DUST Search - kb/m and the fail!

Rei Shepard wrote:

TechMechMeds wrote:

Rei Shepard wrote:

TechMechMeds wrote:

I'm better with k/b mouse and I can safely say if we got raw input I'd switch and very quickly become one of the best in the game, like literally top 50 and im not boasting im jyst saying it how it is as would everyone else who excels with k/b and mouse.

CCP should have never put it in the game, if it worked the way we'd like the ds3 would be laughable even with aim assist, Im not going into details of what the advantages would be as anyone who is better with k/b and mouse already knows. The problem is that ccp should never have put it in the game as its not fair on those who came into dust because they could excel with it and then hand them some joke emulator, its not that bad but its also just not good enough and I don't believe theres anyway to make it work.

It would be too sluggish if it had the input of a ds3, too good with raw input and under performs at the mo vs aim assist, this dead horse has been fked for too long, just remove it and stop taking dusts k/b and mouse users on a long drawn out ride on false hope and put them out of their misery.

Truth hurts, that was also painful to type, sorry guys but this issue which I believe is basically impossible to fix has gone on for ages, maybe I'm being too brash with saying it should just be removed but I can't see any realistic fix, if anyone can actually explain how it could be fixed then I'd like to know and I'll support it provided its reasonable and not some nub with an ulterior motive trying to say raw input wouldnt be op.

So your saying, just because DS3 is better right now, you are not using a KBM ? Like we should believe that crap, you are either a KBM player and take pride in your skill with it and keep using it or your not very good with it and just swap between the 2, witchever gives you the most advantage.

Lol, I was completely reasonable and just saying it how it is, assumptions are the sign of a small mind. I'm shocked you of all people can't handle a completely reasonable post like that.

I only replied to the first section, not to the rest, i stopped reading when i read Good KBM users swaps to DS3, i mean like yeah ...right...

