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Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1207	Posted - 2013.11.08 22:09:00 - [1] - Quote Decided to hit my tank in the weak spot with a Wiyrkomi breach forge gun (proficiency 3), low shield and no modules running. Result? My tank was insta-popped by my forge. And this with 6753 armor. With a forge gun, that's better against shield. Next time infantry complains that AV is hard to use, remember the immense power you hold in your hands. Then remember that, quite literally tankers are usually more intelligent than you, which is why so many seem to have trouble destroying us. Then again, a lot of you want vehicles removed entirely, so you're already biased. Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me, such is the motto of the anti vehicle infantry.
Kane Fyea DUST University Ivy League 2166	Posted - 2013.11.08 22:12:00 - [2] - Quote Actually the forge gun does more damage vs armor not shields.
THEAMAZING POTHEAD Nyain San Proficiency V. 530	Posted - 2013.11.08 22:15:00 - [3] - Quote More intelligent? Red star? Thats a good one. BTW fg's do more damage to armor. ******. Hybrid weapons were changed to do 110% armor 90% shield. Right now the only weapons to do shield damage are laser based weapons, none of which are AV. Shield vehicles now resist all AV weapons, besides flux grenades.
KING CHECKMATE AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS 2308	Posted - 2013.11.08 22:15:00 - [4] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: Decided to hit my tank in the weak spot with a Wiyrkomi breach forge gun (proficiency 3), low shield and no modules running. Result? My tank was insta-popped by my forge. And this with 6753 armor. With a forge gun, that's better against shield. . Lies u+Élop s-¦ -Äll+Én-ç+ö+É
Knight Soiaire R 0 N 1 N 3141	Posted - 2013.11.08 22:17:00 - [5] - Quote THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote: More intelligent? Red star? Thats a good one. BTW fg's do more damage to armor. ******. Hybrid weapons were changed to do 110% armor 90% shield. Right now the only weapons to do shield damage are laser based weapons, none of which are AV. Shield vehicles now resist all AV weapons, besides flux grenades. Hybrid weapons were never changed. Gallente do - +10% Shield, -10% Armour. Caldari do - +10% Armour, - 10% Shield. At least, thats how I think its always been, I could be wrong though. Save General John Ripper! Catz Addict
Bendtner92 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1250	Posted - 2013.11.08 22:24:00 - [6] - Quote 1. As already mentioned, FGs are 90/110% damage. 2. Fully maxed Breach FG with two damage mods does what, 4.3k damage? Of course it will one-shot your tank in your weakspot if you're low on shields with no resistance. 3. Don't expose your weakspots. 4. Don't get caught with mods on cooldown. 5. Who the **** cares when there's major vehicle rebalancing coming in 1.7? Winner of the EU Squad Cup & the closed beta Tester's Tournament. Go Go Power Rangers!
Xender17 Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 899	Posted - 2013.11.08 22:26:00 - [7] - Quote Hybrid does more damage to shields though. Even though they are 'suppose' even for hybrid weaponry. If you use blasters on anything you will see the damage % change. What the fox say?
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 2036	Posted - 2013.11.08 22:27:00 - [8] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: Decided to hit my tank in the weak spot with a Wiyrkomi breach forge gun (proficiency 3), low shield and no modules running. Result? My tank was insta-popped by my forge. And this with 6753 armor. With a forge gun, that's better against shield. Next time infantry complains that AV is hard to use, remember the immense power you hold in your hands. Then remember that, quite literally tankers are usually more intelligent than you, which is why so many seem to have trouble destroying us. Then again, a lot of you want vehicles removed entirely, so you're already biased. I guess if I stand at point blank range with a plasma cannon and fire it directly at someone, that means the plasma cannon is fine? No.
Keri Starlight 0uter.Heaven Proficiency V. 1882	Posted - 2013.11.08 22:29:00 - [9] - Quote Kane Fyea wrote: Actually the forge gun does more damage vs armor not shields. lol no, the Forge Gun, also known as "The bane of the Gunnlogi", does more damage to shields. Sources: My poor Gunnlogi -Caldari Achura - One with the Universe -Tac AR Specialist "I load my gun with love instead of bullets"
Bendtner92 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1251	Posted - 2013.11.08 22:32:00 - [10] - Quote Keri Starlight wrote: Kane Fyea wrote: Actually the forge gun does more damage vs armor not shields. lol no, the Forge Gun, also known as "The bane of the Gunnlogi", does more damage to shields. Sources: My poor Gunnlogi You and everyone else stating this, please get your facts straight on this matter. No offense, but it's not that hard. http://dust514.com/news/blog/2013/07/weapon-ranges-in-uprising-1.2-and-beyond/ Devblog wrote: Forge Gun = Railgun Hybrid, 90% damage to shields and 110% damage to armor Winner of the EU Squad Cup & the closed beta Tester's Tournament. Go Go Power Rangers!

Jastad D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 185	Posted - 2013.11.08 22:33:00 - [11] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: Decided to hit my tank in the weak spot with a Wiyrkomi breach forge gun (proficiency 3), low shield and no modules running. Result? My tank was insta-popped by my forge. And this with 6753 armor. With a forge gun, that's better against shield. Next time infantry complains that AV is hard to use, remember the immense power you hold in your hands. Then remember that, quite literally tankers are usually more intelligent than you, which is why so many seem to have trouble destroying us. Then again, a lot of you want vehicles removed entirely, so you're already biased. Cmon Spkr4 i had play vs you in PC and know that you are a good tanker, so i think this is a TROLL THREAD. If you get it in your weak spot by my " OMFG6SECCHARGEandCANTMOVEWHILECHARGIN" Breach the blame is for the tanker. ALWAYS. ...and may the FORGE be with you.
