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Zatara Rought
Imperfects
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Posted - 2013.11.11 05:35:00 -
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THUNDERGROOVE wrote:
No one would run 4 K17/D's only can place two for a max of 40. Wyrikomi triage.
That's obvious. He used the advanced because everyone would think of your exact logic, and then realize triage and allotek actually cost more pg, enhancing his point. lol trying to do any strafing at all on a compact. 
That's Masternader to you scrub.
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Zatara Rought
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Posted - 2013.11.11 05:41:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:843 Epidemic wrote:But as Gallente we DO have to sacrifice armour for:
PG Expansion
CPU
Red bottles
Green bottles
Profile dampeners
Shield regulators
Hacking modules
All these incredibly core things we either have to sacrifice or sacrifice our armour for.
Plus a core locus grenade can one shot any gallente.
HTFU. Did you really say that...a core locus nade will one shot anyone
Untrue. If it was I'd beat kalente a lot more cause my nades truly would be OP and not just op.
He survives my core unless I get a headshot with it.
That's Masternader to you scrub.
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Zatara Rought
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Posted - 2013.11.11 05:52:00 -
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I specced out of Callogi with the respec because I knew it was OP. Gallente sucked balls forever because you had max 330 shields and you couldn't get more than 225 armor (the base) without sacrificing a ludicrous amount of move speed (and inherently strafe speed).
Then they released ferroscale and reactive and the reactive sucked (and everyone proved they were worthless because a repper fitting beat them overall everytime) but the ferroscale mitigated the armor plates movement penalty. So slap 2-3 ferroscale on and a regular plate on the other low(s) and you could move relatively well again 
Then they reduced the movement penalties for regular plates and increased the values on the other plates and suddenly I see all these threads.
Personally I think the gallente logi is a little op.
I'm not sure how I'd nerf it, but I do think nerfing the rep rate to all logi's and forcing them to put a repper on a low just like most other suits would help. Furthermore I do support logi's being required to fill all low slots (even if they just end up putting on 4 compacts or 4 injectors).
That's Masternader to you scrub.
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Doc DDD
TeamPlayers
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Posted - 2013.11.11 21:10:00 -
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Nerf gal logi cpu like cal logi |
Zatara Rought
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Posted - 2013.11.12 03:04:00 -
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Doc DDD wrote:Nerf gal logi cpu like cal logi
wouldn't do much of anything. Would you like to see fitting differences before and after I use a basic cpu upgrade and then still fit the same tank, damage mods, weapons, and equips?
That's Masternader to you scrub.
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DJINN Marauder
Paladin Survey Force
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.11.12 03:08:00 -
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Zatara Rought wrote:THUNDERGROOVE wrote:
No one would run 4 K17/D's only can place two for a max of 40. Wyrikomi triage.
That's obvious. He used the advanced because everyone would think of your exact logic, and then realize triage and allotek actually cost more pg, enhancing his point. lol trying to do any strafing at all on a compact.
Don't need to strafe... That's for nubs :P
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Doc DDD
TeamPlayers
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Posted - 2013.11.12 05:25:00 -
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Zatara Rought wrote:Doc DDD wrote:Nerf gal logi cpu like cal logi wouldn't do much of anything. Would you like to see fitting differences before and after I use a basic cpu upgrade and then still fit the same tank, damage mods, weapons, and equips?
Would be a start, if having a cpu chip becomes a necessity to run any useful equipment ( possibly paired with the changing of the equipment bonus to something armor related ) then you only slightly nerf the suit without making it useless. The gal logi is far superior to gal assault. A cpu chip necessity would slow the suit down and reduce total hit points. Try making a fit with say 100 less cpu and 15 less pg ( if your equipment bonus was changed ). Im sure you can figure out the exact math, but that would be similar to the cal logi nerf. Next qqing would be the new fotm min logi needing a nerf, likely just cpu. Then suits would be more balanced and ccp can focus on weapon balance or new suits. |
Spkr4theDead
Red Star.
EoN.
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Posted - 2013.11.12 05:58:00 -
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Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:Ever think maybe it's not the suit that's OP?
Been saying that about tanks, but you think infantry would consider it, noooo..............
Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me, such is the motto of the anti vehicle infantry.
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Spkr4theDead
Red Star.
EoN.
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Posted - 2013.11.12 06:01:00 -
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THUNDERGROOVE wrote:Rei Shepard wrote:Vegetation Monster wrote:They are OP because the can put on complex dmg without sacrificing any hp mods and brick their ass above 700 armor. Why go over 700 armor because armor repair hives make it so you dont even need a repper and the gallante logistics is just the worse, d complex/enhanced dmg mods with 4 triage hives and 5 complex/enhanced armor plates and a duvolle. And then watch it waddle accross the battlefield, no offense but what you are sugesting, i am pretty sure wont fit on any suit...(i run amarr assault and they still drop like cakes and i use SCR. Complex armor plate x5 = 60PG Advanced K17 R hives x4 = 48PG Duvolle = 13PG Complex Damage Mods x3 = 27PG Grenade Core = 6PG Thats a total of 154 PG, sure it gets a reduction here and there, i am pretty sure it wont fit, also its CPU use would run dry aswell. No one would run 4 K17/D's only can place two for a max of 40. Wyrikomi triage.
Two Wiyrkomi triage, two Allotek, two K17/D and a compact nanohive. If I had more infantry stuff skilled up, I'd say come at me bro.
Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me, such is the motto of the anti vehicle infantry.
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Laurent Cazaderon
What The French
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Posted - 2013.11.12 09:32:00 -
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meh.... OP is not the right word here... And gallente assault are tough but not invincible. They are exactly what they should be i my opinion.
Only thing that is wrong comes gall logis. They're overkill due to having so many slots and a native repair rate on the armor. Pretty much similar to the cal logi issue. Except gall logi had to wait ferroscale and reactive plates to actually become more powefull than their assault equivalent.
and obviously i respecd out of gall logis toward assault winmater before that happends 
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Et vive la France !
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Zatara Rought
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Posted - 2013.11.12 09:38:00 -
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Laurent Cazaderon wrote:meh.... OP is not the right word here... And gallente assault are tough but not invincible. They are exactly what they should be i my opinion. Only thing that is wrong comes gall logis. They're overkill due to having so many slots and a native repair rate on the armor. Pretty much similar to the cal logi issue. Except gall logi had to wait ferroscale and reactive plates to actually become more powefull than their assault equivalent. and obviously i respecd out of gall logis toward assault winmater before that happends
Remove the native rep rate and add ccp's previously mentioned new bonuses that will increase stuff like nanohive range or rep rate and then the 25% reduction and native rep rate that combined make the gallente logi better than it's assault counterpart will be gone.
Gallente assaults are super UP because there's not a fit in hell you can get with the gallente assault that'll give you over 750+ ehp that the gallente logi can't make and then put proto equips on top of it.
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Jack McReady
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.11.12 09:44:00 -
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my cooked grenades disagrees. |
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