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Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 766	Posted - 2013.11.09 03:09:00 - [1] - Quote Why is it that the only education given about the 4 (techincally 5) races a 30 second clip? And of that 30 second clip the only things that could be drawn from that is Gallente and Minmatar are perfect little angels and Caldari and Ammarians are corporate dictators and religious bigots. Now think about this, If a newberry decides to start playing this game, what does he do before picking a race? Does he take a look and read up on lore and decide which race is the best choice for him? No. All he does is watch the 15-30 second clips. And those small snippets are way too biased towards the Gallente and Minmatar to be considered credible. I say we include some lore into the DUST side of New Eden and make those video descriptions actually meaningful and credible Please, sign if you agree -HAND There there Mr. Scout and Ms. Heavy, don't cry You'll still be useful in my eyes
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 766	Posted - 2013.11.09 03:09:00 - [2] - Quote [Reserved] There there Mr. Scout and Ms. Heavy, don't cry You'll still be useful in my eyes
Aria Gomes Death by Disassociation 107	Posted - 2013.11.09 03:12:00 - [3] - Quote (shrugs) Caldari is awesome though from what I got from their bio. But I liked Minmatar's bio better and was more suited to how I think.
DeadlyAztec11 Gallente Federation 2426	Posted - 2013.11.09 03:13:00 - [4] - Quote The truth hurts, does it not? Madness is the emergency exit. You can just step outside, and close the door on all those dreadful things that happened.
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 766	Posted - 2013.11.09 03:14:00 - [5] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: The truth hurts, does it not? What truth? There there Mr. Scout and Ms. Heavy, don't cry You'll still be useful in my eyes
Michael Arck Anubis Prime Syndicate 1781	Posted - 2013.11.09 03:15:00 - [6] - Quote Well, I had some type of understanding since before Dust, I was reading up on EVE lore a little bit. The one thing I like about Caldari is their fierce determination, even in the face of death.
Fire of Prometheus DUST University Ivy League 1506	Posted - 2013.11.09 03:15:00 - [7] - Quote I chose amarr cause they look freaking awesome!!! "It is the mark of an educated mind to entertain a thought without accepting it." -Aristotle
medomai grey WarRavens League of Infamy 319	Posted - 2013.11.09 03:16:00 - [8] - Quote Signed. The introduction to the 4 empires is pretty biased. They should show the best and worst qualities of each empire. Blatant Dust_514 recruiting in the silliest of places. :P
KING CHECKMATE AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS 2317	Posted - 2013.11.09 03:18:00 - [9] - Quote Atiim wrote: Why is it that the only education given about the 4 (techincally 5) races a 30 second clip? And of that 30 second clip the only things that could be drawn from that is Gallente and Minmatar are perfect little angels and Caldari and Ammarians are corporate dictators and religious bigots. Now think about this, If a newberry decides to start playing this game, what does he do before picking a race? Does he take a look and read up on lore and decide which race is the best choice for him? No. All he does is watch the 15-30 second clips. And those small snippets are way too biased towards the Gallente and Minmatar to be considered credible. I say we include some lore into the DUST side of New Eden and make those video descriptions actually meaningful and credible Please, sign if you agree -HAND WAIT. what 30 sec clip...? O.o u+Élop s-¦ -Äll+Én-ç+ö+É
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 767	Posted - 2013.11.09 03:20:00 - [10] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: WAIT. what 30 sec clip...? O.o When you are selecting your race, press Triangle and a 30 second clip will appear giving "details" about that race There there Mr. Scout and Ms. Heavy, don't cry You'll still be useful in my eyes

Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 10016	Posted - 2013.11.09 03:21:00 - [11] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Atiim wrote: Why is it that the only education given about the 4 (techincally 5) races a 30 second clip? And of that 30 second clip the only things that could be drawn from that is Gallente and Minmatar are perfect little angels and Caldari and Ammarians are corporate dictators and religious bigots. Now think about this, If a newberry decides to start playing this game, what does he do before picking a race? Does he take a look and read up on lore and decide which race is the best choice for him? No. All he does is watch the 15-30 second clips. And those small snippets are way too biased towards the Gallente and Minmatar to be considered credible. I say we include some lore into the DUST side of New Eden and make those video descriptions actually meaningful and credible Please, sign if you agree -HAND WAIT. what 30 sec clip...? O.o Gallente - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJmL28cbULc Amarr - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uk4XH9gUB8o Minmatar - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7Oc_TWDjsU Caldari - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wK0gF17RVio All videos are in Dust 514 during character creation, press /\ for more info on the empire selection. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier Specialist Current Theme \\= Advanced Laser Rifle =// Unlocked
Llast 326 An Arkhos 384	Posted - 2013.11.09 03:22:00 - [12] - Quote Before i could even ask Thank you IWS I am that Some Margin of Error
Meeko Fent Xer Cloud Consortium 1465	Posted - 2013.11.09 03:23:00 - [13] - Quote Yup. Gallente- Corrupt, Free Minmatar- Feral, freedom fighters Amarr- Religious Slavers, God Fearing Law Abiders Caldari- Corporate Dictatership, Extremely Patriotic For the State! For Caldari FW join Caldari Hierarchy
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 10019	Posted - 2013.11.09 03:34:00 - [14] - Quote I have to say Capsuleers regardless of race are pretty damn heartless bunch http://www.eveonline.com/creations/fiction/all-these-lives-are-fit-to-ruin/ CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier Specialist Current Theme \\= Advanced Laser Rifle =// Unlocked
Mr Machine Guns Nyain San Proficiency V. 103	Posted - 2013.11.09 03:37:00 - [15] - Quote us gallente have four eyes for some reason
Zero Notion Wraith Company 289	Posted - 2013.11.09 03:38:00 - [16] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: I have to say Capsuleers regardless of race are pretty damn heartless bunch http://www.eveonline.com/creations/fiction/all-these-lives-are-fit-to-ruin/ Pfft, they have hearts beyond measure. It's only the mortals who live to suffer death that would call them heartless, those who measure their lives by the beat of their single heart. CLONES FOREVER Y'ALL.
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 770	Posted - 2013.11.09 03:48:00 - [17] - Quote Mr Machine Guns wrote: us gallente have four eyes for some reason It's quite funny how with 4 eyes the Gallente still can't see the truth behind their actions. There there Mr. Scout and Ms. Heavy, don't cry You'll still be useful in my eyes
KING CHECKMATE AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS 2317	Posted - 2013.11.09 03:52:00 - [18] - Quote Atiim wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: WAIT. what 30 sec clip...? O.o When you are selecting your race, press Triangle and a 30 second clip will appear giving "details" about that race W T H Didnt know this u+Élop s-¦ -Äll+Én-ç+ö+É
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 770	Posted - 2013.11.09 03:57:00 - [19] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Atiim wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: WAIT. what 30 sec clip...? O.o When you are selecting your race, press Triangle and a 30 second clip will appear giving "details" about that race W T H Didnt know this faceplams How did you not know this? Though I shouldn't be talking, I skilled into logistics because I thought it had 3 light weapon slots. We were all scrubs at some point I guess. There there Mr. Scout and Ms. Heavy, don't cry You'll still be useful in my eyes
Void Echo 2127	Posted - 2013.11.09 04:00:00 - [20] - Quote these are the same videos in the playsation home event horizon lounge and the descriptions are the exact same as the eve online race bois in the character creation. Youtube Closed Beta Vet Level 2.1 Forum Warrior

Jaysyn Larrisen OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 224	Posted - 2013.11.09 15:12:00 - [21] - Quote Most folks don't even know the racial intro videos exist when they are creating their first character. I know I would have selected a different racial option if I had understood more. I actually think if your racial option had impacts on skills or perks folks would pay a LOT more attention.
Sleepy Zan Xer Cloud Consortium 2755	Posted - 2013.11.09 15:30:00 - [22] - Quote Personally I don't really care. We all shoot each other. A real sniper doesn't provide battlefield intelligence, a real sniper leaves no intelligence left on the battlefield.