Jastad D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 185	Posted - 2013.11.08 22:35:00 - [12] - Quote Keri Starlight wrote: Kane Fyea wrote: Actually the forge gun does more damage vs armor not shields. lol no, the Forge Gun, also known as "The bane of the Gunnlogi", does more damage to shields. Sources: My poor Gunnlogi No the forge is doing more DMG to armor. What kill the Gunnlogi is his low recovery EHP, that can't keep up with the DPS of the Forge. ...and may the FORGE be with you.
Knight Soiaire R 0 N 1 N 3142	Posted - 2013.11.08 22:35:00 - [13] - Quote Jastad wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: Decided to hit my tank in the weak spot with a Wiyrkomi breach forge gun (proficiency 3), low shield and no modules running. Result? My tank was insta-popped by my forge. And this with 6753 armor. With a forge gun, that's better against shield. Next time infantry complains that AV is hard to use, remember the immense power you hold in your hands. Then remember that, quite literally tankers are usually more intelligent than you, which is why so many seem to have trouble destroying us. Then again, a lot of you want vehicles removed entirely, so you're already biased. Cmon Spkr4 i had play vs you in PC and know that you are a good tanker, so i think this is a TROLL THREAD. If you get it in your weak spot by my " OMFG6SECCHARGEandCANTMOVEWHILECHARGIN" Breach the blame is for the tanker. ALWAYS. I've heard that you can hop while charging, but I dont have a Breach so I wouldn't know. Breach are pretty deadly, they can OHK any DS, and because of draw distance, chances are you wont be able to see them. And two synchronized Breach shots can insta-pop any tank, or leave him weak enough for AV nades to finish the job. Save General John Ripper! Catz Addict
KING CHECKMATE AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS 2308	Posted - 2013.11.08 22:36:00 - [14] - Quote people please. I mean anyone taking this thread seriously is jsut insane. Of course he is lying, Spkr4 is known as one of Master Tankers! OF THE QQ.... 6000+ Armor destroyed buy a single FG shot please..not even WITHOUT damage resistance... HAHAHA Pics or didnt happen. u+Élop s-¦ -Äll+Én-ç+ö+É
Keri Starlight 0uter.Heaven Proficiency V. 1882	Posted - 2013.11.08 22:36:00 - [15] - Quote Bendtner92 wrote: Keri Starlight wrote: Kane Fyea wrote: Actually the forge gun does more damage vs armor not shields. lol no, the Forge Gun, also known as "The bane of the Gunnlogi", does more damage to shields. Sources: My poor Gunnlogi You and everyone else stating this, please get your facts straight on this matter. No offense, but it's not that hard. http://dust514.com/news/blog/2013/07/weapon-ranges-in-uprising-1.2-and-beyond/ Devblog wrote: Forge Gun = Railgun Hybrid, 90% damage to shields and 110% damage to armor I'm aiming a Forge Gun at my damn tank right now as I'm typing and it says 110%. Get your facts straight. No offence, but it's not that hard. -Caldari Achura - One with the Universe -Tac AR Specialist "I load my gun with love instead of bullets"
Jastad D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 185	Posted - 2013.11.08 22:40:00 - [16] - Quote Knight Soiaire wrote: I've heard that you can hop while charging, but I dont have a Breach so I wouldn't know. Breach are pretty deadly, they can OHK any DS, and because of draw distance, chances are you wont be able to see them. And two synchronized Breach shots can insta-pop any tank, or leave him weak enough for AV nades to finish the job. Ok but the Breach is working as intended. VERY VERY BIG ALPHA, very very low dps. I one shotted a Maddy to with it, but hey, he was standing in the open melting infantry and not moving. i took my time to flank, get on his/her back, charge for 6 second and shoot him. Real tanker that do this kind of noob play? 1% ...and may the FORGE be with you.
Jastad D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 185	Posted - 2013.11.08 22:42:00 - [17] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: people please. I mean anyone taking this thread seriously is jsut insane. Of course he is lying, Spkr4 is known as one of Master Tankers! OF THE QQ.... 6000+ Armor destroyed buy a single FG shot please..not even WITHOUT damage resistance... HAHAHA Pics or didnt happen. I'm with you and many many tanker QQ a lot and for nothing. But i one shotted a maddy with the Proto Breach+2 DMG and weak spot. But there are so many variable to take in account that is improbable. ...and may the FORGE be with you.
Bendtner92 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1251	Posted - 2013.11.08 22:44:00 - [18] - Quote Keri Starlight wrote: I'm aiming a Forge Gun at my damn tank right now as I'm typing and it says 110%. Get your facts straight. No offence, but it's not that hard. Yeah now you're just lying. Aiming at a tank with shields says 90% damage and 168% damage in weakspot. Winner of the EU Squad Cup & the closed beta Tester's Tournament. Go Go Power Rangers!
