DUST Search - [Request] Improving the Scout's Scan radius

Zero Notion wrote:

I typically play an Assault or Logistics dropsuit but I've got a secondary character that has 4 million SP dedicated into Scout and Snipers, along with a smattering in pistols, ScR and SMG. I've got another that's advanced Heavy and Commando - so far, out of all the suits, the Scouts seem to have the least going for them except for the Commando (but at least he can fill several different roles if need be..sort of).

It would be powerful for sure but they need to retain their fragility, their speed and their stealth niche without giving or taking away too much of their current base stats and slots - I feel that they are perfect, slot/stat wise, in terms of being a deep recon and ambushing class. They wouldn't need invisibility with this - they should be able to 'see' more than any other class in order to be able to react quickly, hack unguarded points, flee from opponents as they approach, etc. No need to buff their health or shields, give them a tool to utilize properly as the class demands and I think you'd find more happy scouts (except the nova knifers, sorry dudes).

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Zero Notion Wraith Company 282	Posted - 2013.11.08 22:41:00 - [1] - Quote You guys were on the right path with buffing the Scout's scan distance; it needs to one step further and allow Scouts to be capable of having a passive scan radius of 360 degrees around them. If they are going to be lightly armored, low pg/cpu and few slots then there must be more defensive measures in place to increase survivability in a match. This would help with the success of stealthy, Ninja attacks as well. Just a thought.
gbrngfol WestSide001 2	Posted - 2013.11.08 22:57:00 - [2] - Quote This plus the shotgun fix would be devastatingly powerful.
Zero Notion Wraith Company 284	Posted - 2013.11.08 23:19:00 - [3] - Quote I typically play an Assault or Logistics dropsuit but I've got a secondary character that has 4 million SP dedicated into Scout and Snipers, along with a smattering in pistols, ScR and SMG. I've got another that's advanced Heavy and Commando - so far, out of all the suits, the Scouts seem to have the least going for them except for the Commando (but at least he can fill several different roles if need be..sort of). It would be powerful for sure but they need to retain their fragility, their speed and their stealth niche without giving or taking away too much of their current base stats and slots - I feel that they are perfect, slot/stat wise, in terms of being a deep recon and ambushing class. They wouldn't need invisibility with this - they should be able to 'see' more than any other class in order to be able to react quickly, hack unguarded points, flee from opponents as they approach, etc. No need to buff their health or shields, give them a tool to utilize properly as the class demands and I think you'd find more happy scouts (except the nova knifers, sorry dudes).
Smooth Assassin Stardust incorporation 342	Posted - 2013.11.09 02:26:00 - [4] - Quote Don't passive scan, scan 360 degrees now? *Assassination is my thing.*
Zero Notion Wraith Company 289	Posted - 2013.11.09 02:37:00 - [5] - Quote Pretty sure it doesn't, it's in a cone shape in front of you.
Krom Ganesh Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 601	Posted - 2013.11.09 03:01:00 - [6] - Quote It is 360 degrees. The cone in front is the line-of-sight spotting which every suit gets.
Zero Notion Wraith Company 289	Posted - 2013.11.09 03:11:00 - [7] - Quote Ahh, I guess that I was referring to; a more 360 LoS for the Suit.
Llast 326 An Arkhos 384	Posted - 2013.11.09 04:48:00 - [8] - Quote Zero Notion wrote: Ahh, I guess that I was referring to; a more 360 LoS for the Suit. This would eliminate the scan as a whole then, no? I am that Some Margin of Error
Zero Notion Wraith Company 289	Posted - 2013.11.09 04:50:00 - [9] - Quote Potentially, I suppose it would be something akin to an active scanner that's always on but based on the suits precision capabilities.
Llast 326 An Arkhos 384	Posted - 2013.11.09 05:01:00 - [10] - Quote Your line of sight gives you much further "view" than your passive scan range does. Essentially the effect would be giving you a scan range further than the actual radar in your hud has, add to that the 10% bonus to range of Gal scout and or range extendersGÇª it would be too much I think. This character is all about the passive scan, and if you gave this buff to it, i could open the map screen and tell you exactly where every enemy, uplink, and nano hive is. Hell i can tell a heavy from an assault just by how fast in move in the Tacnet, I would be OP. 20m range for all scout frames with 16m for other light frames would be a balanced fix, although I find the current 16 to be very useful. I am that Some Margin of Error

