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Vegetation Monster The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 55	Posted - 2013.11.10 14:42:00 - [1] - Quote They are OP because the can put on complex dmg without sacrificing any hp mods and brick their ass above 700 armor. Why go over 700 armor because armor repair hives make it so you dont even need a repper and the gallante logistics is just the worse, d complex/enhanced dmg mods with 4 triage hives and 5 complex/enhanced armor plates and a duvolle. B Double O T Y
Patrick57 GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 1344	Posted - 2013.11.10 14:43:00 - [2] - Quote This has been brought up so many times.... Suppose you were an idiot, and suppose you were a member of Congress; but I repeat myself. -Mark Twain :D
Disturbingly Bored The Strontium Asylum 1094	Posted - 2013.11.10 14:47:00 - [3] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: This has been brought up so many times.... It's cool. Starting a thread like this is almost a right of passage on this forum. His logic will be duly smacked down, he shall be branded a forum noob, and he shall see the error his ways. ¶Gêƒ__ Gò« Gû¿GûêGûêGûêGòáGëíGëíGëíGû¬ « GÇó GÇó GÇó GÇó GÇó GÇó GÇó GåÆFAT GATGåÉ pÇûGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæpÇùForum Warrior LV 1 (NEXT: 000/1000XP) ¯Gò¦pÇôpÇù
Sgt Kirk SyNergy Gaming EoN. 2673	Posted - 2013.11.10 14:47:00 - [4] - Quote Someone has been killed by me and my kind way too many times. Don't worry, it's not us that are OP, maybe one day you too will realize going around throwing grenades can only get you so far Darkstar profligate. The newer the berry the dumber the juice.
Vegetation Monster The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 55	Posted - 2013.11.10 14:50:00 - [5] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: Someone has been killed by me and my kind way too many times. Don't worry, it's not us that are OP, maybe one day you too will realize going around throwing grenades can only get you so far Darkstar profligate. i refuse to use the OP grenades! i refuse to use medium suits and i refuse to use AR and i refuse to use grenades!!! here, have an ishukone FG to the face. Just to rub it in, i might even give you a milita FG to the face. B Double O T Y
Lorhak Gannarsein 570	Posted - 2013.11.10 14:51:00 - [6] - Quote Ever think maybe it's not the suit that's OP? Too busy clicking cookies to play DUST...
Sgt Kirk SyNergy Gaming EoN. 2673	Posted - 2013.11.10 14:55:00 - [7] - Quote Vegetation Monster wrote: Sgt Kirk wrote: Someone has been killed by me and my kind way too many times. Don't worry, it's not us that are OP, maybe one day you too will realize going around throwing grenades can only get you so far Darkstar profligate. i refuse to use the OP grenades! i refuse to use medium suits and i refuse to use AR and i refuse to use grenades!!! here, have an ishukone FG to the face. Just to rub it in, i might even give you a milita FG to the face. That's even worse darkstar profligate. The newer the berry the dumber the juice.
Medic 1879 Forsaken Immortals Top Men. 1208	Posted - 2013.11.10 15:00:00 - [8] - Quote Ok you can take the high slots from my Gallente suit if you take the low slots from Caldari. Armour tanking was useless compared to shields for so long and now that its balanced everyone cry's that its op. If you see an enemy sat in a few hives getting constant reps you can guarantee he is not going to move so either A flank or B toss a flux grenade and watch all his hives go bye bye. HTFU, adapt or die etc.... TEST signature please help me think of a better one.
Melchiah ARANeAE The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 257	Posted - 2013.11.10 15:16:00 - [9] - Quote The grass on the other side is always OP... 'Insert witty signature here'
J'Hiera Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 37	Posted - 2013.11.10 15:21:00 - [10] - Quote Vegetation Monster wrote: They are OP because the can put on complex dmg without sacrificing any hp mods and brick their ass above 700 armor. Why go over 700 armor because armor repair hives make it so you dont even need a repper and the gallante logistics is just the worse, d complex/enhanced dmg mods with 4 triage hives and 5 complex/enhanced armor plates and a duvolle. I seeyour 700hp suit and negate it with TTK.

RKKR The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 435	Posted - 2013.11.10 15:30:00 - [11] - Quote What suddenly changed in 1.6 that makes this setup so great? Healing hives? Still the same. Reppers are finally getting usefull, **** those hives now. Logi gallente suit? Still the same. Assault rifle? Militia AR is like a knife versus butter against everything. You guys are just too late to the party.
Cody Sietz Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 1380	Posted - 2013.11.10 15:31:00 - [12] - Quote Do you mean the Gallente Logi?