Keri Starlight 0uter.Heaven Proficiency V. 1883	Posted - 2013.11.08 22:46:00 - [19] - Quote Jastad wrote: Knight Soiaire wrote: I've heard that you can hop while charging, but I dont have a Breach so I wouldn't know. Breach are pretty deadly, they can OHK any DS, and because of draw distance, chances are you wont be able to see them. And two synchronized Breach shots can insta-pop any tank, or leave him weak enough for AV nades to finish the job. Ok but the Breach is working as intended. VERY VERY BIG ALPHA, very very low dps. I one shotted a Maddy to with it, but hey, he was standing in the open melting infantry and not moving. i took my time to flank, get on his/her back, charge for 6 second and shoot him. Real tanker that do this kind of noob play? 1% Well, why should I move in first place if nothing is hitting me and I can melt infantry from where I am? Anyway, I wouldn't know what to say about it, since I've never been killed by a Breach. Everytime it's the damn Ishukone thing... -Caldari Achura - One with the Universe -Tac AR Specialist "I load my gun with love instead of bullets"
Keri Starlight 0uter.Heaven Proficiency V. 1883	Posted - 2013.11.08 22:53:00 - [20] - Quote Bendtner92 wrote: Keri Starlight wrote: I'm aiming a Forge Gun at my damn tank right now as I'm typing and it says 110%. Get your facts straight. No offence, but it's not that hard. Yeah now you're just lying. Aiming at a tank with shields says 90% damage and 168% damage in weakspot. Oh, am I? Ask any decent tanker, then. Or try getting shot by a Forge Gun in a Caldari vehicle. If you don't believe me than I've nothing more to say. Believe anything you want to believe in. -Caldari Achura - One with the Universe -Tac AR Specialist "I load my gun with love instead of bullets"

Jastad D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 186	Posted - 2013.11.08 22:55:00 - [21] - Quote Keri Starlight wrote: Well, why should I move in first place if nothing is hitting me and I can melt infantry from where I am? Because you are painting on yourself a HUGE target with KILL ME PLS in it. ...and may the FORGE be with you.
Bendtner92 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1253	Posted - 2013.11.08 22:56:00 - [22] - Quote Keri Starlight wrote: Oh, am I? Ask any decent tanker, then. Or try getting shot by a Forge Gun in a Caldari vehicle. If you don't believe me than I've nothing more to say. Believe anything you want to believe in. As already mentioned by someone else, it feels like the FG is doing more damage to shields because Gunnlogis have less shields than Madrugars have armor. Go aim a tank with shields right now, because you certainly didn't before when you said so. And you call yourself a tanker when you don't know the damage profile of AV weapons? Just for the record you even made me load up the game to aim at a tank with shields and it said 90% damage and 168% damage in weakspot. Also aiming at an installation said 90% damage to shields. Winner of the EU Squad Cup & the closed beta Tester's Tournament. Go Go Power Rangers!
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1209	Posted - 2013.11.08 22:57:00 - [23] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: Decided to hit my tank in the weak spot with a Wiyrkomi breach forge gun (proficiency 3), low shield and no modules running. Result? My tank was insta-popped by my forge. And this with 6753 armor. With a forge gun, that's better against shield. . Lies I had corpmates watching it. If they bothered with the forums, they'd verify it. Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me, such is the motto of the anti vehicle infantry.
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1209	Posted - 2013.11.08 22:59:00 - [24] - Quote Bendtner92 wrote: 1. As already mentioned, FGs are 90/110% damage. 2. Fully maxed Breach FG with two damage mods does what, 4.3k damage? Of course it will one-shot your tank in your weakspot if you're low on shields with no resistance. 3. Don't expose your weakspots. 4. Don't get caught with mods on cooldown. 5. Who the **** cares when there's major vehicle rebalancing coming in 1.7? Did you not read my post in its entirety? I tested it in a PC on the weak spot. Tank went boom. See above. See original post. Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me, such is the motto of the anti vehicle infantry.
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1209	Posted - 2013.11.08 23:00:00 - [25] - Quote Jastad wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: Decided to hit my tank in the weak spot with a Wiyrkomi breach forge gun (proficiency 3), low shield and no modules running. Result? My tank was insta-popped by my forge. And this with 6753 armor. With a forge gun, that's better against shield. Next time infantry complains that AV is hard to use, remember the immense power you hold in your hands. Then remember that, quite literally tankers are usually more intelligent than you, which is why so many seem to have trouble destroying us. Then again, a lot of you want vehicles removed entirely, so you're already biased. Cmon Spkr4 i had play vs you in PC and know that you are a good tanker, so i think this is a TROLL THREAD. If you get it in your weak spot by my " OMFG6SECCHARGEandCANTMOVEWHILECHARGIN" Breach the blame is for the tanker. ALWAYS. Another one that didn't read my whole post at all. Read it again. Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me, such is the motto of the anti vehicle infantry.
Bendtner92 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1253	Posted - 2013.11.08 23:01:00 - [26] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: Did you not read my post in its entirety? I tested it in a PC on the weak spot. Tank went boom. See above. See original post. Read MY post again. I said of course it one-shots you in the weakspot if you have no shields or mods active. Get good and don't get caught in that situation. I also said all of this is moot because there's major vehicle rebalancing coming in 1.7. Winner of the EU Squad Cup & the closed beta Tester's Tournament. Go Go Power Rangers!
Jastad D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 186	Posted - 2013.11.08 23:03:00 - [27] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: I tested it in a PC on the weak spot. Tank went boom. See above. See original post. Ok but you know that what you do is practically impossibile. i made it once, but only one time. so in theory is possibile. Practically is possibile only if the tanker is a REALLY BAD tanker ...and may the FORGE be with you.
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1209	Posted - 2013.11.08 23:03:00 - [28] - Quote Bendtner92 wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: Did you not read my post in its entirety? I tested it in a PC on the weak spot. Tank went boom. See above. See original post. Read MY post again. I said of course it one-shots you in the weakspot if you have no shields or mods active. Get good and don't get caught in that situation. I also said all of this is moot because there's major vehicle rebalancing coming in 1.7. Did I say I got caught in a weak spot? I said MY own tank, with MY own forge. Completely controlled test setting. Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me, such is the motto of the anti vehicle infantry.
Jastad D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 186	Posted - 2013.11.08 23:05:00 - [29] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: [quote=Jastad][quote=Spkr4theDead] Another one that didn't read my whole post at all. Read it again. I read it and it make no sense, since you are complaining for something that can't happen in real battle. ...and may the FORGE be with you.
Jastad D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 186	Posted - 2013.11.08 23:07:00 - [30] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: Decided to hit my tank in the weak spot with a Wiyrkomi breach forge gun (proficiency 3), low shield and no modules running. Result? My tank was insta-popped by my forge.. ...and may the FORGE be with you.

