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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Kinsho Swords Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.11.08 15:07:00 -
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I was playing a game where I had , give or take , 545 HP's and I was one shot , one killed with a shot gun . That is ridiculous , even with a damage mod and specks into shotguns , NO ONE should be one shot , one killed I mean , was it a Forge Shotgun ??? It was a scout and it was a series suit so it only has two high slots but they had extra shield and THAT'S JUST RIDICULOUS !!!!!!
The next update needs to be one that takes care of some of the balancing issues and the matchmaking system as well . I along with COUNTLESS others would like to play games that are just not SO ONE SIDED and have a little more diversity in the matches , meaning it would be nice to not face corporations every time I'm placed in a match and sometimes it's two , I mean " COME ON " out of sixteen players are you telling me that YOU CAN'T divide up a corporation when creating matches ...???... and not create a multiple corporations versus a mixture of players . If you can't do it my skill and war points accumulated , at least give that much a consideration to the people that's participating and show some gamesmanship . WE GET TIRED and REALLY I'M TIRED of seeing these threads about proto stomping but even more so the corporation stomping is JUST AS BAD !!!!!
The ONLY handheld weapons that should one shot , one kill are as followed : 1 # FORGE GUN & 2 # PLASMA CANNON and THAT'S IT !!!!!!! Scramblers are ridiculous so are shotguns and lasers . Most heavy weapons should be powerful but a shotgun or scrambler and lasers , being stronger ( i.e. stopping and knockout power ) than a HMG , needs to just stop !!!!! It's a HEAVY WEAPON for goodness sakes . I know some of you will start to talk about physics in speaking of plasma and lasers in speaking about scramblers and lasers but how many things that are involved in this game besides gravity has ANYTHING to do with physics , if it did " tanks " ( Gunnlogi's ) would get more " love " than they do .
Your shield have NO strength and because it's something that regenerates is just an excuse to NOT give then strength . Gunnlogi's are HORRIBLE and that's why you see SO many people using Madrugars . I will elaborate later .
" Doubts are like flies and should be crushed !!!!!! " I hope that I am THE FLY SWATTER of those in my presence .
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XANDER KAG
Red Star. EoN.
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Posted - 2013.11.08 15:27:00 -
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Depends on the shotgun lvl, how far he was from you, damage mods, proficiency, and head shots multiplier. Also if most of your health was shields he/she has a 10% damage bonus to that.
However, protostomping does need to be solved.
Who says you can't kill in style?
Fear the tribes.
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
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Posted - 2013.11.08 15:34:00 -
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Shotguns have insanely low range, damage starts decreasing by percentages after just 4 meters, and there is also the spread which further diminishes the range. If it can't one-hit kill in its optimal range, then its worthless. If you get killed by a shotgunner, you deserve it for letting them get close. You can even beat a shotgunner by moving around to make it hard to keep their aim on you, and quickly and skillfully landing your shots on them.
The scrambler rifle lets you fire around 15 quick shots before overheating; when it overheats you can't shoot, run, or switch weapons (potentially a death sentence). Charge shots have a huge heat toll, so if you miss there is the penalty of being only able to fire 4 more regular shots before overheating, and the time wasted on the charge; yes there is high reward, but also high risk. Charge shots can one-hit kill, but in the time it takes to kill you, an AR could have killed you with continuous fire (standard AR does like 420+ damage in just 1 second). This weapon requires skill.
Uneven battles are a problem, but the stuff you say is just wrong.
Its also not only rude, but just plain incorrect to say CCP is procrastinating; they're adding 2 new rifle as well as rebalancing the current ones, completely revamping faction warfare, completely revamping vehicles, adding more outposts like the Caldari Production Facility and Minmatar Cargo Hub, working on new racial variants like new heavy and light dropsuits, and even more. I may not like a lot of the things they do, or many things about the game, but saying they're procastinating is just stupid.
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Kinsho Swords Caldari State
65
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Posted - 2013.11.08 15:41:00 -
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XANDER KAG wrote:Depends on the shotgun lvl, how far he was from you, damage mods, proficiency, and head shots multiplier. Also if most of your health was shields he/she has a 10% damage bonus to that.
However, protostomping does need to be solved.
It happened like this ... I came up some stairs and turned and there they were and BOOM , game over !!!!! No head shot just massacre . I guess that was the problem huh , distance ???? But I have noticed that only if your not FAR AWAY then you will get damaged , so I guess it was me but I just can not believe it . I use shotguns with damage mods ( advanced ) and they don't hit like that .
" Doubts are like flies and should be crushed !!!!!! " I hope that I am THE FLY SWATTER of those in my presence .