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Toyboi The Rainbow Effect 153	Posted - 2013.11.08 16:13:00 - [1] - Quote So after countless frustrations and a bit of rage i desided to say **** it (not the cloths shop) ds3 controller here i come! The reason for this madness is simple the guys at ccp who is responsible for kb/m "conTROLLS" have no clue what they are doing im sorry to say this but it has nothing to do with time or funding! its simply FAIL all over the board, im tempted to say :get gud scrub!! So back to the ds3 i do better with a ds3 then kb/m and thats after only 1 game.. i have been playing dust since september ONLY with kb/m. compared to kb/m the ds3 is SOOO smothh insert butter here (------- i even think that my framerate is better after i unpluged the kb/m. i dont know tho if its just me but the game looks like it runs better with no kb/m pluged in.. CCP you even had a dev blog about how importent the controels of a fps game is ( TROLOL) i must say tho that the ds3 controels are extreamly good credit where credit is due! 8 months since uprising 1.0 and to be honest the kb/m is still.. how to put it..? standing up pissing with a stiff wedding d.ick everything BUT the toilet is wet! To ccp i ask you this are you still comitted to the kb/m? cause the "revamp" in 1.3 is not helping and you "prommised" ads adjustments 2 patches ago, my point is if you use time and recourses on a devblog about aiming but nothing happens its just another stunt to keep players with empty promisses.
M McManus Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 237	Posted - 2013.11.08 16:24:00 - [2] - Quote +1 join the fight brother we have been pushed aside for month on end while the DS3 has been polished with the addition of crutch aim assist.. And yet the kb/m is working off some **** emulation real kb/m players wouldn't even consider this kb/m..
SteelDark Knight 138	Posted - 2013.11.08 16:33:00 - [3] - Quote Sadly, the attempt to find balance between KB/M and DS3 has caused nothing but frustrations for the player base on the whole. Each side complains of competitive balance issues and every time CCP tries to find a way to create this balance or improvements one side is extremely disenfranchised. This is why the majority of developers will not even attempt it. Ultimately, I donGÇÖt see any scenario were balance is achieved and everyone is going to be pleased (or even a majority). I canGÇÖt help but wonder what amount of players this whole fiasco has cost CCP. Where Dust went Wrong.
Bendtner92 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1247	Posted - 2013.11.08 16:37:00 - [4] - Quote SteelDark Knight wrote: Sadly, the attempt to find balance between KB/M and DS3 has caused nothing but frustrations for the player base on the whole. Each side complains of competitive balance issues and every time CCP tries to find a way to create this balance or improvements one side is extremely disenfranchised. This is why the majority of developers will not even attempt it. Ultimately, I donGÇÖt see any scenario were balance is achieved and everyone is going to be pleased (or even a majority). I canGÇÖt help but wonder what amount of players this whole fiasco has cost CCP. Where Dust went Wrong. Yeah, Dust shouldn't have had m/kb support in the first place imo. Of course it can't be removed now because around half the playerbase is likely EVE players and using m/kb. So much for wanting to attract a new audience and then half of a tiny playerbase is EVE players... Winner of the EU Squad Cup & the closed beta Tester's Tournament. Go Go Power Rangers!
Meeko Fent Xer Cloud Consortium 1453	Posted - 2013.11.08 16:39:00 - [5] - Quote Welcome to DUST 514, a CONSOLE game. Feel free to use CONSOLE tools to play. For the State! For Caldari FW join Caldari Hierarchy
bolsh lee Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 639	Posted - 2013.11.08 16:58:00 - [6] - Quote SteelDark Knight wrote: Sadly, the attempt to find balance between KB/M and DS3 has caused nothing but frustrations for the player base on the whole. Each side complains of competitive balance issues and every time CCP tries to find a way to create this balance or improvements one side is extremely disenfranchised. This is why the majority of developers will not even attempt it. Ultimately, I donGÇÖt see any scenario were balance is achieved and everyone is going to be pleased (or even a majority). I canGÇÖt help but wonder what amount of players this whole fiasco has cost CCP. Where Dust went Wrong. I gotta disagree if you played in Chromosome the only complaints were the DS3 felt to sluggish and the mouse could turn 360 x10 faster then DS3 this was mainly due to turn limitation on suits that the mouse could bypass with high DPI.. Since then turn limitations were removed DS3 speed was increased and Aim Assist added to improve the controller sensitivity and CQC, which to this day has been done successfully, hence why you don't hear any DS3 users complaing anymore. . During chromosome the mouse was flawless it was damn near raw input..We had very little complaints of OP kb/m besides the suit turn speed bug.. With that in mind, I dont think anyone was really sure why Uprising came around and CCP added the mouse emulation crap we have now.. The only player base its hurting or frustrating,( some to the point of not using an alternate input) is the kb/m users.. Aim Assist for DS3 should stay some may say it needs toned down a bit but I personally don't mind it either way being I've had to switch to the DS3 the past couple months. . But.. if DS3 is rocking a aim assist at its peak there should be no reason mouse users shouldn't get raw input back.. Raw input doesn't make every mouse user pro over night just like Aim assist doesn't make a DS3 user pro.. The only way to balance is to put each input to its highest standard it'll seperate the boys from the girls just like it did successfully in Chromosome. . Just like the aim assist debate has been doing between controller users..
