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Spkr4theDead
Red Star. EoN.
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Posted - 2013.11.08 22:09:00 -
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Decided to hit my tank in the weak spot with a Wiyrkomi breach forge gun (proficiency 3), low shield and no modules running. Result? My tank was insta-popped by my forge.
And this with 6753 armor. With a forge gun, that's better against shield.
Next time infantry complains that AV is hard to use, remember the immense power you hold in your hands. Then remember that, quite literally tankers are usually more intelligent than you, which is why so many seem to have trouble destroying us. Then again, a lot of you want vehicles removed entirely, so you're already biased.
Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me, such is the motto of the anti vehicle infantry.
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Kane Fyea
DUST University Ivy League
2166
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Posted - 2013.11.08 22:12:00 -
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Actually the forge gun does more damage vs armor not shields. |
THEAMAZING POTHEAD
Nyain San Proficiency V.
530
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Posted - 2013.11.08 22:15:00 -
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More intelligent? Red star? Thats a good one. BTW fg's do more damage to armor. ******. Hybrid weapons were changed to do 110% armor 90% shield. Right now the only weapons to do shield damage are laser based weapons, none of which are AV. Shield vehicles now resist all AV weapons, besides flux grenades. |
KING CHECKMATE
AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS
2308
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Posted - 2013.11.08 22:15:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:Decided to hit my tank in the weak spot with a Wiyrkomi breach forge gun (proficiency 3), low shield and no modules running. Result? My tank was insta-popped by my forge.
And this with 6753 armor. With a forge gun, that's better against shield.
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Knight Soiaire
R 0 N 1 N
3141
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Posted - 2013.11.08 22:17:00 -
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THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote:More intelligent? Red star? Thats a good one. BTW fg's do more damage to armor. ******. Hybrid weapons were changed to do 110% armor 90% shield. Right now the only weapons to do shield damage are laser based weapons, none of which are AV. Shield vehicles now resist all AV weapons, besides flux grenades.
Hybrid weapons were never changed.
Gallente do - +10% Shield, -10% Armour.
Caldari do - +10% Armour, - 10% Shield.
At least, thats how I think its always been, I could be wrong though.
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Bendtner92
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1250
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Posted - 2013.11.08 22:24:00 -
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1. As already mentioned, FGs are 90/110% damage.
2. Fully maxed Breach FG with two damage mods does what, 4.3k damage? Of course it will one-shot your tank in your weakspot if you're low on shields with no resistance.
3. Don't expose your weakspots.
4. Don't get caught with mods on cooldown.
5. Who the **** cares when there's major vehicle rebalancing coming in 1.7?
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Xender17
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
899
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Posted - 2013.11.08 22:26:00 -
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Hybrid does more damage to shields though. Even though they are 'suppose' even for hybrid weaponry.
If you use blasters on anything you will see the damage % change.
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Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
2036
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Posted - 2013.11.08 22:27:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:Decided to hit my tank in the weak spot with a Wiyrkomi breach forge gun (proficiency 3), low shield and no modules running. Result? My tank was insta-popped by my forge.
And this with 6753 armor. With a forge gun, that's better against shield.
Next time infantry complains that AV is hard to use, remember the immense power you hold in your hands. Then remember that, quite literally tankers are usually more intelligent than you, which is why so many seem to have trouble destroying us. Then again, a lot of you want vehicles removed entirely, so you're already biased.
I guess if I stand at point blank range with a plasma cannon and fire it directly at someone, that means the plasma cannon is fine?
No.
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Keri Starlight
0uter.Heaven Proficiency V.
1882
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Posted - 2013.11.08 22:29:00 -
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Kane Fyea wrote:Actually the forge gun does more damage vs armor not shields.
lol no, the Forge Gun, also known as "The bane of the Gunnlogi", does more damage to shields.