Cosgar ParagonX 7576	Posted - 2013.11.10 15:46:00 - [13] - Quote Remember when it was the Caldari that were OP? Looks like shield/armor imbalance shifted the other way. I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"
Marston VC SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 1176	Posted - 2013.11.10 15:48:00 - [14] - Quote Vegetation Monster wrote: They are OP because the can put on complex dmg without sacrificing any hp mods and brick their ass above 700 armor. Why go over 700 armor because armor repair hives make it so you dont even need a repper and the gallante logistics is just the worse, d complex/enhanced dmg mods with 4 triage hives and 5 complex/enhanced armor plates and a duvolle. Yeah..... you know whats good at countering that??? Any sort of grenade or explosive..... Marston VC, STB director
Severance Pay Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic 956	Posted - 2013.11.10 15:49:00 - [15] - Quote Vegetation Monster wrote: They are OP because the can put on complex dmg without sacrificing any hp mods and brick their ass above 700 armor. Why go over 700 armor because armor repair hives make it so you dont even need a repper and the gallante logistics is just the worse, d complex/enhanced dmg mods with 4 triage hives and 5 complex/enhanced armor plates and a duvolle. Ever play rock paper scissors? Probably not because you would lose. They use lots of armor, so if you see lots of them use your grenade fit. Or mass driver or flaylock. Should be easy to hit directly if they are stacking 30% in movement reduction from stacking all that armor. We few, we happy few, we band of brothers; For he to-day that sheds his blood with me Shall be my brother
Vegetation Monster The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 56	Posted - 2013.11.10 15:59:00 - [16] - Quote Severance Pay wrote: Vegetation Monster wrote: They are OP because the can put on complex dmg without sacrificing any hp mods and brick their ass above 700 armor. Why go over 700 armor because armor repair hives make it so you dont even need a repper and the gallante logistics is just the worse, d complex/enhanced dmg mods with 4 triage hives and 5 complex/enhanced armor plates and a duvolle. Ever play rock paper scissors? Probably not because you would lose. They use lots of armor, so if you see lots of them use your grenade fit. Or mass driver or flaylock. Should be easy to hit directly if they are stacking 30% in movement reduction from stacking all that armor. what are you talking about, they take me down faster than i can put down two massdriver rounds... B Double O T Y
Aisha Ctarl PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 1681	Posted - 2013.11.10 16:04:00 - [17] - Quote Meanwhile, Amarr suits are the oddballs with their hybrid tanking or their armor tank with damage modifiers. Go forth, conquer in my Name, and reclaim that which I have given." - The Scriptures, Book of Reclaiming
RKKR The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 436	Posted - 2013.11.10 16:08:00 - [18] - Quote Vegetation Monster wrote: what are you talking about, they take me down faster than i can put down two massdriver rounds... So does having triage hives and more armor give you more damage?
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 826	Posted - 2013.11.10 16:11:00 - [19] - Quote Aisha Ctarl wrote: Meanwhile, Amarr suits are the oddballs with their hybrid tanking or their armor tank with damage modifiers. Fool please, nothing hybrid tanks like my minlogi suits. There there Mr. Scout and Ms. Heavy, don't cry You'll still be useful in my eyes
Meeko Fent Xer Cloud Consortium 1483	Posted - 2013.11.10 16:20:00 - [20] - Quote Shield Extenders>Damage Mods We did the math a long time ago. For the State! For Caldari FW join Caldari Hierarchy

Bethhy Ancient Exiles 297	Posted - 2013.11.10 16:28:00 - [21] - Quote Vegetation Monster wrote: They are OP because the can put on complex dmg without sacrificing any hp mods and brick their ass above 700 armor. Why go over 700 armor because armor repair hives make it so you dont even need a repper and the gallante logistics is just the worse, d complex/enhanced dmg mods with 4 triage hives and 5 complex/enhanced armor plates and a duvolle. This has always been the case.... Armor just had bigger penalties and damage mod's didn't negate the fall off on ranges like they do now. Gallente suit's are fine...
Vegetation Monster The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 56	Posted - 2013.11.10 16:34:00 - [22] - Quote RKKR wrote: Vegetation Monster wrote: what are you talking about, they take me down faster than i can put down two massdriver rounds... So does having triage hives and more armor give you more damage? no but armor is on the low slot which is perfect because dmg is on the high... B Double O T Y
Xocoyol Zaraoul Superior Genetics 1416	Posted - 2013.11.10 16:42:00 - [23] - Quote This is hilarious, before the armor patching the Caldari's were OP... Everything is OP, nerf everything... Nerf the forums. Closed Beta Vet Reading the forums detracts from overall enjoyment of the game
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 2065	Posted - 2013.11.10 16:44:00 - [24] - Quote Vegetation Monster wrote: They are OP because the can put on complex dmg without sacrificing any hp mods and brick their ass above 700 armor. Why go over 700 armor because armor repair hives make it so you dont even need a repper and the gallante logistics is just the worse, d complex/enhanced dmg mods with 4 triage hives and 5 complex/enhanced armor plates and a duvolle. So you either have to give up your armour, or equipment slots to survive, and you consider this OP vs the completely user-friendly Caldari setups? Gallente suits are OP in the same way picking manual transmission on Gran Turismo is OP. No.