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 773	Posted - 2013.11.09 15:33:00 - [23] - Quote Jaysyn Larrisen wrote: Most folks don't even know the racial intro videos exist when they are creating their first character. I know I would have selected a different racial option if I had understood more. I actually think if your racial option had impacts on skills or perks folks would pay a LOT more attention. By the time I found out about the four races, I was at 6mil SP and had to start all over again. Which is why we need better education DUST side. There there Mr. Scout and Ms. Heavy, don't cry You'll still be useful in my eyes
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 773	Posted - 2013.11.09 15:34:00 - [24] - Quote Sleepy Zan wrote: Personally I don't really care. We all shoot each other. Yes, but this isn't your Run-Of-The-Mill FPS. This is an "MMO"FPS that has "ties" with the New Eden universe. There there Mr. Scout and Ms. Heavy, don't cry You'll still be useful in my eyes
Sleepy Zan Xer Cloud Consortium 2755	Posted - 2013.11.09 15:37:00 - [25] - Quote Atiim wrote: Sleepy Zan wrote: Personally I don't really care. We all shoot each other. Yes, but this isn't your Run-Of-The-Mill FPS. This is an "MMO"FPS that has "ties" with the New Eden universe. Nope at this moment for the most part this is my run-of-the-mill fps and even if it wasn't we still all just shoot each other. A real sniper doesn't provide battlefield intelligence, a real sniper leaves no intelligence left on the battlefield.
Himiko Kuronaga The Generals EoN. 2224	Posted - 2013.11.09 15:41:00 - [26] - Quote CCP spends all of its voice acting and cinematic budget on trailers instead of actual gameplay related geekery.
Harpyja Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 749	Posted - 2013.11.09 15:41:00 - [27] - Quote Fire of Prometheus wrote: I chose amarr cause they look freaking awesome!!! I chose Amarr because I was pure Amarrian for the longest time ever in EVE. But why was I Amarr in EVE? First, I like their backstory as the largest and most powerful empire, and a religious one as well. Second, their ships were the best aesthetically; plus I came about to love armor tanking. And third, energy weapons were my favorite of all the weapons. So yes, I am pro Amarr for ever! Long live the empire! P.S. I can't wait to get my hands on some Amarr vehicles. Although I'm an armor tanker of old, I'll never betray my Caldari brethren and operate Gallente vehicles. So I can only operate Caldari vehicles, which which has made me a skilled shield user as well. "By His light, and His will" - The Scriptures, Gheinok the First, 12:32
Paran Tadec Imperfect Bastards 1627	Posted - 2013.11.09 15:41:00 - [28] - Quote The only story that matters in New Eden is what you create. Bittervet Proficiency V thanks logibro!
Sleepy Zan Xer Cloud Consortium 2755	Posted - 2013.11.09 15:43:00 - [29] - Quote Paran Tadec wrote: The only story that matters in New Eden is what you create. lol you cheezy mother ****** A real sniper doesn't provide battlefield intelligence, a real sniper leaves no intelligence left on the battlefield.
low genius The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance 845	Posted - 2013.11.09 15:44:00 - [30] - Quote http://community.eveonline.com/backstory/chronicles/ there you go. have fun.

low genius The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance 845	Posted - 2013.11.09 15:45:00 - [31] - Quote Jaysyn Larrisen wrote: Most folks don't even know the racial intro videos exist when they are creating their first character. I know I would have selected a different racial option if I had understood more. I actually think if your racial option had impacts on skills or perks folks would pay a LOT more attention. I think it would hold you back.
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 775	Posted - 2013.11.09 15:48:00 - [32] - Quote low genius wrote: http://community.eveonline.com/backstory/chronicles/ there you go. have fun. Problem is, not every new player knows about this. There there Mr. Scout and Ms. Heavy, don't cry You'll still be useful in my eyes
low genius The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance 845	Posted - 2013.11.09 16:03:00 - [33] - Quote Atiim wrote: low genius wrote: http://community.eveonline.com/backstory/chronicles/ there you go. have fun. Problem is, not every new player knows about this. now they know.
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 776	Posted - 2013.11.09 16:05:00 - [34] - Quote Paran Tadec wrote: The only story that matters in New Eden is what you create. But how are you going to create your own story without true knowledge of one's being? There there Mr. Scout and Ms. Heavy, don't cry You'll still be useful in my eyes
VAHZZ The dyst0pian Corporation 81	Posted - 2013.11.09 16:13:00 - [35] - Quote I agree with this, i may be a sap..but i love backstory/lore..the reason i chose Gallente was because i liked the armor and that they were portrayed as galiant and intaki's were regarded as sage like. /signed Ashes to ashes, dust to dust. Adapt or die. *Newfound seeker of knowledge and truth.*
Akdhar Saif Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 65	Posted - 2013.11.09 16:14:00 - [36] - Quote I like how there is practically no point in race. Maybe CCP should let us align ourselves with Empire Specific Factions. Make being the correct race a requirement and give us themed battles. Minmatar - Free the slaves from Amarr slaver mercs Amarr - Destroy the heathens who dare to corrupt another world with their paganism Caldari - Fight the corrupt for Caldari people Gallente - Spread "Freedom" and "Democracy" to everyone and anyone because it pays the bills.