bolsh lee Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 639	Posted - 2013.11.08 17:03:00 - [7] - Quote Bendtner92 wrote: SteelDark Knight wrote: Sadly, the attempt to find balance between KB/M and DS3 has caused nothing but frustrations for the player base on the whole. Each side complains of competitive balance issues and every time CCP tries to find a way to create this balance or improvements one side is extremely disenfranchised. This is why the majority of developers will not even attempt it. Ultimately, I donGÇÖt see any scenario were balance is achieved and everyone is going to be pleased (or even a majority). I canGÇÖt help but wonder what amount of players this whole fiasco has cost CCP. Where Dust went Wrong. Yeah, Dust shouldn't have had m/kb support in the first place imo. Of course it can't be removed now because around half the playerbase is likely EVE players and using m/kb. So much for wanting to attract a new audience and then half of a tiny playerbase is EVE players... Please show me the statistics were "half the player base is using a kb/m" if this was the case wouldn't you think we would have a lot more threads like these. . ?
Rei Shepard Spectre II 848	Posted - 2013.11.08 17:04:00 - [8] - Quote Bendtner92 wrote: SteelDark Knight wrote: Sadly, the attempt to find balance between KB/M and DS3 has caused nothing but frustrations for the player base on the whole. Each side complains of competitive balance issues and every time CCP tries to find a way to create this balance or improvements one side is extremely disenfranchised. This is why the majority of developers will not even attempt it. Ultimately, I donGÇÖt see any scenario were balance is achieved and everyone is going to be pleased (or even a majority). I canGÇÖt help but wonder what amount of players this whole fiasco has cost CCP. Where Dust went Wrong. Yeah, Dust shouldn't have had m/kb support in the first place imo. Of course it can't be removed now because around half the playerbase is likely EVE players and using m/kb. So much for wanting to attract a new audience and then half of a tiny playerbase is EVE players... If dust had not advertised they would put in native KBM support i would not have bothered to buy 2 PS3's and a 300 euro Astro A50 Headset, Widow Razor KB and all the packs, i would have stayed in APB R. (i would also not be playing my 4 eve accounts right now either) But yeah, i still cling to KBM, but since 1.6 i am getting creamed by people who in other shooters would not touch me on PC, and i am still waiting on KBM support where i can bind keys, so it lets me throw a grenade). Winner of the EU Squad Cup "Go Go Power Rangers!"
SteelDark Knight 139	Posted - 2013.11.08 17:33:00 - [9] - Quote Please keep in mind I'm not advocating for any side of the argument. Getting in to an argument on KB/M vs. DS3 is generally like trying to argue Religion. Simply put youGÇÖre not going to get either side to agree with the other no matter what is said. That is the heart of the issue in itself. No matter what you do the other side of whatever perceived improvement is going to be unhappy. Add a strong aim assist and the KB/M players complain. Add raw input, etc., and the argument will switch the other way and DS3 players will complain. As I stated I donGÇÖt see a scenario were either side is going to be happy and ultimately the whole thing hurts more than it has helped. Chromosome may have been better for balance but I just did a search on key terms GÇ£KB/MGÇ¥, GÇ£MouseGÇ¥, and GÇ£DS3GÇ¥ and scrolled back to that time period and trust me there were plenty of complaints on the issue. Again, not going to argue if it was right or wrong but they were complaints none the less.
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc. 1346	Posted - 2013.11.08 17:34:00 - [10] - Quote I'm better with k/b mouse and I can safely say if we got raw input I'd switch and very quickly become one of the best in the game, like literally top 50 and im not boasting im jyst saying it how it is as would everyone else who excels with k/b and mouse. CCP should have never put it in the game, if it worked the way we'd like the ds3 would be laughable even with aim assist, Im not going into details of what the advantages would be as anyone who is better with k/b and mouse already knows. The problem is that ccp should never have put it in the game as its not fair on those who came into dust because they could excel with it and then hand them some joke emulator, its not that bad but its also just not good enough and I don't believe theres anyway to make it work. It would be too sluggish if it had the input of a ds3, too good with raw input and under performs at the mo vs aim assist, this dead horse has been fked for too long, just remove it and stop taking dusts k/b and mouse users on a long drawn out ride on false hope and put them out of their misery. Truth hurts, that was also painful to type, sorry guys but this issue which I believe is basically impossible to fix has gone on for ages, maybe I'm being too brash with saying it should just be removed but I can't see any realistic fix, if anyone can actually explain how it could be fixed then I'd like to know and I'll support it provided its reasonable and not some nub with an ulterior motive trying to say raw input wouldnt be op. Level 1 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. Fix PC lag please CCP.