Severance Pay Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic 956	Posted - 2013.11.10 16:47:00 - [25] - Quote Vegetation Monster wrote: Severance Pay wrote: Vegetation Monster wrote: They are OP because the can put on complex dmg without sacrificing any hp mods and brick their ass above 700 armor. Why go over 700 armor because armor repair hives make it so you dont even need a repper and the gallante logistics is just the worse, d complex/enhanced dmg mods with 4 triage hives and 5 complex/enhanced armor plates and a duvolle. Ever play rock paper scissors? Probably not because you would lose. They use lots of armor, so if you see lots of them use your grenade fit. Or mass driver or flaylock. Should be easy to hit directly if they are stacking 30% in movement reduction from stacking all that armor. what are you talking about, they take me down faster than i can put down two massdriver rounds... With all the movement speed reduction you should be able to dodge gunfire easily. Are you charging right at them or are you strafing at all? We few, we happy few, we band of brothers; For he to-day that sheds his blood with me Shall be my brother
RKKR The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 436	Posted - 2013.11.10 16:48:00 - [26] - Quote Vegetation Monster wrote: RKKR wrote: Vegetation Monster wrote: what are you talking about, they take me down faster than i can put down two massdriver rounds... So does having triage hives and more armor give you more damage? no but armor is on the low slot which is perfect because dmg is on the high... ...and most other modules are on the low slots, so armor suits are not OP unless they give up their hp VS shield suits? Just accept the fact that you're angry you get killed and that your mass driver isn't the all-to-be-weapon. We could however argue that the weapon that kills you over and over might have something to do with it, but before that you have to see the situation as it is and not how you think it should be so you can get easy mass driver spam kills.
lrian Locust DUST University Ivy League 282	Posted - 2013.11.10 16:51:00 - [27] - Quote Meeko Fent wrote: Shield Extenders>Damage Mods Unless you're a sniper, of course.
843 Epidemic 410	Posted - 2013.11.10 17:08:00 - [28] - Quote But as Gallente we DO have to sacrifice armour for: PG Expansion CPU Red bottles Green bottles Profile dampeners Shield regulators Hacking modules All these incredibly core things we either have to sacrifice or sacrifice our armour for. Plus a core locus grenade can one shot any gallente. HTFU. 843-BANE Director // Ranking Officer // BurgezzE.T.F Contact me here
Cass Caul 276	Posted - 2013.11.10 17:10:00 - [29] - Quote Whistles innocently Why no, My Gallante Scout with 700HP is not OP. It's not like I can't be detected on a prototype active scanner and pop up in the middle of a group and slay them all. That, I assure, you has never happened. This weekend, I totally didn't get over a thousand kills with less than a hundred deaths. It's not like I still have more stamina and a higher sprint speed than those shield tankers after the movement penalties too +Éß¦ëddGêÇ -çou -Äll+É-çoGö¦
Meeko Fent Xer Cloud Consortium 1484	Posted - 2013.11.10 17:17:00 - [30] - Quote Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote: This is hilarious, before the armor patching the Caldari's were OP... Everything is OP, nerf everything... Nerf the forums. I second this. For the State! For Caldari FW join Caldari Hierarchy

Heimdallr69 Imperfect Bastards 1234	Posted - 2013.11.10 17:29:00 - [31] - Quote Wish I could have 700 shields and 2-3 dmg mods! I'm everyone's type
Cody Sietz Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 1380	Posted - 2013.11.10 17:31:00 - [32] - Quote Cass Caul wrote: Whistles innocently Why no, My Gallante Scout with 700HP is not OP. It's not like I can't be detected on a prototype active scanner and pop up in the middle of a group and slay them all. That, I assure, you has never happened. This weekend, I totally didn't get over a thousand kills with less than a hundred deaths. It's not like I still have more stamina and a higher sprint speed than those shield tankers after the movement penalties too Your going to get my non armour tank Gallente scout nerfed...aren't you?
Llast 326 An Arkhos 399	Posted - 2013.11.10 17:35:00 - [33] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: Cass Caul wrote: Whistles innocently Why no, My Gallante Scout with 700HP is not OP. It's not like I can't be detected on a prototype active scanner and pop up in the middle of a group and slay them all. That, I assure, you has never happened. This weekend, I totally didn't get over a thousand kills with less than a hundred deaths. It's not like I still have more stamina and a higher sprint speed than those shield tankers after the movement penalties too Your going to get my non armour tank Gallente scout nerfed...aren't you? Mine too I am that Some Margin of Error
Aria Gomes Death by Disassociation Zero-Day 110	Posted - 2013.11.10 17:49:00 - [34] - Quote Glad I'm Minmatar. We will never be OPed. Like ever. We're too squishy I guess.