Sgt Kirk SyNergy Gaming EoN. 2669	Posted - 2013.11.09 17:01:00 - [37] - Quote Of course there's more to each race than just the bio but that's a good overview. It won't necessarily do the Amarr any good unless they did away with the slavery part in the description, the religious part isn't even bad, it's the pairing of the two that makes a pretty potent potion of "**** these guys" but that's a very significant part of their culture, to not have that would be like saying the Caldari aren't founded on the tenants of hardwork or Minmatar Culture isn't tribal in nature or Gallente having the most diverse population of the faction. Not to be crass but to restate what the other poster said before me, truth hurts. Besides, the description for the Amarr gives them several big +1 to persuade a person: the largest and oldest of the four empires Amarrian citizens tend to be highly educated the Amarr Empire is the most stable nation and most powerful military in New Eden The newer the berry the dumber the juice.*
MrShooter01 Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 335	Posted - 2013.11.09 17:06:00 - [38] - Quote medomai grey wrote: Signed. The introduction to the 4 empires is pretty biased. They should show the best and worst qualities of each empire. Caldari best quality: so awesome Caldari worst quality: it hurts to be so awesome all the time
Joel II X AHPA 104	Posted - 2013.11.09 17:08:00 - [39] - Quote Choosing a rave only matters if you like a specific starter suit which requires trying every race out, or being a lore nerd. You can skill into other races' suits (which I think is ridiculous) and weapons if you want, so in the end, it doesn't really matter.
Zero Notion Wraith Company 296	Posted - 2013.11.09 17:18:00 - [40] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: Of course there's more to each race than just the bio but that's a good overview. It won't necessarily do the Amarr any good unless they did away with the slavery part in the description, the religious part isn't even bad, it's the pairing of the two that makes a pretty potent potion of "**** these guys" but that's a very significant part of their culture, to not have that would be like saying the Caldari aren't founded on the tenants of hardwork or Minmatar Culture isn't tribal in nature or Gallente having the most diverse population of the faction. Not to be crass but to restate what the other poster said before me, truth hurts. Besides, the description for the Amarr gives them several big +1 to persuade a person: the largest and oldest of the four empires Amarrian citizens tend to be highly educated *the Amarr Empire is the most stable nation and most powerful military in New Eden Perhaps the Amarr know something that the others do not. Some deeply seeded secret from a time before the EVE Gates collapsed, when humanity had taken its first steps toward ascension beyond their mortal and biological coils that bind them. Perhaps the EVE Gate collapsing was a timely, if not divinely, mishap that brought the foolish mortals who thought to play at Godhood back down into the Earth where they belong. Perhaps their entire culture, even their zealous and divinely blessed Monarchy, is a tool to keep men where they belong. A unified faith and way of life to ensure that the foolish will not dream beyond the boundaries of their own horizon and safeguarding all of humanity from a wayward sect or tribe that might bring about disaster by way of their lofty arrogance. Truly it is the Amarr who shoulder this heavy burden, like the ancient Titan Atlas shouldering the weight of the world; they bear the weight of hope for all human kind, made heavier by the methodology they must employ to protect them. Luckily, they're doing just a fine job! Right? No immortal soldiers or rogue capsuleers in this universe. No sir.

Ripcord19981 KNIGHTZ OF THE ROUND 220	Posted - 2013.11.09 17:19:00 - [41] - Quote signed, thats why i picked gallente but after reading the lore and the books, Im more of a caldari. I have no respect fro the gallente, maybe some for the minmatar I can only please one person per day. Today is not ur day, tomorrow doesn't look too bright either. Turkey sammich>taco
Kovinis Sparagas Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 77	Posted - 2013.11.09 17:34:00 - [42] - Quote Signed. EVE Online suffers from the same thing, because they use the same videos. Besides, I think we should choose race, and THEN gender. Now before I choose my race I always have to see Caldari mercs. best kill streak
Jacques Cayton II Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 91	Posted - 2013.11.09 17:55:00 - [43] - Quote Signed


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