gameplay purpose. It restricts choices because rather than having all weapons, and finding a way to make a bonus work for your weapon, you are instead told that unless you adhere to some lore-based principle, you don't get any bonus. In defending these racial bonuses, you only need answer one question: Why is it important to the game that a Gallente suit should use a Gallente weapon? Same reason Amarr assault gets a bonus to laser weapons. Running an Amarr assault with anything but a scram or laser is wasting the bonus for the suit. Dr. Gonzo: I hate to say this, but this place is getting to me. I think I'm getting the Fear.
Fizzer94 L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 950	Posted - 2013.11.25 08:10:00 - [44] - Quote Knight Soiaire wrote: An MD with an 8 Round Barrel? Plz no. The MD is an explosive based weapon, it wouldn't be affected by this bonus. [+ªa¦Ç+¦++-ö-Å94] The Plasma Cannon is not underpowered. REMOVE ALL BPOs
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 2342	Posted - 2013.11.25 14:46:00 - [45] - Quote Thoughts are good for you. Sinboto - The True Blood Minja. Forum Warrior level 2 A grunt of STB


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