TechMechMeds Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc. 1346	Posted - 2013.11.08 17:35:00 - [11] - Quote SteelDark Knight wrote: Please keep in mind I'm not advocating for any side of the argument. Getting in to an argument on KB/M vs. DS3 is generally like trying to argue Religion. Simply put youGÇÖre not going to get either side to agree with the other no matter what is said. That is the heart of the issue in itself. No matter what you do the other side of whatever perceived improvement is going to be unhappy. Add a strong aim assist and the KB/M players complain. Add raw input, etc., and the argument will switch the other way and DS3 players will complain. As I stated I donGÇÖt see a scenario were either side is going to be happy and ultimately the whole thing hurts more than it has helped. Chromosome may have been better for balance but I just did a search on key terms GÇ£KB/MGÇ¥, GÇ£MouseGÇ¥, and GÇ£DS3GÇ¥ and scrolled back to that time period and trust me there were plenty of complaints on the issue. Again, not going to argue if it was right or wrong but they were complaints none the less. This as well. Level 1 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. Fix PC lag please CCP.
Rei Shepard Spectre II 851	Posted - 2013.11.08 17:53:00 - [12] - Quote TechMechMeds wrote: I'm better with k/b mouse and I can safely say if we got raw input I'd switch and very quickly become one of the best in the game, like literally top 50 and im not boasting im jyst saying it how it is as would everyone else who excels with k/b and mouse. CCP should have never put it in the game, if it worked the way we'd like the ds3 would be laughable even with aim assist, Im not going into details of what the advantages would be as anyone who is better with k/b and mouse already knows. The problem is that ccp should never have put it in the game as its not fair on those who came into dust because they could excel with it and then hand them some joke emulator, its not that bad but its also just not good enough and I don't believe theres anyway to make it work. It would be too sluggish if it had the input of a ds3, too good with raw input and under performs at the mo vs aim assist, this dead horse has been fked for too long, just remove it and stop taking dusts k/b and mouse users on a long drawn out ride on false hope and put them out of their misery. Truth hurts, that was also painful to type, sorry guys but this issue which I believe is basically impossible to fix has gone on for ages, maybe I'm being too brash with saying it should just be removed but I can't see any realistic fix, if anyone can actually explain how it could be fixed then I'd like to know and I'll support it provided its reasonable and not some nub with an ulterior motive trying to say raw input wouldnt be op. So your saying, just because DS3 is better right now, you are not using a KBM ? Like we should believe that crap, you are either a KBM player and take pride in your skill with it and keep using it or your not very good with it and just swap between the 2, witchever gives you the most advantage. Winner of the EU Squad Cup "Go Go Power Rangers!"
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc. 1349	Posted - 2013.11.08 17:58:00 - [13] - Quote Rei Shepard wrote: TechMechMeds wrote: I'm better with k/b mouse and I can safely say if we got raw input I'd switch and very quickly become one of the best in the game, like literally top 50 and im not boasting im jyst saying it how it is as would everyone else who excels with k/b and mouse. CCP should have never put it in the game, if it worked the way we'd like the ds3 would be laughable even with aim assist, Im not going into details of what the advantages would be as anyone who is better with k/b and mouse already knows. The problem is that ccp should never have put it in the game as its not fair on those who came into dust because they could excel with it and then hand them some joke emulator, its not that bad but its also just not good enough and I don't believe theres anyway to make it work. It would be too sluggish if it had the input of a ds3, too good with raw input and under performs at the mo vs aim assist, this dead horse has been fked for too long, just remove it and stop taking dusts k/b and mouse users on a long drawn out ride on false hope and put them out of their misery. Truth hurts, that was also painful to type, sorry guys but this issue which I believe is basically impossible to fix has gone on for ages, maybe