Heimdallr69 Imperfect Bastards 1234	Posted - 2013.11.10 18:13:00 - [35] - Quote 843 Epidemic wrote: But as Gallente we DO have to sacrifice armour for: PG Expansion CPU Red bottles Green bottles Profile dampeners Shield regulators Hacking modules All these incredibly core things we either have to sacrifice or sacrifice our armour for. Plus a core locus grenade can one shot any gallente. HTFU. Did you really say that...a core locus nade will one shot anyone I'm everyone's type
calvin b Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 878	Posted - 2013.11.10 18:18:00 - [36] - Quote Why oh why do I try. I was a heavy first back in Beta, do to lack of racial suits and new weapons I moved to logi. Cal Logi to be exact and then they nerf them. So I move to Gall Assault and now you are trying to nerf them. I have over 25 Million SP and I am tired of working hard to get to proto for some JACK A** to want to pull the nerf hammer. I was all these before the nerf hammer fell and if the Gall assault gets a nerf, I am done. There will be no use to skill into anything because scrubs will scream nerf and all that hard work will be wasted. I was going to skill into scouts but they are just as bad or worse than any suit out there, so were do I go? I go to another game and leave this one behind and let the scrubs destroy what little is left. CCP needs to stop catering to these scrubs and let the game evolve. Do not eat the yellow snow
Johnny Guilt Algintal Core Gallente Federation 352	Posted - 2013.11.10 18:21:00 - [37] - Quote It isnt that armor changed it's just everything related to armor has changed,armor isn't OP ,the only thing it is now is visible since: 1)reptools can actual rep armor suits fast enough to be worth a damn,so no need for rep mods IF your supported and 2) Most commonly used light weapons as of now are anti shields(AR and SCR).
Vell0cet Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 531	Posted - 2013.11.10 18:35:00 - [38] - Quote Johnny Guilt wrote: It isnt that armor changed it's just everything related to armor has changed,armor isn't OP ,the only thing it is now is visible since: 1)reptools can actual rep armor suits fast enough to be worth a damn,so no need for rep mods IF your supported and 2) Most commonly used light weapons as of now are anti shields(AR and SCR). When the combat rifle comes out, I think this will help balance things tremendously. It should make fast work of armor tankers. I'm hoping it creates more diversity (also the fix to TTK will favor the more mobile suits). Gallente are a little OP now, but don't need a nerf since the upcoming tweaks to gameplay should help correct these issues "organically." Quick/Dirty Test Range Idea
Heimdallr69 Imperfect Bastards 1234	Posted - 2013.11.10 18:48:00 - [39] - Quote calvin b wrote: Why oh why do I try. I was a heavy first back in Beta, do to lack of racial suits and new weapons I moved to logi. Cal Logi to be exact and then they nerf them. So I move to Gall Assault and now you are trying to nerf them. I have over 25 Million SP and I am tired of working hard to get to proto for some JACK A** to want to pull the nerf hammer. I was all these before the nerf hammer fell and if the Gall assault gets a nerf, I am done. There will be no use to skill into anything because scrubs will scream nerf and all that hard work will be wasted. I was going to skill into scouts but they are just as bad or worse than any suit out there, so were do I go? I go to another game and leave this one behind and let the scrubs destroy what little is left. CCP needs to stop catering to these scrubs and let the game evolve. I don't want a nerf but explain to me what's special about cal assault? With gal you can armour tank and still have dmg mods...my shields don't go 100+ for each one yeah your movement penalty amounts to nothing now I cant have armour if I want a side arm k-2 nanos and a m1...yeah I could go none of those have 400 shields then armour tank aswell but I don't see myself being very effective that way I'm everyone's type
Tectonic Fusion 527	Posted - 2013.11.10 19:03:00 - [40] - Quote Heimdallr69 wrote: calvin b wrote: Why oh why do I try. I was a heavy first back in Beta, do to lack of racial suits and new weapons I moved to logi. Cal Logi to be exact and then they nerf them. So I move to Gall Assault and now you are trying to nerf them. I have over 25 Million SP and I am tired of working hard to get to proto for some JACK A to want to pull the nerf hammer. I was all these before the nerf hammer fell and if the Gall assault gets a nerf, I am done. There will be no use to skill into anything because scrubs will scream nerf and all that hard work will be wasted. I was going to skill into scouts but they are just as bad or worse than any suit out there, so were do I go? I go to another game and leave this one behind and let the scrubs destroy what little is left. CCP needs to stop catering to these scrubs and let the game evolve. I don't want a nerf but explain to me what's special about cal assault? With gal you can armour tank and still have dmg mods...my shields don't go 100+ for each one yeah your movement penalty amounts to nothing now I cant have armour if I want a side arm k-2 nanos and a m1...yeah I could go none of those have 400 shields then armour tank aswell but I don't see myself being very effective that way I have like or almost 600 shields and 200-500 armor on my cal assault... Solo Player Squad status: Locked**

Meeko Fent Xer Cloud Consortium 1487	Posted - 2013.11.10 19:06:00 - [41] - Quote lrian Locust wrote: Meeko Fent wrote: Shield Extenders>Damage Mods Unless you're a sniper, of course. That's where the minies have a edge For the State! For Caldari FW join Caldari Hierarchy