Zero Notion Wraith Company 290	Posted - 2013.11.09 05:06:00 - [11] - Quote Hm, so I'm confused. Why is it that I don't see enemies approaching from behind? I thought you had to be facing them and win a precision contest in order light them on the tac? Everything I know is a lie!
Llast 326 An Arkhos 384	Posted - 2013.11.09 05:11:00 - [12] - Quote What are you running? I can probably help if I understand the issue. I am all EWAR. I am that Some Margin of Error
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 5005	Posted - 2013.11.09 05:17:00 - [13] - Quote Um... I know I'm absolutely certain that the passive scan IS 360 degrees. CCP, please fix the Nova Knives. Thank you.
Llast 326 An Arkhos 386	Posted - 2013.11.09 05:21:00 - [14] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Um... I know I'm absolutely certain that the passive scan IS 360 degrees. It is, with out a doubt, but the OP seems to have trouble picking people up. Could be he keeps get scoutbushed, most of us will outdo any basic precision even on another scout suit. I am that Some Margin of Error
Zero Notion Wraith Company 292	Posted - 2013.11.09 05:23:00 - [15] - Quote Hm. I'm going to experiment with some range enhances and see if it changes; I can't honestly recall a time when I noticed someone creeping up behind me and having their chevron appear in the TAC but I may be imagining things.
Llast 326 An Arkhos 386	Posted - 2013.11.09 05:27:00 - [16] - Quote I lay REs down before a hack to defend my butt, when i see them coming i detonate and continue hacking. I know that i can see them behind me. But i recommend experimenting, it's fun. I am that Some Margin of Error
Zero Notion Wraith Company 292	Posted - 2013.11.09 05:28:00 - [17] - Quote Well, I can see my things sure; does it work the same with the enemy?
Llast 326 An Arkhos 386	Posted - 2013.11.09 05:37:00 - [18] - Quote Zero Notion wrote: Well, I can see my things sure; does it work the same with the enemy? You should be able to see when they are approaching, yes. I am that Some Margin of Error
Seeth Mensch highland marines 50	Posted - 2013.11.09 06:17:00 - [19] - Quote Zero Notion wrote: I typically play an Assault or Logistics dropsuit but I've got a secondary character that has 4 million SP dedicated into Scout and Snipers, along with a smattering in pistols, ScR and SMG. I've got another that's advanced Heavy and Commando - so far, out of all the suits, the Scouts seem to have the least going for them except for the Commando (but at least he can fill several different roles if need be..sort of). It would be powerful for sure but they need to retain their fragility, their speed and their stealth niche without giving or taking away too much of their current base stats and slots - I feel that they are perfect, slot/stat wise, in terms of being a deep recon and ambushing class. They wouldn't need invisibility with this - they should be able to 'see' more than any other class in order to be able to react quickly, hack unguarded points, flee from opponents as they approach, etc. No need to buff their health or shields, give them a tool to utilize properly as the class demands and I think you'd find more happy scouts (except the nova knifers, sorry dudes). ^^ this!
Broonfondle Majikthies Bannana Boat Corp 407	Posted - 2013.11.09 06:39:00 - [20] - Quote I run Range Amplifiers. It works 360-¦ and in a 3D sphere above and below you Also I tested it out and the basic frame (not scout) does indeed have a scan radius of 20m as standard (but obviously taking advantage of that leaves you open to scanners ) "We demand rigidly defined areas of doubt and uncertainty!"



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