I'm being too brash with saying it should just be removed but I can't see any realistic fix, if anyone can actually explain how it could be fixed then I'd like to know and I'll support it provided its reasonable and not some nub with an ulterior motive trying to say raw input wouldnt be op. So your saying, just because DS3 is better right now, you are not using a KBM ? Like we should believe that crap, you are either a KBM player and take pride in your skill with it and keep using it or your not very good with it and just swap between the 2, witchever gives you the most advantage. Lol, I was completely reasonable and just saying it how it is, assumptions are the sign of a small mind. I'm shocked you of all people can't handle a completely reasonable post like that. Level 1 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. Fix PC lag please CCP.
Rei Shepard Spectre II 851	Posted - 2013.11.08 18:05:00 - [14] - Quote TechMechMeds wrote: Rei Shepard wrote: TechMechMeds wrote: I'm better with k/b mouse and I can safely say if we got raw input I'd switch and very quickly become one of the best in the game, like literally top 50 and im not boasting im jyst saying it how it is as would everyone else who excels with k/b and mouse. CCP should have never put it in the game, if it worked the way we'd like the ds3 would be laughable even with aim assist, Im not going into details of what the advantages would be as anyone who is better with k/b and mouse already knows. The problem is that ccp should never have put it in the game as its not fair on those who came into dust because they could excel with it and then hand them some joke emulator, its not that bad but its also just not good enough and I don't believe theres anyway to make it work. It would be too sluggish if it had the input of a ds3, too good with raw input and under performs at the mo vs aim assist, this dead horse has been fked for too long, just remove it and stop taking dusts k/b and mouse users on a long drawn out ride on false hope and put them out of their misery. Truth hurts, that was also painful to type, sorry guys but this issue which I believe is basically impossible to fix has gone on for ages, maybe I'm being too brash with saying it should just be removed but I can't see any realistic fix, if anyone can actually explain how it could be fixed then I'd like to know and I'll support it provided its reasonable and not some nub with an ulterior motive trying to say raw input wouldnt be op. So your saying, just because DS3 is better right now, you are not using a KBM ? Like we should believe that crap, you are either a KBM player and take pride in your skill with it and keep using it or your not very good with it and just swap between the 2, witchever gives you the most advantage. Lol, I was completely reasonable and just saying it how it is, assumptions are the sign of a small mind. I'm shocked you of all people can't handle a completely reasonable post like that. I only replied to the first section, not to the rest, i stopped reading when i read Good KBM users swaps to DS3, i mean like yeah ...right... Winner of the EU Squad Cup "Go Go Power Rangers!"
Eskel Bondfree DUST University Ivy League 158	Posted - 2013.11.08 18:08:00 - [15] - Quote Only problem I have with the mouse is the horrible performance this game has for me most of the time. Raw input or not, mouse aiming will always feel horrible if the game is running with 20 frames or less.
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc. 1349	Posted - 2013.11.08 18:11:00 - [16] - Quote Rei Shepard wrote: TechMechMeds wrote: Rei Shepard wrote: TechMechMeds wrote: I'm better with k/b mouse and I can safely say if we got raw input I'd switch and very quickly become one of the best in the game, like literally top 50 and im not boasting im jyst saying it how it is as would everyone else who excels with k/b and mouse. CCP should have never put it in the game, if it worked the way we'd like the ds3 would be laughable even with aim assist, Im not going into details of what the advantages would be as anyone who is better with k/b and mouse already knows. The problem is that ccp should never have put it in the game as its not fair on those who came into dust because they could excel with it and then hand them some joke emulator, its not that bad but its also just not good enough and I don't believe theres anyway to make it work. It would be too sluggish if it had the input of a ds3, too good with raw input and under performs