Sources: My poor Gunnlogi
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-Tac AR Specialist
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Bendtner92
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1251
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Posted - 2013.11.08 22:32:00 -
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Keri Starlight wrote:Kane Fyea wrote:Actually the forge gun does more damage vs armor not shields. lol no, the Forge Gun, also known as "The bane of the Gunnlogi", does more damage to shields. Sources: My poor Gunnlogi You and everyone else stating this, please get your facts straight on this matter. No offense, but it's not that hard.
http://dust514.com/news/blog/2013/07/weapon-ranges-in-uprising-1.2-and-beyond/
Devblog wrote:Forge Gun = Railgun Hybrid, 90% damage to shields and 110% damage to armor
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Jastad
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
185
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Posted - 2013.11.08 22:33:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:Decided to hit my tank in the weak spot with a Wiyrkomi breach forge gun (proficiency 3), low shield and no modules running. Result? My tank was insta-popped by my forge.
And this with 6753 armor. With a forge gun, that's better against shield.
Next time infantry complains that AV is hard to use, remember the immense power you hold in your hands. Then remember that, quite literally tankers are usually more intelligent than you, which is why so many seem to have trouble destroying us. Then again, a lot of you want vehicles removed entirely, so you're already biased.
Cmon Spkr4 i had play vs you in PC and know that you are a good tanker, so i think this is a TROLL THREAD.
If you get it in your weak spot by my " OMFG6SECCHARGEandCANTMOVEWHILECHARGIN" Breach the blame is for the tanker. ALWAYS.
...and may the FORGE be with you.
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Jastad
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
185
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Posted - 2013.11.08 22:35:00 -
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Keri Starlight wrote:Kane Fyea wrote:Actually the forge gun does more damage vs armor not shields. lol no, the Forge Gun, also known as "The bane of the Gunnlogi", does more damage to shields. Sources: My poor Gunnlogi
No the forge is doing more DMG to armor. What kill the Gunnlogi is his low recovery EHP, that can't keep up with the DPS of the Forge.
...and may the FORGE be with you.
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Knight Soiaire
R 0 N 1 N
3142
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Posted - 2013.11.08 22:35:00 -
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Jastad wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:Decided to hit my tank in the weak spot with a Wiyrkomi breach forge gun (proficiency 3), low shield and no modules running. Result? My tank was insta-popped by my forge.
And this with 6753 armor. With a forge gun, that's better against shield.
Next time infantry complains that AV is hard to use, remember the immense power you hold in your hands. Then remember that, quite literally tankers are usually more intelligent than you, which is why so many seem to have trouble destroying us. Then again, a lot of you want vehicles removed entirely, so you're already biased. Cmon Spkr4 i had play vs you in PC and know that you are a good tanker, so i think this is a TROLL THREAD. If you get it in your weak spot by my " OMFG6SECCHARGEandCANTMOVEWHILECHARGIN" Breach the blame is for the tanker. ALWAYS.
I've heard that you can hop while charging, but I dont have a Breach so I wouldn't know.
Breach are pretty deadly, they can OHK any DS, and because of draw distance, chances are you wont be able to see them.
And two synchronized Breach shots can insta-pop any tank, or leave him weak enough for AV nades to finish the job.
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KING CHECKMATE
AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS
2308
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Posted - 2013.11.08 22:36:00 -
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people please. I mean anyone taking this thread seriously is jsut insane. Of course he is lying, Spkr4 is known as one of Master Tankers! OF THE QQ....
6000+ Armor destroyed buy a single FG shot please..not even WITHOUT damage resistance... HAHAHA
Pics or didnt happen.
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Keri Starlight
0uter.Heaven Proficiency V.
1882
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Posted - 2013.11.08 22:36:00 -
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Bendtner92 wrote:Keri Starlight wrote:Kane Fyea wrote:Actually the forge gun does more damage vs armor not shields. lol no, the Forge Gun, also known as "The bane of the Gunnlogi", does more damage to shields. Sources: My poor Gunnlogi You and everyone else stating this, please get your facts straight on this matter. No offense, but it's not that hard. http://dust514.com/news/blog/2013/07/weapon-ranges-in-uprising-1.2-and-beyond/Devblog wrote:Forge Gun = Railgun Hybrid, 90% damage to shields and 110% damage to armor
I'm aiming a Forge Gun at my damn tank right now as I'm typing and it says 110%.
Get your facts straight. No offence, but it's not that hard.
-Caldari Achura - One with the Universe
-Tac AR Specialist
"I load my gun with love instead of bullets"
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Jastad
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
185
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Posted - 2013.11.08 22:40:00 -
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Knight Soiaire wrote: I've heard that you can hop while charging, but I dont have a Breach so I wouldn't know.