Heimdallr69 Imperfect Bastards 1234	Posted - 2013.11.10 19:09:00 - [42] - Quote Tectonic Fusion wrote: Heimdallr69 wrote: calvin b wrote: Why oh why do I try. I was a heavy first back in Beta, do to lack of racial suits and new weapons I moved to logi. Cal Logi to be exact and then they nerf them. So I move to Gall Assault and now you are trying to nerf them. I have over 25 Million SP and I am tired of working hard to get to proto for some JACK A to want to pull the nerf hammer. I was all these before the nerf hammer fell and if the Gall assault gets a nerf, I am done. There will be no use to skill into anything because scrubs will scream nerf and all that hard work will be wasted. I was going to skill into scouts but they are just as bad or worse than any suit out there, so were do I go? I go to another game and leave this one behind and let the scrubs destroy what little is left. CCP needs to stop catering to these scrubs and let the game evolve. I don't want a nerf but explain to me what's special about cal assault? With gal you can armour tank and still have dmg mods...my shields don't go 100+ for each one yeah your movement penalty amounts to nothing now I cant have armour if I want a side arm k-2 nanos and a m1...yeah I could go none of those have 400 shields then armour tank aswell but I don't see myself being very effective that way I have like or almost 600 shields and 200-500 armor on my cal assault... So no dmg mods..that's what my fkn point was, I'm assuming you have no sidearm no m1 **** nanos? Or is taking the extra shield extenders what make the difference? I'm everyone's type
Heimdallr69 Imperfect Bastards 1234	Posted - 2013.11.10 19:28:00 - [43] - Quote I just tested this 561 shield 423 armour no nades no siderarm no nanos I have cpu and pg maxed I'm everyone's type
843 Epidemic 411	Posted - 2013.11.10 20:02:00 - [44] - Quote Heimdallr69 wrote: 843 Epidemic wrote: But as Gallente we DO have to sacrifice armour for: PG Expansion CPU Red bottles Green bottles Profile dampeners Shield regulators Hacking modules All these incredibly core things we either have to sacrifice or sacrifice our armour for. Plus a core locus grenade can one shot any gallente. HTFU. Did you really say that...a core locus nade will one shot anyone Yes, so? Did I say any different? Point being Gallente is not so OP it can't be easily neutralised. calm down. 843-BANE Director // Ranking Officer // BurgezzE.T.F Contact me here
Heimdallr69 Imperfect Bastards 1234	Posted - 2013.11.10 20:04:00 - [45] - Quote 843 Epidemic wrote: Heimdallr69 wrote: 843 Epidemic wrote: But as Gallente we DO have to sacrifice armour for: PG Expansion CPU Red bottles Green bottles Profile dampeners Shield regulators Hacking modules All these incredibly core things we either have to sacrifice or sacrifice our armour for. Plus a core locus grenade can one shot any gallente. HTFU. Did you really say that...a core locus nade will one shot anyone Yes, so? Did I say any different? Point being Gallente is not so OP it can't be easily neutralised. calm down. I am calm lmao..your point is dumb though I'm everyone's type
843 Epidemic 411	Posted - 2013.11.10 20:15:00 - [46] - Quote Heimdallr69 wrote: 843 Epidemic wrote: Heimdallr69 wrote: 843 Epidemic wrote: But as Gallente we DO have to sacrifice armour for: PG Expansion CPU Red bottles Green bottles Profile dampeners Shield regulators Hacking modules All these incredibly core things we either have to sacrifice or sacrifice our armour for. Plus a core locus grenade can one shot any gallente. HTFU. Did you really say that...a core locus nade will one shot anyone Yes, so? Did I say any different? Point being Gallente is not so OP it can't be easily neutralised. calm down. I am calm lmao..your point is dumb though Your face is dumb. 843-BANE Director // Ranking Officer // BurgezzE.T.F Contact me here
Disturbingly Bored The Strontium Asylum 1103	Posted - 2013.11.10 20:40:00 - [47] - Quote 843 Epidemic wrote: Your face is dumb. You can see through his helmet? HAX! ¶Gêƒ__ Gò« Gû¿GûêGûêGûêGòáGëíGëíGëíGû¬ « GÇó GÇó GÇó GÇó GÇó GÇó GÇó GåÆFAT GATGåÉ pÇûGûôGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæpÇùForum Warrior LV 1 (NEXT: 100/1000XP) ¯Gò¦pÇôpÇù
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 831	Posted - 2013.11.10 20:41:00 - [48] - Quote Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote: This is hilarious, before the armor patching the Caldari's were OP... Everything is OP, nerf everything... Nerf the forums. But the forums are OP There there Mr. Scout and Ms. Heavy, don't cry You'll still be useful in my eyes
Zahle Undt Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 437	Posted - 2013.11.10 20:43:00 - [49] - Quote Yep the Gallente assault is OP. If you want to be good at Dust I suggest you skill into Gallente assault today. This message is brou gh to you by your friendly Minmatar allies and our assault SMGs
21yrOld Knight Pradox One Proficiency V. 272	Posted - 2013.11.10 20:43:00 - [50] - Quote Vegetation Monster wrote: Sgt Kirk wrote: Someone has been killed by me and my kind way too many times. Don't worry, it's not us that are OP, maybe one day you too will realize going around throwing grenades can only get you so far Darkstar profligate. i refuse to use the OP grenades! i refuse to use medium suits and i refuse to use AR and i refuse to use grenades!!! here, have an ishukone FG to the face. Just to rub it in, i might even give you a milita FG to the face. OHhhh so you do suck at this game. I don't fight for the Amarr. I fight *with* them.