at the mo vs aim assist, this dead horse has been fked for too long, just remove it and stop taking dusts k/b and mouse users on a long drawn out ride on false hope and put them out of their misery. Truth hurts, that was also painful to type, sorry guys but this issue which I believe is basically impossible to fix has gone on for ages, maybe I'm being too brash with saying it should just be removed but I can't see any realistic fix, if anyone can actually explain how it could be fixed then I'd like to know and I'll support it provided its reasonable and not some nub with an ulterior motive trying to say raw input wouldnt be op. So your saying, just because DS3 is better right now, you are not using a KBM ? Like we should believe that crap, you are either a KBM player and take pride in your skill with it and keep using it or your not very good with it and just swap between the 2, witchever gives you the most advantage. Lol, I was completely reasonable and just saying it how it is, assumptions are the sign of a small mind. I'm shocked you of all people can't handle a completely reasonable post like that. I only replied to the first section, not to the rest, i stopped reading when i read Good KBM users swaps to DS3, i mean like yeah ...right... So you base your opinion on a small part of the post which you took the wrong way and decided not to read the rest, ok then. You should read it all. Level 1 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. Fix PC lag please CCP.
Paran Tadec Ancient Exiles 1620	Posted - 2013.11.08 18:31:00 - [17] - Quote Bendtner92 wrote: SteelDark Knight wrote: Sadly, the attempt to find balance between KB/M and DS3 has caused nothing but frustrations for the player base on the whole. Each side complains of competitive balance issues and every time CCP tries to find a way to create this balance or improvements one side is extremely disenfranchised. This is why the majority of developers will not even attempt it. Ultimately, I donGÇÖt see any scenario were balance is achieved and everyone is going to be pleased (or even a majority). I canGÇÖt help but wonder what amount of players this whole fiasco has cost CCP. Where Dust went Wrong. Yeah, Dust shouldn't have had m/kb support in the first place imo. Of course it can't be removed now because around half the playerbase is likely EVE players and using m/kb. So much for wanting to attract a new audience and then half of a tiny playerbase is EVE players... Should have been on PC to begin with, CCP could push out updates and tweaks whenever they wanted to. Bittervet Proficiency V thanks logibro!
bolsh lee Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 645	Posted - 2013.11.08 18:49:00 - [18] - Quote 1: Rawinput wasn't OP in Chromosome.. Even if it wasn't raw input, im almost positive it was becuase in chromosome I was surgical with the AR like I am in most PC shooters.. 2: I'm a veteran kb/m user have used kb/m in old school SoF, Doom, CS, won many tournaments and lans in vanila COD before it went gay.. Guess what, unless I'm using the MD I'm using the controller.. Why you ask, if I'm a self proclaimed kb/m vet? Well it's simple, what we have right now is not kb/m its a floating emulation in a pool of **** that makes fine movements and strafe accuracy completely erratic compared to the DS3 and aim assist.. So yep, I'm using the controller because the kb/m is that screwed up my competitive nature won't allow me to be handicapped.. So I switch to what works, once CCP actually fixes the kb/m ill use it but intill then I'm only improving my skills with the controller and this gives me less reasons to return to Dust once the PS4 drops.. I love CCP and Dust, and being an EVE player for 5yrs I don't want to hang it up but I only came over becuase of kb/m support, I stuck around for the past 5 months of CCP demolishing the kb/m becuase of RND and the community and of course like any bitter vet hanging on to the slim hope that CCP will turn this game into something great..
Panoscape BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder. 152	Posted - 2013.11.08 19:02:00 - [19] - Quote Use what works for the situation. Mouse for sniping, DS3 for runnin' & gunnin' and combo for tankin'. Since I've added the mouse, my sniping KDR has doubled.
Xocoyol Zaraoul Superior Genetics 1377	Posted - 2013.11.08 19:04:00 - [20] - Quote Reading these forums I never know if KB/M or DS3 is considered OP... Closed Beta Vet Reading the forums detracts from overall enjoyment of the game