Breach are pretty deadly, they can OHK any DS, and because of draw distance, chances are you wont be able to see them.
And two synchronized Breach shots can insta-pop any tank, or leave him weak enough for AV nades to finish the job.
Ok but the Breach is working as intended. VERY VERY BIG ALPHA, very very low dps.
I one shotted a Maddy to with it, but hey, he was standing in the open melting infantry and not moving. i took my time to flank, get on his/her back, charge for 6 second and shoot him.
Real tanker that do this kind of noob play? 1%
...and may the FORGE be with you.
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Jastad
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
185
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Posted - 2013.11.08 22:42:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:people please. I mean anyone taking this thread seriously is jsut insane. Of course he is lying, Spkr4 is known as one of Master Tankers! OF THE QQ....
6000+ Armor destroyed buy a single FG shot please..not even WITHOUT damage resistance... HAHAHA
Pics or didnt happen.
I'm with you and many many tanker QQ a lot and for nothing. But i one shotted a maddy with the Proto Breach+2 DMG and weak spot. But there are so many variable to take in account that is improbable.
...and may the FORGE be with you.
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Bendtner92
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1251
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Posted - 2013.11.08 22:44:00 -
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Keri Starlight wrote:I'm aiming a Forge Gun at my damn tank right now as I'm typing and it says 110%.
Get your facts straight. No offence, but it's not that hard. Yeah now you're just lying.
Aiming at a tank with shields says 90% damage and 168% damage in weakspot.
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Keri Starlight
0uter.Heaven Proficiency V.
1883
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Posted - 2013.11.08 22:46:00 -
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Jastad wrote:Knight Soiaire wrote: I've heard that you can hop while charging, but I dont have a Breach so I wouldn't know.
Breach are pretty deadly, they can OHK any DS, and because of draw distance, chances are you wont be able to see them.
And two synchronized Breach shots can insta-pop any tank, or leave him weak enough for AV nades to finish the job. Ok but the Breach is working as intended. VERY VERY BIG ALPHA, very very low dps. I one shotted a Maddy to with it, but hey, he was standing in the open melting infantry and not moving. i took my time to flank, get on his/her back, charge for 6 second and shoot him. Real tanker that do this kind of noob play? 1%
Well, why should I move in first place if nothing is hitting me and I can melt infantry from where I am?
Anyway, I wouldn't know what to say about it, since I've never been killed by a Breach. Everytime it's the damn Ishukone thing...
-Caldari Achura - One with the Universe
-Tac AR Specialist
"I load my gun with love instead of bullets"
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Keri Starlight
0uter.Heaven Proficiency V.
1883
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Posted - 2013.11.08 22:53:00 -
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Bendtner92 wrote:Keri Starlight wrote:I'm aiming a Forge Gun at my damn tank right now as I'm typing and it says 110%.
Get your facts straight. No offence, but it's not that hard. Yeah now you're just lying. Aiming at a tank with shields says 90% damage and 168% damage in weakspot.
Oh, am I? Ask any decent tanker, then. Or try getting shot by a Forge Gun in a Caldari vehicle. If you don't believe me than I've nothing more to say. Believe anything you want to believe in.
-Caldari Achura - One with the Universe
-Tac AR Specialist
"I load my gun with love instead of bullets"
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Jastad
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
186
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Posted - 2013.11.08 22:55:00 -
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Keri Starlight wrote: Well, why should I move in first place if nothing is hitting me and I can melt infantry from where I am?
Because you are painting on yourself a HUGE target with KILL ME PLS in it.
...and may the FORGE be with you.
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Bendtner92
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1253
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Posted - 2013.11.08 22:56:00 -
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Keri Starlight wrote:Oh, am I? Ask any decent tanker, then. Or try getting shot by a Forge Gun in a Caldari vehicle. If you don't believe me than I've nothing more to say. Believe anything you want to believe in. As already mentioned by someone else, it feels like the FG is doing more damage to shields because Gunnlogis have less shields than Madrugars have armor.
Go aim a tank with shields right now, because you certainly didn't before when you said so. And you call yourself a tanker when you don't know the damage profile of AV weapons?