VAHZZ The dyst0pian Corporation 105	Posted - 2013.11.10 21:31:00 - [51] - Quote Scouts...that's all i have to say In this war, a danger there is, of losing who we are. l *Seeker of knowledge and truth.*
Rei Shepard Spectre II 868	Posted - 2013.11.10 21:55:00 - [52] - Quote Vegetation Monster wrote: They are OP because the can put on complex dmg without sacrificing any hp mods and brick their ass above 700 armor. Why go over 700 armor because armor repair hives make it so you dont even need a repper and the gallante logistics is just the worse, d complex/enhanced dmg mods with 4 triage hives and 5 complex/enhanced armor plates and a duvolle. And then watch it waddle accross the battlefield, no offense but what you are sugesting, i am pretty sure wont fit on any suit...(i run amarr assault and they still drop like cakes and i use SCR. Complex armor plate x5 = 60PG Advanced K17 R hives x4 = 48PG Duvolle = 13PG Complex Damage Mods x3 = 27PG Grenade Core = 6PG Thats a total of 154 PG, sure it gets a reduction here and there, i am pretty sure it wont fit, also its CPU use would run dry aswell. Winner of the EU Squad Cup "Go Go Power Rangers!" "Accuracy"
Vegetation Monster The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 59	Posted - 2013.11.10 23:48:00 - [53] - Quote Severance Pay wrote: Vegetation Monster wrote: Severance Pay wrote: Vegetation Monster wrote: They are OP because the can put on complex dmg without sacrificing any hp mods and brick their ass above 700 armor. Why go over 700 armor because armor repair hives make it so you dont even need a repper and the gallante logistics is just the worse, d complex/enhanced dmg mods with 4 triage hives and 5 complex/enhanced armor plates and a duvolle. Ever play rock paper scissors? Probably not because you would lose. They use lots of armor, so if you see lots of them use your grenade fit. Or mass driver or flaylock. Should be easy to hit directly if they are stacking 30% in movement reduction from stacking all that armor. what are you talking about, they take me down faster than i can put down two massdriver rounds... With all the movement speed reduction you should be able to dodge gunfire easily. Are you charging right at them or are you strafing at all? jumping around like a bunny... B Double O T Y
Vegetation Monster The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 59	Posted - 2013.11.10 23:49:00 - [54] - Quote Rei Shepard wrote: Vegetation Monster wrote: They are OP because the can put on complex dmg without sacrificing any hp mods and brick their ass above 700 armor. Why go over 700 armor because armor repair hives make it so you dont even need a repper and the gallante logistics is just the worse, d complex/enhanced dmg mods with 4 triage hives and 5 complex/enhanced armor plates and a duvolle. And then watch it waddle accross the battlefield, no offense but what you are sugesting, i am pretty sure wont fit on any suit...(i run amarr assault and they still drop like cakes and i use SCR. Complex armor plate x5 = 60PG Advanced K17 R hives x4 = 48PG Duvolle = 13PG Complex Damage Mods x3 = 27PG Grenade Core = 6PG Thats a total of 154 PG, sure it gets a reduction here and there, i am pretty sure it wont fit, also its CPU use would run dry aswell. complex/enhanced B Double O T Y
Rynoceros Rise Of Old Dudes 1262	Posted - 2013.11.10 23:57:00 - [55] - Quote Gallente were the whipping boys of this game until about a month ago. Now, they can contend and they're OP? I suggest that anyone that has a problem with this digest a satchel full of male reproductive organs. Cheeseburgers.
THUNDERGROOVE ZionTCD Public Disorder. 1236	Posted - 2013.11.11 04:56:00 - [56] - Quote Meeko Fent wrote: Shield Extenders>Damage Mods We did the math a long time ago. Yeah, maybe back when half of all AR rounds failed to be detected as a valid hit. ZionTCD Director PRO Amarr Sentinel \| ADV Amarr Logi \| ADV Minmatar Scout What is a signature?
THUNDERGROOVE ZionTCD Public Disorder. 1236	Posted - 2013.11.11 04:59:00 - [57] - Quote Rei Shepard wrote: Vegetation Monster wrote: They are OP because the can put on complex dmg without sacrificing any hp mods and brick their ass above 700 armor. Why go over 700 armor because armor repair hives make it so you dont even need a repper and the gallante logistics is just the worse, d complex/enhanced dmg mods with 4 triage hives and 5 complex/enhanced armor plates and a duvolle. And then watch it waddle accross the battlefield, no offense but what you are sugesting, i am pretty sure wont fit on any suit...(i run amarr assault and they still drop like cakes and i use SCR. Complex armor plate x5 = 60PG Advanced K17 R hives x4 = 48PG Duvolle = 13PG Complex Damage Mods x3 = 27PG Grenade Core = 6PG Thats a total of 154 PG, sure it gets a reduction here and there, i am pretty sure it wont fit, also its CPU use would run dry aswell. No one would run 4 K17/D's only can place two for a max of 40. Wyrikomi triage. ZionTCD Director PRO Amarr Sentinel \| ADV Amarr Logi \| ADV Minmatar Scout What is a signature?