Soldiersaint Deepspace Digital 566	Posted - 2013.11.08 23:09:00 - [31] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: Decided to hit my tank in the weak spot with a Wiyrkomi breach forge gun (proficiency 3), low shield and no modules running. Result? My tank was insta-popped by my forge. And this with 6753 armor. With a forge gun, that's better against shield. Next time infantry complains that AV is hard to use, remember the immense power you hold in your hands. Then remember that, quite literally tankers are usually more intelligent than you, which is why so many seem to have trouble destroying us. Then again, a lot of you want vehicles removed entirely, so you're already biased. Some tankers can outsmart me sniff that is true. But the question is.....can you outsmart swarm launcher .
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 757	Posted - 2013.11.08 23:25:00 - [32] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: Decided to hit my tank in the weak spot with a Wiyrkomi breach forge gun (proficiency 3), low shield and no modules running. Result? My tank was insta-popped by my forge. And this with 6753 armor. With a forge gun, that's better against shield. Next time infantry complains that AV is hard to use, remember the immense power you hold in your hands. Then remember that, quite literally tankers are usually more intelligent than you, which is why so many seem to have trouble destroying us. Then again, a lot of you want vehicles removed entirely, so you're already biased. LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL Dude you have absolutely no idea of what your talking about. A Forge Gun does more damge to armor than shields You said you hit the weak spot with a PRO Breach forge gun and prof 3. If you hit the weak spot on anything it will do tons of damage, that is reasonable. The breach variant is super strong and is designed to be, with the trade off being immobilized when charging and firing. You also said that you had no modules on it. But you have prof 3, which is the equivalent of a complex damage mod (by a 1% difference). And since forge guns were designed to be effective against armor they would be.... EFFECTIVE AGAINST ARMOR! What you just said is like me saying "I just knocked out superman with super concentrated kriptonite that is as big as a suitcase and is labeled "superman killer" And I love how you said AV is biased when you just said that you are smarter than us in every way and that is why there is any difficulty in destroying you. Basically you just said, I'm not hard to kill you just need to "get good scrub". (Reminds you of the CoD AR514 scrubs doesn't it?) Please post a time when I said that I wan't vehicles removed from the game, if that was my end goal then I would have never skilled into them in the first place. There there Mr. Scout and Ms. Heavy, don't cry You'll still be useful in my eyes
Eurydice Itzhak Militaires Sans Jeux 236	Posted - 2013.11.08 23:25:00 - [33] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: Decided to hit my tank in the weak spot with a Wiyrkomi breach forge gun (proficiency 3), low shield and no modules running. Result? My tank was insta-popped by my forge. And this with 6753 armor. With a forge gun, that's better against shield. Next time infantry complains that AV is hard to use, remember the immense power you hold in your hands. Then remember that, quite literally tankers are usually more intelligent than you, which is why so many seem to have trouble destroying us. Then again, a lot of you want vehicles removed entirely, so you're already biased. I lose a tank everytime I find you in a match. This last time I popped your corp mates tank and started running away... But low and behold, who was nearby? Boom. Breach forge gun. Stop this madness.
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 757	Posted - 2013.11.08 23:26:00 - [34] - Quote Jastad wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: Decided to hit my tank in the weak spot with a Wiyrkomi breach forge gun (proficiency 3), low shield and no modules running. Result? My tank was insta-popped by my forge.. There there Mr. Scout and Ms. Heavy, don't cry You'll still be useful in my eyes
Tebu Gan Dem Durrty Boyz Public Disorder. 192	Posted - 2013.11.08 23:31:00 - [35] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: Jastad wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: Decided to hit my tank in the weak spot with a Wiyrkomi breach forge gun (proficiency 3), low shield and no modules running. Result? My tank was insta-popped by my forge. And this with 6753 armor. With a forge gun, that's better against shield. Next time infantry complains that AV is hard to use, remember the immense power you hold in your hands. Then remember that, quite literally tankers are usually more intelligent than you, which is why so many seem to have trouble destroying us. Then again, a lot of you want vehicles removed entirely, so you're already biased. Cmon Spkr4 i had play vs you in PC and know that you are a good tanker, so i think this is a TROLL THREAD. If you get it in your weak spot by my " OMFG6SECCHARGEandCANTMOVEWHILECHARGIN" Breach the blame is for the tanker. ALWAYS. Another one that didn't read my whole post at all. Read it again. You will be doing this all day, they never read it fully. (even myself is at fault there lol) Nuff Said
Delta 749 Kestrel Reconnaissance 2318	Posted - 2013.11.08 23:32:00 - [36] - Quote Knight Soiaire wrote: THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote: More intelligent? Red star? Thats a good one. BTW fg's do more damage to armor. ******. Hybrid weapons were changed to do 110% armor 90% shield. Right now the only weapons to do shield damage are laser based weapons, none of which are AV. Shield vehicles now resist all AV weapons, besides flux grenades. Hybrid weapons were never changed. Gallente do - +10% Shield, -10% Armour. Caldari do - +10% Armour, - 10% Shield. At least, thats how I think its always been, I could be wrong though. The sniper rifle at the very least was changed, it used to have different percentages I want to say it was even damage to shields and armor but I think thats also wrong Im not drunk, the planet just happens to be especially wobbly today.
Godin Thekiller Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 1461	Posted - 2013.11.08 23:34:00 - [37] - Quote THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote: More intelligent? Red star? Thats a good one. BTW fg's do more damage to armor. ******. Hybrid weapons were changed to do 110% armor 90% shield. Right now the only weapons to do shield damage are laser based weapons, none of which are AV. Shield vehicles now resist all AV weapons, besides flux grenades. incorrect. Hybrid weapons were split into 2 catgories: Plasme based and rail based. Plasma based weapons do 110% shield 90% armor, and rails do 110% armor 90% shield. Rest is right. 'lights cigar' fuck with me, and I'll melt your face off. Gallente forever!