Just for the record you even made me load up the game to aim at a tank with shields and it said 90% damage and 168% damage in weakspot. Also aiming at an installation said 90% damage to shields.
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Spkr4theDead
Red Star. EoN.
1209
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Posted - 2013.11.08 22:57:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:Decided to hit my tank in the weak spot with a Wiyrkomi breach forge gun (proficiency 3), low shield and no modules running. Result? My tank was insta-popped by my forge.
And this with 6753 armor. With a forge gun, that's better against shield.
. Lies I had corpmates watching it. If they bothered with the forums, they'd verify it.
Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me, such is the motto of the anti vehicle infantry.
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Spkr4theDead
Red Star. EoN.
1209
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Posted - 2013.11.08 22:59:00 -
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Bendtner92 wrote:1. As already mentioned, FGs are 90/110% damage.
2. Fully maxed Breach FG with two damage mods does what, 4.3k damage? Of course it will one-shot your tank in your weakspot if you're low on shields with no resistance.
3. Don't expose your weakspots.
4. Don't get caught with mods on cooldown.
5. Who the **** cares when there's major vehicle rebalancing coming in 1.7? Did you not read my post in its entirety?
I tested it in a PC on the weak spot. Tank went boom.
See above.
See original post.
Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me, such is the motto of the anti vehicle infantry.
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Spkr4theDead
Red Star. EoN.
1209
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Posted - 2013.11.08 23:00:00 -
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Jastad wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:Decided to hit my tank in the weak spot with a Wiyrkomi breach forge gun (proficiency 3), low shield and no modules running. Result? My tank was insta-popped by my forge.
And this with 6753 armor. With a forge gun, that's better against shield.
Next time infantry complains that AV is hard to use, remember the immense power you hold in your hands. Then remember that, quite literally tankers are usually more intelligent than you, which is why so many seem to have trouble destroying us. Then again, a lot of you want vehicles removed entirely, so you're already biased. Cmon Spkr4 i had play vs you in PC and know that you are a good tanker, so i think this is a TROLL THREAD. If you get it in your weak spot by my " OMFG6SECCHARGEandCANTMOVEWHILECHARGIN" Breach the blame is for the tanker. ALWAYS. Another one that didn't read my whole post at all. Read it again.
Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me, such is the motto of the anti vehicle infantry.
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Bendtner92
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1253
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Posted - 2013.11.08 23:01:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:Did you not read my post in its entirety?
I tested it in a PC on the weak spot. Tank went boom.
See above.
See original post. Read MY post again. I said of course it one-shots you in the weakspot if you have no shields or mods active.
Get good and don't get caught in that situation.
I also said all of this is moot because there's major vehicle rebalancing coming in 1.7.
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Jastad
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
186
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Posted - 2013.11.08 23:03:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:
I tested it in a PC on the weak spot. Tank went boom.
See above.
See original post.
Ok but you know that what you do is practically impossibile. i made it once, but only one time.
so in theory is possibile. Practically is possibile only if the tanker is a REALLY BAD tanker
...and may the FORGE be with you.
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Spkr4theDead
Red Star. EoN.
1209
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Posted - 2013.11.08 23:03:00 -
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Bendtner92 wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:Did you not read my post in its entirety?
I tested it in a PC on the weak spot. Tank went boom.
See above.
See original post. Read MY post again. I said of course it one-shots you in the weakspot if you have no shields or mods active. Get good and don't get caught in that situation. I also said all of this is moot because there's major vehicle rebalancing coming in 1.7. Did I say I got caught in a weak spot?
I said MY own tank, with MY own forge. Completely controlled test setting.
Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me, such is the motto of the anti vehicle infantry.
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Jastad
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
186
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Posted - 2013.11.08 23:05:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:[quote=Jastad][quote=Spkr4theDead] Another one that didn't read my whole post at all. Read it again.
I read it and it make no sense, since you are complaining for something that can't happen in real battle.
...and may the FORGE be with you.
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Jastad
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
186
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Posted - 2013.11.08 23:07:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:Decided to hit my tank in the weak spot with a Wiyrkomi breach forge gun (proficiency 3), low shield and no modules running. Result? My tank was insta-popped by my forge..
...and may the FORGE be with you.
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