Mikey Ducati Xer Cloud Consortium 5	Posted - 2013.11.11 04:59:00 - [58] - Quote So I chose...wisely? Yay for me
Tectonic Fusion 535	Posted - 2013.11.11 05:16:00 - [59] - Quote Heimdallr69 wrote: Tectonic Fusion wrote: Heimdallr69 wrote: calvin b wrote: Why oh why do I try. I was a heavy first back in Beta, do to lack of racial suits and new weapons I moved to logi. Cal Logi to be exact and then they nerf them. So I move to Gall Assault and now you are trying to nerf them. I have over 25 Million SP and I am tired of working hard to get to proto for some JACK A to want to pull the nerf hammer. I was all these before the nerf hammer fell and if the Gall assault gets a nerf, I am done. There will be no use to skill into anything because scrubs will scream nerf and all that hard work will be wasted. I was going to skill into scouts but they are just as bad or worse than any suit out there, so were do I go? I go to another game and leave this one behind and let the scrubs destroy what little is left. CCP needs to stop catering to these scrubs and let the game evolve. I don't want a nerf but explain to me what's special about cal assault? With gal you can armour tank and still have dmg mods...my shields don't go 100+ for each one yeah your movement penalty amounts to nothing now I cant have armour if I want a side arm k-2 nanos and a m1...yeah I could go none of those have 400 shields then armour tank aswell but I don't see myself being very effective that way I have like or almost 600 shields and 200-500 armor on my cal assault... So no dmg mods..that's what my fkn point was, I'm assuming you have no sidearm no m1 ** nanos? Or is taking the extra shield extenders what make the difference? I have a toxin SMG if that helps. Basic Locus cuz who needs the m1 if you have a Duvolle/GEK? Prof 4 on AR so IDC about damage mods. Damage mods insta kill everything, but It's better to tank, because you can actually survive when you kill a ton of people and get away. Solo Player Squad status: Locked**
Zatara Rought Imperfects 1639	Posted - 2013.11.11 05:31:00 - [60] - Quote Meeko Fent wrote: Shield Extenders>Damage Mods We did the math a long time ago. in practice: Damage mods > Shield extenders. because you don't plan for 1v1's. you plan for 1v5's. That's Masternader to you scrub. Skype me @ Zatara.Rought CCP's Motto: "SoonGäó"

Zatara Rought Imperfects 1639	Posted - 2013.11.11 05:35:00 - [61] - Quote THUNDERGROOVE wrote: No one would run 4 K17/D's only can place two for a max of 40. Wyrikomi triage. That's obvious. He used the advanced because everyone would think of your exact logic, and then realize triage and allotek actually cost more pg, enhancing his point. lol trying to do any strafing at all on a compact. That's Masternader to you scrub. Skype me @ Zatara.Rought CCP's Motto: "SoonGäó"
Zatara Rought Imperfects 1639	Posted - 2013.11.11 05:41:00 - [62] - Quote Heimdallr69 wrote: 843 Epidemic wrote: But as Gallente we DO have to sacrifice armour for: PG Expansion CPU Red bottles Green bottles Profile dampeners Shield regulators Hacking modules All these incredibly core things we either have to sacrifice or sacrifice our armour for. Plus a core locus grenade can one shot any gallente. HTFU. Did you really say that...a core locus nade will one shot anyone Untrue. If it was I'd beat kalente a lot more cause my nades truly would be OP and not just op. He survives my core unless I get a headshot with it. That's Masternader to you scrub. Skype me @ Zatara.Rought CCP's Motto: "SoonGäó"
Zatara Rought Imperfects 1639	Posted - 2013.11.11 05:52:00 - [63] - Quote I specced out of Callogi with the respec because I knew it was OP. Gallente sucked balls forever because you had max 330 shields and you couldn't get more than 225 armor (the base) without sacrificing a ludicrous amount of move speed (and inherently strafe speed). Then they released ferroscale and reactive and the reactive sucked (and everyone proved they were worthless because a repper fitting beat them overall everytime) but the ferroscale mitigated the armor plates movement penalty. So slap 2-3 ferroscale on and a regular plate on the other low(s) and you could move relatively well again Then they reduced the movement penalties for regular plates and increased the values on the other plates and suddenly I see all these threads. Personally I think the gallente logi is a little op. I'm not sure how I'd nerf it, but I do think nerfing the rep rate to all logi's and forcing them to put a repper on a low just like most other suits would help. Furthermore I do support logi's being required to fill all low slots (even if they just end up putting on 4 compacts or 4 injectors). That's Masternader to you scrub. Skype me @ Zatara.Rought CCP's Motto: "SoonGäó"
Doc DDD TeamPlayers 98	Posted - 2013.11.11 21:10:00 - [64] - Quote Nerf gal logi cpu like cal logi
Zatara Rought Imperfects 1645	Posted - 2013.11.12 03:04:00 - [65] - Quote Doc DDD wrote: Nerf gal logi cpu like cal logi wouldn't do much of anything. Would you like to see fitting differences before and after I use a basic cpu upgrade and then still fit the same tank, damage mods, weapons, and equips? That's Masternader to you scrub. Skype me @ Zatara.Rought CCP's Motto: "SoonGäó"