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Kinsho Swords Caldari State
65
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Posted - 2013.11.08 15:45:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:Shotguns have insanely low range, damage starts decreasing by percentages after just 4 meters, and there is also the spread which further diminishes the range. If it can't one-hit kill in its optimal range, then its worthless. If you get killed by a shotgunner, you deserve it for letting them get close. You can even beat a shotgunner by moving around to make it hard to keep their aim on you, and quickly and skillfully landing your shots on them. The scrambler rifle lets you fire around 15 quick shots before overheating; when it overheats you can't shoot, run, or switch weapons (potentially a death sentence). Charge shots have a huge heat toll, so if you miss there is the penalty of being only able to fire 4 more regular shots before overheating, and the time wasted on the charge; yes there is high reward, but also high risk. Charge shots can one-hit kill, but in the time it takes to kill you, an AR could have killed you with continuous fire (standard AR does like 420+ damage in just 1 second). This weapon requires skill. Uneven battles are a problem, but the stuff you say is just wrong. Its also not only rude, but just plain incorrect to say CCP is procrastinating; they're adding 2 new rifle as well as rebalancing the current ones, completely revamping faction warfare, completely revamping vehicles, adding more outposts like the Caldari Production Facility and Minmatar Cargo Hub, working on new racial variants like new heavy and light dropsuits, and even more. I may not like a lot of the things they do, or many things about the game, but saying they're procastinating is just stupid.
You are right , I APOLOGIZE for my RUDENESS CCP . Thank you for the awakening KAGEHOSHI . I don't see too many people missing when using scramblers , unless they are a terrible shot . I use them and they are a can't miss weapon . But you are right and I apologize . Thank you .
" Doubts are like flies and should be crushed !!!!!! " I hope that I am THE FLY SWATTER of those in my presence .
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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
4996
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Posted - 2013.11.08 16:27:00 -
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: The ONLY handheld weapons that should one shot , one kill are as followed : 1 # FORGE GUN & 2 # PLASMA CANNON and THAT'S IT !!!!!!!
Us Nova Knife ninjas from the Scouts United channel would like to have a word with you.
CCP, please fix the Nova Knives. Thank you.
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Melchiah ARANeAE
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
249
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Posted - 2013.11.08 16:48:00 -
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No. Just no.
'Insert witty signature here'
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MCEINSTEIN08
ADAMANTIUM CORE
56
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Posted - 2013.11.08 16:55:00 -
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Agree with balancing battles. Most of the time I end up loosing with all objectives taken buy the opposition. And when the game ends, the opposite MCC Mobile comment center still has half the shield and all the armor.
When I don't loose, we end-up by crushing the opposition.
Where are those well balance battle from 1.3/1.4.... where one game both MCC finished with a couple of bars left in the armor.
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Galvan Nized
Deep Space Republic Top Men.
247
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Posted - 2013.11.08 16:59:00 -
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Cmon shotguns have nothing besides the ability to OHK at it's optimal.
ROF is so slow they cannot get a second shot before an AR mows them down.
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Kinsho Swords Caldari State
66
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Posted - 2013.11.10 01:04:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: The ONLY handheld weapons that should one shot , one kill are as followed : 1 # FORGE GUN & 2 # PLASMA CANNON and THAT'S IT !!!!!!!
Us Nova Knife ninjas from the Scouts United channel would like to have a word with you.
Yeah ... I know those DAM Nova Knives are nothing to sneeze at . I've been carved up several times so I know . You guys are dangerous and don't get the respect that you should .
" Doubts are like flies and should be crushed !!!!!! " I hope that I am THE FLY SWATTER of those in my presence .
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Kinsho Swords Caldari State
66
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Posted - 2013.11.10 01:07:00 -
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Galvan Nized wrote:Cmon shotguns have nothing besides the ability to OHK at it's optimal.
ROF is so slow they cannot get a second shot before an AR mows them down.
Some of those guys that wield them are NO JOKE and to me they are specialized killers . Some of them .... YOU CAN'T get an AR on them because their just good at what they do . Some of them are TOO DAM GOOD .
" Doubts are like flies and should be crushed !!!!!! " I hope that I am THE FLY SWATTER of those in my presence .
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Kinsho Swords Caldari State
66
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Posted - 2013.11.10 01:12:00 -
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MCEINSTEIN08 wrote:Agree with balancing battles. Most of the time I end up loosing with all objectives taken buy the opposition. And when the game ends, the opposite MCC Mobile comment center still has half the shield and all the armor.