Godin Thekiller Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 1461	Posted - 2013.11.08 23:36:00 - [38] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: people please. I mean anyone taking this thread seriously is jsut insane. Of course he is lying, Spkr4 is known as one of Master Tankers! OF THE QQ.... 6000+ Armor destroyed buy a single FG shot please..not even WITHOUT damage resistance... HAHAHA Pics or didnt happen. He said he wasn't in it, so I believe him. 'lights cigar' fuck with me, and I'll melt your face off. Gallente forever!
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 757	Posted - 2013.11.08 23:38:00 - [39] - Quote Godin Thekiller wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: people please. I mean anyone taking this thread seriously is jsut insane. Of course he is lying, Spkr4 is known as one of Master Tankers! OF THE QQ.... 6000+ Armor destroyed buy a single FG shot please..not even WITHOUT damage resistance... HAHAHA Pics or didnt happen. He said he wasn't in it, so I believe him. Yet it took a video and your own eyes for you to believe that I'm a tanker. BIAS ALERT. There there Mr. Scout and Ms. Heavy, don't cry You'll still be useful in my eyes
Zero Harpuia Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 1122	Posted - 2013.11.09 04:48:00 - [40] - Quote So you parked a tank, had someone capture it, had someone else lower the shields, then took a weapon that requires about five seconds at full Operations skill to charge, which also doesn't allow movement during said charge, point blank to the weakpoint of a shieldless armor-based HAV, while attempting to lie about the anti-armor bias of Rail-type weapons, with a built-in damage modifier. In shorter terms, you put a Sniper Rifle to a still man's head and said Headshotting was easy. You used a Plasma cannon on a flipped Militia LAV. You fired a Mass Driver at a revved up HMG. The weapon is very effective at the exact role it was designed to fill. Well done wasting an HAV and your corperation's money to stage a PC battle, but what was the point? Besides your severe pro-HAV bias, I mean? As stated, bringing this up, even if it were an issue, is a moot point due to the re-balancing that will (hopefully) hit in 1.7. In the meantime, nut up and don't cry when you almost literally stick you hindquarters into the air with a kick-me sign taped to the sphincter. Also, that is not how you use the word 'literally.' The way I used it was correct. For your usage in the OP, a better phrase would be 'in my deluded mind,' but I'm sure you already knew that. ECM Equipment

KING CHECKMATE AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS 2320	Posted - 2013.11.09 04:50:00 - [41] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: Decided to hit my tank in the weak spot with a Wiyrkomi breach forge gun (proficiency 3), low shield and no modules running. Result? My tank was insta-popped by my forge. And this with 6753 armor. With a forge gun, that's better against shield. . Lies I had corpmates watching it. If they bothered with the forums, they'd verify it. some kind of glitch then.not possible., or you lying. (nad its not like your corp mates WOULDN'T lie for you bro XD) u+Élop s-¦ -Äll+Én-ç+ö+É
Meeko Fent Xer Cloud Consortium 1467	Posted - 2013.11.09 05:54:00 - [42] - Quote Xender17 wrote: Hybrid does more damage to shields though. Even though they are 'suppose' even for hybrid weaponry. If you use blasters on anything you will see the damage % change. And rail guns, which the forge is, do 90 to shield and 110 to armor For the State! For Caldari FW join Caldari Hierarchy
Koan Zalinto Bobbit's Hangmen 24	Posted - 2013.11.09 06:17:00 - [43] - Quote Chunky Munkey wrote: I guess if I stand at point blank range with a plasma cannon and fire it directly at someone, that means the plasma cannon is fine? I get lotsa kills with my plasma cannon. Seriously, I use it on my scout with an advanced pistol. Its good fun and gives me a good range option if their being dumb just standing there shooting at me. Whats that pretty light flying toward me...better not take a step to the side at all...nope...that would be smart.
Dovallis Martan JenusKoll Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 334	Posted - 2013.11.09 06:51:00 - [44] - Quote Bendtner92 wrote: Keri Starlight wrote: I'm aiming a Forge Gun at my damn tank right now as I'm typing and it says 110%. Get your facts straight. No offence, but it's not that hard. Yeah now you're just lying. Aiming at a tank with shields says 90% damage and 168% damage in weakspot. Which gun are you using? Not all variants have the same strengths. Such as railguns for instance... they claim 90% to shield 110% to armor or something like that, but if you checked a tank's railgun out it has 110% vs shield and 90% vs armor. There may be differences between forges as well. If you can read this, it means you are reading.