DJINN Marauder Paladin Survey Force Amarr Empire 2827	Posted - 2013.11.12 03:08:00 - [66] - Quote Zatara Rought wrote: THUNDERGROOVE wrote: No one would run 4 K17/D's only can place two for a max of 40. Wyrikomi triage. That's obvious. He used the advanced because everyone would think of your exact logic, and then realize triage and allotek actually cost more pg, enhancing his point. lol trying to do any strafing at all on a compact. Don't need to strafe... That's for nubs :P GôÉGô¥GôÿGô£Gôö > GôÉGô¢Gô¢ Gÿà¿When will dust get better?Gÿà Forum Warrior LV. 2
Doc DDD TeamPlayers 99	Posted - 2013.11.12 05:25:00 - [67] - Quote Zatara Rought wrote: Doc DDD wrote: Nerf gal logi cpu like cal logi wouldn't do much of anything. Would you like to see fitting differences before and after I use a basic cpu upgrade and then still fit the same tank, damage mods, weapons, and equips? Would be a start, if having a cpu chip becomes a necessity to run any useful equipment ( possibly paired with the changing of the equipment bonus to something armor related ) then you only slightly nerf the suit without making it useless. The gal logi is far superior to gal assault. A cpu chip necessity would slow the suit down and reduce total hit points. Try making a fit with say 100 less cpu and 15 less pg ( if your equipment bonus was changed ). Im sure you can figure out the exact math, but that would be similar to the cal logi nerf. Next qqing would be the new fotm min logi needing a nerf, likely just cpu. Then suits would be more balanced and ccp can focus on weapon balance or new suits.
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1219	Posted - 2013.11.12 05:58:00 - [68] - Quote Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: Ever think maybe it's not the suit that's OP? Been saying that about tanks, but you think infantry would consider it, noooo.............. Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me, such is the motto of the anti vehicle infantry.
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1219	Posted - 2013.11.12 06:01:00 - [69] - Quote THUNDERGROOVE wrote: Rei Shepard wrote: Vegetation Monster wrote: They are OP because the can put on complex dmg without sacrificing any hp mods and brick their ass above 700 armor. Why go over 700 armor because armor repair hives make it so you dont even need a repper and the gallante logistics is just the worse, d complex/enhanced dmg mods with 4 triage hives and 5 complex/enhanced armor plates and a duvolle. And then watch it waddle accross the battlefield, no offense but what you are sugesting, i am pretty sure wont fit on any suit...(i run amarr assault and they still drop like cakes and i use SCR. Complex armor plate x5 = 60PG Advanced K17 R hives x4 = 48PG Duvolle = 13PG Complex Damage Mods x3 = 27PG Grenade Core = 6PG Thats a total of 154 PG, sure it gets a reduction here and there, i am pretty sure it wont fit, also its CPU use would run dry aswell. No one would run 4 K17/D's only can place two for a max of 40. Wyrikomi triage. Two Wiyrkomi triage, two Allotek, two K17/D and a compact nanohive. If I had more infantry stuff skilled up, I'd say come at me bro. Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me, such is the motto of the anti vehicle infantry.
Laurent Cazaderon What The French 2108	Posted - 2013.11.12 09:32:00 - [70] - Quote meh.... OP is not the right word here... And gallente assault are tough but not invincible. They are exactly what they should be i my opinion. Only thing that is wrong comes gall logis. They're overkill due to having so many slots and a native repair rate on the armor. Pretty much similar to the cal logi issue. Except gall logi had to wait ferroscale and reactive plates to actually become more powefull than their assault equivalent. and obviously i respecd out of gall logis toward assault winmater before that happends This Char i only use on the forum. To contact me : "Cazaderon" in game and on Skype. Et vive la France !

Zatara Rought Imperfects 1651	Posted - 2013.11.12 09:38:00 - [71] - Quote Laurent Cazaderon wrote: meh.... OP is not the right word here... And gallente assault are tough but not invincible. They are exactly what they should be i my opinion. Only thing that is wrong comes gall logis. They're overkill due to having so many slots and a native repair rate on the armor. Pretty much similar to the cal logi issue. Except gall logi had to wait ferroscale and reactive plates to actually become more powefull than their assault equivalent. and obviously i respecd out of gall logis toward assault winmater before that happends Remove the native rep rate and add ccp's previously mentioned new bonuses that will increase stuff like nanohive range or rep rate and then the 25% reduction and native rep rate that combined make the gallente logi better than it's assault counterpart will be gone. Gallente assaults are super UP because there's not a fit in hell you can get with the gallente assault that'll give you over 750+ ehp that the gallente logi can't make and then put proto equips on top of it. That's Masternader to you scrub. Skype me @ Zatara.Rought CCP's Motto: "SoonGäó"
Jack McReady DUST University Ivy League 801	Posted - 2013.11.12 09:44:00 - [72] - Quote my cooked grenades disagrees.


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