When I don't loose, we end-up by crushing the opposition.
Where are those well balance battle from 1.3/1.4.... where one game both MCC finished with a couple of bars left in the armor.
Those were the good old battles.
That's what I mean . Worded perfect . But I don't know about how it was in the past , but right now ... it's just too one sided and is becoming boring . I believe that's taking some of the fun out of the game and also it's strategic factor as well , because there's no strategy in one sided matches .
" Doubts are like flies and should be crushed !!!!!! " I hope that I am THE FLY SWATTER of those in my presence .
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Cosgar
ParagonX
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Posted - 2013.11.10 01:57:00 -
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Sounds like a head shot. But if you let a shot gunner get that close, it's on you.
I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Kinsho Swords Caldari State
66
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Posted - 2013.11.10 02:09:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:Sounds like a head shot. But if you let a shot gunner get that close, it's on you.
Yeah . I'm learning . I never had that happen before and it kinda ticked me off . But I'm over it now . Live and learn but the way they are being used is making me wanna speck into them now .
But I have to start on my HMG's when I get my Play Station back because I have to send it off . It's giving me problems and my guarantee is almost up so I won't be seeing you guys for a while but I will be keeping up on the forums .
Have you guys gotten your free three day active boosters ??? This month has been GREAT !!!!!
" Doubts are like flies and should be crushed !!!!!! " I hope that I am THE FLY SWATTER of those in my presence .
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low genius
The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance
847
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Posted - 2013.11.10 03:29:00 -
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tl;dr
maybe do some research before you write a wall of text. the title is silly at least. |
Jaysyn Larrisen
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
236
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Posted - 2013.11.10 03:30:00 -
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:Cosgar wrote:Sounds like a head shot. But if you let a shot gunner get that close, it's on you. Yeah . I'm learning . I never had that happen before and it kinda ticked me off . But I'm over it now . Live and learn but the way they are being used is making me wanna speck into them now . But I have to start on my HMG's when I get my Play Station back because I have to send it off . It's giving me problems and my guarantee is almost up so I won't be seeing you guys for a while but I will be keeping up on the forums . Have you guys gotten your free three day active boosters ??? This month has been GREAT !!!!!
I think I just watched you got through the full emotional cycle of rage, injustice, depression, bargaining, and finally acceptance in this thread. |
Godin Thekiller
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
1468
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Posted - 2013.11.10 05:01:00 -
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Was it a breach?
'lights cigar' fuck with me, and I'll melt your face off. Gallente forever!
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Talos Vagheitan
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Posted - 2013.11.10 07:15:00 -
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I don't understand what getting killed by a shotgun at close range is worth forum-raging about... What do you think the shotgun is for?
Who cares what some sniper has to say
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Kinsho Swords Caldari State
66
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Posted - 2013.11.10 14:08:00 -
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Jaysyn Larrisen wrote:Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:Cosgar wrote:Sounds like a head shot. But if you let a shot gunner get that close, it's on you. Yeah . I'm learning . I never had that happen before and it kinda ticked me off . But I'm over it now . Live and learn but the way they are being used is making me wanna speck into them now . But I have to start on my HMG's when I get my Play Station back because I have to send it off . It's giving me problems and my guarantee is almost up so I won't be seeing you guys for a while but I will be keeping up on the forums . Have you guys gotten your free three day active boosters ??? This month has been GREAT !!!!! I think I just watched you go through the full emotional cycle of rage, injustice, depression, bargaining, and finally acceptance in this thread.
Yeah you did .
" Doubts are like flies and should be crushed !!!!!! " I hope that I am THE FLY SWATTER of those in my presence .
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Kinsho Swords Caldari State
66
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Posted - 2013.11.10 14:17:00 -
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Talos Vagheitan wrote:I don't understand what getting killed by a shotgun at close range is worth forum-raging about... What do you think the shotgun is for?
It's just the way it happened . It wasn't a head shot ( at least I don't think so because I can't hear the ding ) and it was just devastating . It doesn't matter if your close or not , you can be in the range and it still takes off a lot of HP's and yeah it's a shotgun but they just seem TOO powerful . I guess that I was just upset at the fact that when I use my shotgun , I don't have halfway the effectiveness that I see displayed on myself . I'm just wondering , what I need to do to get good at the use of that weapon ???
I was just raging and maybe I shouldn't have created a post . I thought that I could get some advice on how to get better . Yeah I know about skilling into the weapon but I would like to also become effective in it's use , not only for offence but defense as well .
" Doubts are like flies and should be crushed !!!!!! " I hope that I am THE FLY SWATTER of those in my presence .
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