medomai grey WarRavens League of Infamy 321	Posted - 2013.11.09 07:40:00 - [45] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: Decided to hit my tank in the weak spot with a Wiyrkomi breach forge gun (proficiency 3), low shield and no modules running. Result? My tank was insta-popped by my forge. And this with 6753 armor. With a forge gun, that's better against shield. Next time infantry complains that AV is hard to use, remember the immense power you hold in your hands. Then remember that, quite literally tankers are usually more intelligent than you, which is why so many seem to have trouble destroying us. Then again, a lot of you want vehicles removed entirely, so you're already biased. So you took the hardest hitting forge gun and fired it at the weak point of an unmanned tank with no modules running... So what exactly did you prove in this test where you neglected to factor in any of the obstacles a heavy wielding a breach forge gun would have needed to overcome in order pull this off? You know a neophyte could easily take out an entire team of proto stompers too if they just stood still and didn't fire back. Well Sparky, good science demands the ability to reproduce the experiment. You'd best go repeat the experiment a couple hundred times just to make sure your findings are solid; at your expense of course. ;P Blatant Dust_514 recruiting in the silliest of places. :P
KING CHECKMATE AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS 2323	Posted - 2013.11.09 08:04:00 - [46] - Quote Godin Thekiller wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: people please. I mean anyone taking this thread seriously is jsut insane. Of course he is lying, Spkr4 is known as one of Master Tankers! OF THE QQ.... 6000+ Armor destroyed buy a single FG shot please..not even WITHOUT damage resistance... HAHAHA Pics or didnt happen. He said he wasn't in it, so I believe him. Why? Does it make a difference if he's in it or not? please enlighten me. And if it DOES, then its not relevant since 99% of the time we are shooting Tanks WITH drivers. To test it i just shot a Maddy with 4000 HP armor and NO shields with my Proto Breach Forge gun,prof 4,2 Cx Damage mods. And guess what? D: OMG he lived! What a coincidence.... >..> u+Élop s-¦ -Äll+Én-ç+ö+É
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1212	Posted - 2013.11.09 17:26:00 - [47] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: Decided to hit my tank in the weak spot with a Wiyrkomi breach forge gun (proficiency 3), low shield and no modules running. Result? My tank was insta-popped by my forge. And this with 6753 armor. With a forge gun, that's better against shield. . Lies I had corpmates watching it. If they bothered with the forums, they'd verify it. some kind of glitch then.not possible., or you lying. (nad its not like your corp mates WOULDN'T lie for you bro XD) Why do you not believe it's possible to one-shot a Madrugar in the weak spot with a Wiyrkomi breach? Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me, such is the motto of the anti vehicle infantry.
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1212	Posted - 2013.11.09 17:28:00 - [48] - Quote Atiim wrote: Godin Thekiller wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: people please. I mean anyone taking this thread seriously is jsut insane. Of course he is lying, Spkr4 is known as one of Master Tankers! OF THE QQ.... 6000+ Armor destroyed buy a single FG shot please..not even WITHOUT damage resistance... HAHAHA Pics or didnt happen. He said he wasn't in it, so I believe him. Yet it took a video and your own eyes for you to believe that I'm a tanker. BIAS ALERT. Because you're on one of the most epic crusades against tanks. That's like telling people to mutilate themselves if they don't like how something looks. I mean for christ's sake, you got blown up by a small MLT missile turret and it's on video. Your opinion doesn't matter to anybody. Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me, such is the motto of the anti vehicle infantry.
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 782	Posted - 2013.11.09 17:30:00 - [49] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: Why do you not believe it's possible to one-shot a Madrugar in the weak spot with a Wiyrkomi breach? Because it is not possible. There there Mr. Scout and Ms. Heavy, don't cry You'll still be useful in my eyes
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1212	Posted - 2013.11.09 17:32:00 - [50] - Quote Soldiersaint wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: Decided to hit my tank in the weak spot with a Wiyrkomi breach forge gun (proficiency 3), low shield and no modules running. Result? My tank was insta-popped by my forge. And this with 6753 armor. With a forge gun, that's better against shield. Next time infantry complains that AV is hard to use, remember the immense power you hold in your hands. Then remember that, quite literally tankers are usually more intelligent than you, which is why so many seem to have trouble destroying us. Then again, a lot of you want vehicles removed entirely, so you're already biased. Some tankers can outsmart me sniff that is true. But the question is.....can you outsmart swarm launcher . The game does the aiming for you. Beat it, kid. Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me, such is the motto of the anti vehicle infantry.

Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1212	Posted - 2013.11.09 17:33:00 - [51] - Quote Atiim wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: Decided to hit my tank in the weak spot with a Wiyrkomi breach forge gun (proficiency 3), low shield and no modules running. Result? My tank was insta-popped by my forge. And this with 6753 armor. With a forge gun, that's better against shield. Next time infantry complains that AV is hard to use, remember the immense power you hold in your hands. Then remember that, quite literally tankers are usually more intelligent than you, which is why so many seem to have trouble destroying us. Then again, a lot of you want vehicles removed entirely, so you're already biased. LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL Dude you have absolutely no idea of what your talking about. A Forge Gun does more damge to armor than shields You said you hit the weak spot with a PRO Breach forge gun and prof 3. If you hit the weak spot on anything it will do tons of damage, that is reasonable. The breach variant is super strong and is designed to be, with the trade off being immobilized when charging and firing. You also said that you had no modules on it. But you have prof 3, which is the equivalent of a complex damage mod (by a 1% difference). And since forge guns were designed to be effective against armor they would be.... EFFECTIVE AGAINST ARMOR! What you just said is like me saying "I just knocked out superman with super concentrated kriptonite that is as big as a suitcase and is labeled "superman killer" totally OP dude" And I love how you said AV is biased when you just said that you are smarter than us in every way and that is why there is any difficulty in destroying you. Basically you just said, I'm not hard to kill you just need to "get good scrub". (Reminds you of the CoD AR514 scrubs doesn't it?) Please post a time when I said that I wan't vehicles removed from the game, if that was my end goal then I would have never skilled into them in the first place. Your words are basically the same as you asking for them to be removed because they're too hard for you to destroy. Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me, such is the motto of the anti vehicle infantry.
low genius The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance 846	Posted - 2013.11.09 17:35:00 - [52] - Quote Kane Fyea wrote: Actually the forge gun does more damage vs armor not shields. first post. ouch.