DTOracle The Surrogates Of War 141	Posted - 2013.11.08 19:24:00 - [21] - Quote I have to agree. The 20 sensitivity setting on mouse has been broken through numerous updates. Why something so minor has been overlooked for this long is beyond me. I can understand DS3 being prioritized over KB/M, so I have been willing to wait for things such as custom keybinding, & etc... But mouse sensitivity is fundamental & it would appear CCP has spent very little time addressing it. Mouse support is why I favor Dust514 over all other console FPS's & why I purchased a gaming mouse over upgrading my Aimon PS to a newer model. If CCP does not address this I will likely be getting XIM or whatever. But I refuse to use a DS3 for FPS' consoles be damned.
M McManus Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 239	Posted - 2013.11.08 19:55:00 - [22] - Quote Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote: Reading these forums I never know if KB/M or DS3 is considered OP... DS3 right now if the mouse was back to Chromosome lvl you would only have your few rattlers saying the kb/m is OP but it really depends on skill and personal choice..
Sigberct Amni Goonfeet Top Men. 171	Posted - 2013.11.08 20:04:00 - [23] - Quote I play with a fairly large share of KBM users in my corp and there's a majority consensus that it's working fine. Sure, I'd love things like bindable keys and what not but the basic functionality is great. It's been through some rough patches with them trying various mouse deceleration things and other junk. I think it feels smoother than ever.
8213 Grade No.2 576	Posted - 2013.11.08 20:18:00 - [24] - Quote The advantage that KB&M has to DS3 is a long list that I'm not going to post here. BUT, in a game like DUST 514, I can see how KB&M is worse than controller, because the frame rate drops (My capture card actual tells me that DUST runs at a max of 15fps, and averages 5fps) and the latency off Port 80. KB&M always worked so well on PC, because PC was always smoother, they were the first games to have 60fps, etc. So, in DUST 514... I can see how KB&M is garbage. Trying to pinpoint a long distance shot is hard when your sight skips across the screen instead of just having aim assist pull you in. I used only KB&M in Beta(because I'm a PC Vet) and found it better than DS3, but the game runs a lot sh*ttier now than then. Although, I can think of a few top players in this game that use KB&M. But either way, KB&M get no sympathy from me. Its like Barry Bonds complaining that he can't use his steroids anymore...
Rowdy Railgunner Xer Cloud Consortium 100	Posted - 2013.11.08 20:24:00 - [25] - Quote I find that the 360 controller is far better for DUST than the DS3.
KEROSIINI-TERO The Rainbow Effect 796	Posted - 2013.11.08 21:35:00 - [26] - Quote Meeko Fent wrote: Welcome to DUST 514, a CONSOLE game. Feel free to use CONSOLE tools to play. Welcome to the 21st century where consoles enjoy the multitude of HIDs (human interface devices). Not just the grey 8-bit boxy control thingy.
Paran Tadec Ancient Exiles 1622	Posted - 2013.11.08 21:47:00 - [27] - Quote bolsh lee wrote: 1: Rawinput wasn't OP in Chromosome.. Even if it wasn't raw input, im almost positive it was becuase in chromosome I was surgical with the AR like I am in most PC shooters.. 2: I'm a veteran kb/m user have used kb/m in old school SoF, Doom, CS, won many tournaments and lans in vanila COD before it went gay.. Guess what, unless I'm using the MD I'm using the controller.. Why you ask, if I'm a self proclaimed kb/m vet? Well it's simple, what we have right now is not kb/m its a floating emulation in a pool of **** that makes fine movements and strafe accuracy completely erratic compared to the DS3 and aim assist.. So yep, I'm using the controller because the kb/m is that screwed up my competitive nature won't allow me to be handicapped.. So I switch to what works, once CCP actually fixes the kb/m ill use it but intill then I'm only improving my skills with the controller and this gives me less reasons to return to Dust once the PS4 drops.. I love CCP and Dust, and being an EVE player for 5yrs I don't want to hang it up but I only came over becuase of kb/m support, I stuck around for the past 5 months of CCP demolishing the kb/m becuase of RND and the community and of course like any bitter vet hanging on to the slim hope that CCP will turn this game into something great.. This. Bittervet Proficiency V thanks logibro!


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