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1212	Posted - 2013.11.09 17:38:00 - [53] - Quote Zero Harpuia wrote: So you parked a tank, had someone capture it, had someone else lower the shields, then took a weapon that requires about five seconds at full Operations skill to charge, which also doesn't allow movement during said charge, point blank to the weakpoint of a shieldless armor-based HAV, while attempting to lie about the anti-armor bias of Rail-type weapons, with a built-in damage modifier. In shorter terms, you put a Sniper Rifle to a still man's head and said Headshotting was easy. You used a Plasma cannon on a flipped Militia LAV. You fired a Mass Driver at a revved up HMG. The weapon is very effective at the exact role it was designed to fill. Well done wasting an HAV and your corperation's money to stage a PC battle, but what was the point? Besides your severe pro-HAV bias, I mean? As stated, bringing this up, even if it were an issue, is a moot point due to the re-balancing that will (hopefully) hit in 1.7. In the meantime, nut up and don't cry when you almost literally stick you hindquarters into the air with a kick-me sign taped to the sphincter. Also, that is not how you use the word 'literally.' The way I used it was correct. For your usage in the OP, a better phrase would be 'in my deluded mind,' but I'm sure you already knew that. I did it to see the damage potential for myself, then posted about it on here. I told AV that a forge is totally devastating in any situation, but I did it with controlled settings to see just how devastating a forge can be. Basically, I'm not the one that needs to shut up since it seems anyone going AV just isn't good enough to destroy tanks, which is why they're always complaining. Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me, such is the motto of the anti vehicle infantry.
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1213	Posted - 2013.11.09 17:39:00 - [54] - Quote medomai grey wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: Decided to hit my tank in the weak spot with a Wiyrkomi breach forge gun (proficiency 3), low shield and no modules running. Result? My tank was insta-popped by my forge. And this with 6753 armor. With a forge gun, that's better against shield. Next time infantry complains that AV is hard to use, remember the immense power you hold in your hands. Then remember that, quite literally tankers are usually more intelligent than you, which is why so many seem to have trouble destroying us. Then again, a lot of you want vehicles removed entirely, so you're already biased. So you took the hardest hitting forge gun and fired it at the weak point of an unmanned tank with no modules running... So what exactly did you prove in this test where you neglected to factor in any of the obstacles a heavy wielding a breach forge gun would have needed to overcome in order pull this off? You know a neophyte could easily take out an entire team of proto stompers too if they just stood still and didn't fire back. Well Sparky, good science demands the ability to reproduce the experiment. You'd best go repeat the experiment a couple hundred times just to make sure your findings are solid; at your expense of course. ;P I'm not going to bother with much of a reply to this, because there's an anti-tanker on here saying that it's not possible for a forge gun to one-shot a tank. Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me, such is the motto of the anti vehicle infantry.
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1213	Posted - 2013.11.09 17:40:00 - [55] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Godin Thekiller wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: people please. I mean anyone taking this thread seriously is jsut insane. Of course he is lying, Spkr4 is known as one of Master Tankers! OF THE QQ.... 6000+ Armor destroyed buy a single FG shot please..not even WITHOUT damage resistance... HAHAHA Pics or didnt happen. He said he wasn't in it, so I believe him. Why? Does it make a difference if he's in it or not? please enlighten me. And if it DOES, then its not relevant since 99% of the time we are shooting Tanks WITH drivers. To test it i just shot a Maddy with 4000 HP armor and NO shields with my Proto Breach Forge gun,prof 4,2 Cx Damage mods. And guess what? D: OMG he lived! What a coincidence.... >..> Had modules running, possibly also a repper going as well. You're just bad at everything. shrugs Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me, such is the motto of the anti vehicle infantry.
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1213	Posted - 2013.11.09 17:41:00 - [56] - Quote low genius wrote: Kane Fyea wrote: Actually the forge gun does more damage vs armor not shields. first post. ouch. I'm forgetful and don't know where to search that kind of information. Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me, such is the motto of the anti vehicle infantry.
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1213	Posted - 2013.11.09 17:42:00 - [57] - Quote Atiim wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: Why do you not believe it's possible to one-shot a Madrugar in the weak spot with a Wiyrkomi breach? Because it is not possible. Why do you believe it's not possible? Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me, such is the motto of the anti vehicle infantry.
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 782	Posted - 2013.11.09 17:44:00 - [58] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: Atiim wrote: Godin Thekiller wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: people please. I mean anyone taking this thread seriously is jsut insane. Of course he is lying, Spkr4 is known as one of Master Tankers! OF THE QQ.... 6000+ Armor destroyed buy a single FG shot please..not even WITHOUT damage resistance... HAHAHA Pics or didnt happen. He said he wasn't in it, so I believe him. Yet it took a video and your own eyes for you to believe that I'm a tanker. BIAS ALERT. Because you're on one of the most epic crusades against tanks. That's like telling people to mutilate themselves if they don't like how something looks. I mean for christ's sake, you got blown up by a small MLT missile turret and it's on video. Your opinion doesn't matter to anybody. First off to clarify, the blasters were not MLT. And with the speed of my Madrugar and the fact that the incubus was inflicting damage constantly meant that the tank was going to die sooner or later. That's why I tried to abandon ship (or tank i guess) I am not on a crusade against tanks. I'm on a crusade against creating what is quite possibly the worst nightmare this game will ever have. Think about it. People cried about no Aim Assist: We got super aim bots to do the work for us People cried about hit detection: No we've got COD level TTKs People cried about Flaylock Pistols: Now the Core is the only one viable And now guess what? You think PRO AV is bad right now? Wait until everyone realizes that if you aren't AV or a Tanker you will get stomped. What happens when everyone has PRO AV. What happens when they see that RDV and you have 16 people lined up with IAFGs waiting for you? Even with a 33% damage reduction no tanker would ever be able to survive an entire team firing at him with PRO AV simultaneously. Do you honestly want everyone and thier grandmother to have PRO AV? That' what's gonna happen. People are gonna get sick of being stomped so they will either use AV or Tanks. And we know how big of an SP sink tanks have, so I'm gonna go with the "Wirykomi 514" theory. There there Mr. Scout and Ms. Heavy, don't cry You'll still be useful in my eyes
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 782	Posted - 2013.11.09 17:45:00 - [59] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: Atiim wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: Why do you not believe it's possible to one-shot a Madrugar in the weak spot with a Wiyrkomi breach? Because it is not possible. Why do you believe it's not possible? Because I've watched my brother attempt the exact same thing. There there Mr. Scout and Ms. Heavy, don't cry You'll still be useful in my eyes
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 782	Posted - 2013.11.09 17:51:00 - [60] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: Your words are basically the same as you asking for them to be removed because they're too hard for you to destroy. Please, I've never said nor implied that I want vehicles completely removed from the game. And you can't supply any evidence towards the contrary. There there Mr. Scout and Ms. Heavy, don't cry You'll still be useful in my eyes

ER-Bullitt 582	Posted - 2013.11.09 17:52:00 - [61] - Quote 110% to armor lol
pegasis prime BIG BAD W0LVES 1255	Posted - 2013.11.09 17:55:00 - [62] - Quote Atiim wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: Atiim wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: Why do you not believe it's possible to one-shot a Madrugar in the weak spot with a Wiyrkomi breach? Because it is not possible. Why do you believe it's not possible? Because I've watched my brother attempt the exact same thing. dude iv one shotted many maddys and gunlogis with the proto breech the adv breech leaves most vehicles on fire after one punch it is totally possible to one shot a maddy at full hp on cooldown if it has all its mods active then it normally only takes 2 shots the trick with the breech variants is to work in tandem with assault variants to finish the deal. Its gone from suck .....to blow level 1 forum warrior
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 782	Posted - 2013.11.09 18:03:00 - [63] - Quote pegasis prime wrote: Atiim wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: Atiim wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: Why do you not believe it's possible to one-shot a Madrugar in the weak spot with a Wiyrkomi breach? Because it is not possible. Why do you believe it's not possible? Because I've watched my brother attempt the exact same thing. dude iv one shotted many maddys and gunlogis with the proto breech the adv breech leaves most vehicles on fire after one punch it is totally possible to one shot a maddy at full hp on cooldown if it has all its mods active then it normally only takes 2 shots the trick with the breech variants is to work in tandem with assault variants to finish the deal. If his mods are all on cooldown and he is weak and exposed, then yeah it should be easy to finish him off. And as King Checkmate said, "Pics or it didn't happen" There there Mr. Scout and Ms. Heavy, don't cry You'll still be useful in my eyes
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1214	Posted - 2013.11.09 18:26:00 - [64] - Quote pegasis prime wrote: Atiim wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: Atiim wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: Why do you not believe it's possible to one-shot a Madrugar in the weak spot with a Wiyrkomi breach? Because it is not possible. Why do you believe it's not possible? Because I've watched my brother attempt the exact same thing. dude iv one shotted many maddys and gunlogis with the proto breech the adv breech leaves most vehicles on fire after one punch it is totally possible to one shot a maddy at full hp on cooldown if it has all its mods active then it normally only takes 2 shots the trick with the breech variants is to work in tandem with assault variants to finish the deal. Are you actually telling infantry they should use teamwork to take down a tank? Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me, such is the motto of the anti vehicle infantry.
KING CHECKMATE AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS 2332	Posted - 2013.11.09 22:54:00 - [65] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: Had modules running, possibly also a repper going as well. You're just bad at everything. shrugs Yup, might be it, then again you have never played me so.... Again, Spkr4theDead, just assuming stuff wont cut it, evidence or nothing.... u+Élop s-¦ -Äll+Én-ç+ö+É
General John Ripper Rippers Taco Shack 39818	Posted - 2013.11.09 23:29:00 - [66] - Quote Kane Fyea wrote: Actually the forge gun does more damage vs armor not shields. truth Please don't Tacos Approved
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1214	Posted - 2013.11.10 04:45:00 - [67] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: Had modules running, possibly also a repper going as well. You're just bad at everything. shrugs Yup, might be it, then again you have never played me so.... Again, Spkr4theDead, just assuming stuff wont cut it, evidence or nothing.... Or saying something YOU know is Highly probable and using is as a Hard Fact to QQ vs AV weaponry. ITs getting a balance, chill ... I love because you haven't done something, means it's not possible. Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me, such is the motto of the anti vehicle infantry.
KING CHECKMATE AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS 2359	Posted - 2013.11.10 04:48:00 - [68] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: Had modules running, possibly also a repper going as well. You're just bad at everything. shrugs Yup, might be it, then again you have never played me so.... Again, Spkr4theDead, just assuming stuff wont cut it, evidence or nothing.... Or saying something YOU know is Highly probable and using is as a Hard Fact to QQ vs AV weaponry. ITs getting a balance, chill ... I love because you haven't done something, means it's not possible. Yup because Using a PROTO BREACH FORGE GUN that wont let you MOVE, ''find'' a TANK , hit his WEAKSPOT while there is NO driver and NO modules Running seems like a VERY possible scenario dude. The Best Damage Mod, its a Headshot....
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1215	Posted - 2013.11.10 05:40:00 - [69] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: Had modules running, possibly also a repper going as well. You're just bad at everything. shrugs Yup, might be it, then again you have never played me so.... Again, Spkr4theDead, just assuming stuff wont cut it, evidence or nothing.... Or saying something YOU know is Highly probable and using is as a Hard Fact to QQ vs AV weaponry. ITs getting a balance, chill ... I love because you haven't done something, means it's not possible. Yup because Using a PROTO BREACH FORGE GUN that wont let you MOVE, ''find'' a TANK while not getting owned by infantry while at it , hit his WEAKSPOT while he has no shields and while there is NO driver and NO modules Running seems like a VERY possible scenario dude. How many times do I have to say that it was MY tank that I shot? Are you blind? I said the test was COMPLETELY CONTROLLED. Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me, such is the motto of the anti vehicle infantry.


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